Its absolutely nothing like borderlands, but whatever.
Dude, the set dressing might not be much like Borderlands, but it's a class based, coop loot shooter. Let's not pretend that there's much difference made by the quest structure.
Its absolutely nothing like borderlands, but whatever.
They are nothing alike. Borderlands doesn't have PvP, raids. They play and are nothing alike. By your logic mass effect or any game with looy it is the same.Dude, the set dressing might not be much like Borderlands, but it's a class based, coop loot shooter. Let's not pretend that there's much difference made by the quest structure.
Sure, committed veterans will have higher digital uptake. Problem is vets are a minority when it comes to the overall success of a game. The broader market are voting with their wallets - after experiencing Destiny 1, they're ambivalent about the sequel. "The DLC redeemed it" narrative only works for the people who stuck around.I would like to see the digital sales numbers. A lot of the veterans went digital.
"no digital data" Wtf then this is meaningless
They are nothing alike. Borderlands doesn't have PvP, raids. They play and are nothing alike. By your logic mass effect or any game with looy it is the same.
"no digital data" Wtf then this is meaningless
end, most of my friends list bought digital
Sure, committed veterans will have higher digital uptake. Problem is vets are a minority when it comes to the overall success of a game. The broader market are voting with their wallets - after experiencing Destiny 1, they're ambivalent about the sequel. "The DLC redeemed it" narrative only works for the people who stuck around.
Sometimes you don't get a second chance to make a first impression. A lot of people left vanilla Destiny salty as fuck. Assume those people will be late adopters of the game if they ever come on board this time around.58% drop is staggeringly big.
This man understands.Sure, committed veterans will have higher digital uptake. Problem is vets are a minority when it comes to the overall success of a game. The broader market are voting with their wallets - after experiencing Destiny 1, they're ambivalent about the sequel. "The DLC redeemed it" narrative only works for the people who stuck around.
It's amazing lol. It's like digital didn't exist when D1 came out. Oh and "all my friends bought it digital" lolRetail sales numbers are now meaningless, aha.
Retail sales numbers are now meaningless, aha.
Retail sales numbers are now meaningless, aha.
They are nothing alike.
leeh knew what was up years ago
LmaoReading this thread you'd think digital sales were invented between the release of Destiny 1 and 2.
Hope ya'll are ready for some calculations:
Digital Sales @25%
Sales = 175,000 * 1.25 = 218750
New Percentage Change = ((218750 - 417,000) / 417,000) * 100 = -47%
Digital Sales @50%
Sales = 175,000 * 1.5 = 262500
New Percentage Change = ((262,500 - 417,000) / 417,000) * 100 = -37%
Digital Sales @75%
Sales = 175,000 * 1.75 = 306250
New Percentage Change = ((306250 - 417,000) / 417,000) * 100 = -27%
Digital sales @50% excluding PS3 and 360 sales from D1
Sales = 175,000 * 1.5 = 262500
New Percentage Change = ((262,500 - 342,000) / 342,000) * 100 = -23%
So, after that thorough scientific analysis, the performance is still not great. Despite it being an anomaly due to the nature of what it is, I can't see Destiny 2's digital sales being more than 50% of its physical sales, especially here in the UK. As for the PS3 and 360 versions, I'd wager most of those people have moved on to PS4 or X1 so excluding them entirely is quite a large leap in logic.
Still doing quite well, especially with the PC version coming up which should bridge that gap a little. I wouldn't call it doom for the franchise, nor would I call it an amazing performance considering its peers in the "sequel to massive shooter" category (MW2, Halo 2, etc).
EDIT: Added the 75% category just to flesh things out a bit more. Bit redundant that each 25% increase in digital sales directly translates to a 10% increase in the percentage change.
EDIT 2: I just realised that D1 is still only physical sales. Without that data at hand it's hard to really get any concrete assumptions about this; but if I were to 'guesstimate' I'd put the 'actual' actual percentage decrease at near 50%.
your calculation is wrong!
25% digital = 233.33k (down 64%)
35% digital = 269.23k (down 35,5%
45% digital = 313.18k (down 24.9%)
55% digital = 388.89k (down 6,7%)
all numbers are against Destiny 1 Physical only assuming a 0% percent digital share.
with a 15% digital ratio for the first game, Destiny 2 would've been basically flat at a 65% digital ratio (2% or just 10k units)
People probably learnt the lesson that you should wait for all the content to be in the game before buying the game.
Well to a degree, it's not counting digital and lots of people are waiting for the PC version.Sometimes you don't get a second chance to make a first impression. A lot of people left vanilla Destiny salty as fuck. Assume those people will be late adopters of the game if they ever come on board this time around.
This man understands.
Huh? How is an increase in sales leading an increase in the negative difference between D1 and D2's sales? Come on, man, if you're gonna say my calculations are wrong you gotta show your own. I'm highly confused.
end, most of my friends list bought digital
at a 25% digital share that 175k retail units would be 75% of total
at a 55% digital share that 175k retail units would be 45% of total
etc...
percentage calculation 1*1
Well to a degree, it's not counting digital and lots of people are waiting for the PC version.
that percentage decrease for 25% digital was a typing error its 44% not 64%I was going on a flat increase in sales based on a percentage of physical. So when I say "50% Digital" I just meant 50% of 175k added onto that initial number. I'd still like to see your calculations as I honestly have no clue where you got some of your numbers, especially that percentage decrease for 25% digital.
Ps4 Pro and Ps4 Slim Destiny Bundles are included in the UKDo all these maths include the PS4 Pro D2 bundle or isn't that tracked?
I'm buying that bundle next week though I don't really want the game, but point being that the bundle might have sold well.
Do all these maths include the PS4 Pro D2 bundle or isn't that tracked?
I'm buying that bundle next week though I don't really want the game, but point being that the bundle might have sold well.
that percentage decrease for 25% digital was a typing error its 44% not 64%
and already corrected
when you just add a flat 25% digital increase to 175k physical as your 100% base, you get a digital share of 19.7%. that is not 25%
and your "75% digital" is just 42.8% in reality
if you're not talking about the share of the total sales, your post does not make senseAfter re-reading my own post it's pretty clear I wasn't talking about the share of the total sales:
"I can't see Destiny 2's digital sales being more than 50% of its physical sales"
They're not wrong at all in that context.
digital sales @25% of a total of 125% is your math sayingDigital Sales @XX%
50% of 175K is 87.5K.After re-reading my own post it's pretty clear I wasn't talking about the share of the total sales:
"I can't see Destiny 2's digital sales being more than 50% of its physical sales"
They're not wrong at all in that context. The method of analysis may be a bit flimsy, but the calculations themselves are fine.
What does that have to do with a sales dip in one country? Nobody is suggesting the same thing is happening in North America.Well those people should head over to the 145 page thread full of praise and then get their wallets out.
end, most of my friends list bought digital
Spoiler: there are actual good games to play now, so we don't have to slum it with a dressed up skinner box like we did in 2014.
Destiny is just not that fun for the same reason that Diablo and Borderlands aren't fun; artificial reward loops that incentivise repetition are borderline morally repugnant to me because they rely on the same shitty psychological tricks that keep people hitting the plunger on the slot machine.
I too learned my lesson from Destiny 1 - don't get locked into digital games that you're not sure of. Digital Guardian edition for $120 aud still stands as one of my most regretted purchases.Learned my lesson with Destiny 1. Went digital, didn't want to keep swapping discs. Imagine I'm not the only one.
Or people are moving more towards digital
It's amazing lol. It's like digital didn't exist when D1 came out. Oh and "all my friends bought it digital" lol