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So Sean Spicer went to the Emmys today...
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Greigor The Fellhand
Member
Can Mueller use this as admission of guilt?
Ha!
VendettaRed07
Member
I think he's already got enough of those
acheron_xl
Member
Every person even remotely involved in the Trump administration should be buried under the jail, so giving one of them a spotlight is really gross.
You guys do not seem to think this through too much. Seriously. Let me just say that there are countries that would welcome to see one previous member so blatantly reveal the lie of the administration in such a direct fashion.
For just one second, stop with the faux outrage and use your heads to think through what this means for the Trump administration. If your previous comms director appears on the Emmy awards and directly references your most precious talking points, that means that the ivory tower is crumbling, and your previous employees have nothing to fear from you.
That is good news for democracy, and good news for reason and logic.
Coincidentally, this kind of mentality is what bands regimes together more tightly because if every deserter fears retaliaton all the more, they will instead just double down on corruption, lies and self-serving agendas.
Imagine Mueller going "flip Flynn? NO, LET HIM ROT IN JAIL!!!4". Nope, not happening. Flips will happen, and your country will be glad flips are possible.
For just one second, stop with the faux outrage and use your heads to think through what this means for the Trump administration. If your previous comms director appears on the Emmy awards and directly references your most precious talking points, that means that the ivory tower is crumbling, and your previous employees have nothing to fear from you.
That is good news for democracy, and good news for reason and logic.
Coincidentally, this kind of mentality is what bands regimes together more tightly because if every deserter fears retaliaton all the more, they will instead just double down on corruption, lies and self-serving agendas.
Imagine Mueller going "flip Flynn? NO, LET HIM ROT IN JAIL!!!4". Nope, not happening. Flips will happen, and your country will be glad flips are possible.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Fuck this guy
This wasn't an admission of guilt, this was
"lol I lied to your faces about national issues, lol who cares kek"
And everyone laughed it off and thinks it's ok.
Anybody who hadn't figured out Trump is full of shit isn't taking their political opinions from the Emmy's.
And selling out to peddle racist talking points then still getting to go to cool Hollywood parties demonstrates the Ivory Tower is stronger than ever. Who the fuck is gonna look at Spicer and be like "oh man poor him".
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That could have been the intention. But then you have to ask yourself why the execution was done in a way that the interpretation was very unclear to much of the viewers.
"Comedy's hard" is not a good answer, either.
acheron_xl
Member
Well, lucky for them I wasn't appointed as the special prosecutor, then.
The guy was at the forefront of a complete misinformation campaign to discredit the fourth estate, sow divide amongst the citizenry, and enact some of the most unconstitutional racist policies in modern US history. Colbert knows better than to sign on for even that dumb surprise joke, disappointed.
rocketskates
Member
Whoa. Wow. Holy crap.
Especially after seeing his whole entirety on Jimmy Kimmel's show, I kinda feel for him. He was plainly asked whether or not he believed what Trump was preaching. And he responded that as his job, he was responsible for relaying the President's ideas/thoughts to the media.
You have a job to do and you have to do it.
Enough said, dunno why the majority of GAF is acting as they are. A person is supposed to do their job, whether or not you agree with it. Get over it.
Especially after seeing his whole entirety on Jimmy Kimmel's show, I kinda feel for him. He was plainly asked whether or not he believed what Trump was preaching. And he responded that as his job, he was responsible for relaying the President's ideas/thoughts to the media.
You have a job to do and you have to do it.
Enough said, dunno why the majority of GAF is acting as they are. A person is supposed to do their job, whether or not you agree with it. Get over it.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Shid, i'da bounced and told them to mail my Emmy
Why did they invite this fucker? That shit was lame, unfunny shit.
https://twitter.com/chrissgardner/status/909598875928772608
Seems to be enjoying his time backstage too. :/
https://twitter.com/chrissgardner/status/909598875928772608
Seems to be enjoying his time backstage too. :/
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
It's really weird how so many seems to just laugh it off, you know, all the things that he said and did during his tenure at the WH.
Now, I am not actually a believer in condemning someone forever for his faults, but still, the speed and hastiness in which he seemed to be accepted afterwards feel so weird.
Now, I am not actually a believer in condemning someone forever for his faults, but still, the speed and hastiness in which he seemed to be accepted afterwards feel so weird.
acheron_xl
Member
You're going with the 'he was just doing his job!' defense? That shit was tired 70 years ago.
MarkMclovin
Member
What a weird thing to do.
Sean Spicer is a millionaire. Nobody held a gun to his head and told him he had to be press secretary. He walked into every one of those press conferences eyes open knowing he could quit at the drop of a hat, and he waited until that hat was named Anthony Scaramucci to do so.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not really. If anything it's another example for him that shows Hollywood cares more about attention than principles. He should know, he's one of them.
Yeaaah, this seems really odd. It felt like they brought a movie villain to the stage, with the exception of him not being an actor but just a villain.
Can't agree with the really harsh criticism pointed towards at Colbert specifically though, I highly doubt he has any power over who gets to the stage. I don't know this for sure ofcourse, but he is just a host who they hired for this year. Don't think it's just Colbert's show writers doing these "jokes" either. I guess people will say that he should have dropped from hosting because of this, but I find that very unreasonable. Especially considering how he has talked about Spicer in his own show and apparently made fun of him during this show too. And I also assume they didn't let Trump administration off the hook during the awards overall. Ofcourse that doesn't excuse having Spicer there to joke about seriously harmful things he has been complicit in. But I do think this all should be put into perspective, yes criticize the problematic Spicer appereance, but don't crucify the host over this. It's not his own show. And even if it was, the intention of the gag wasn't to normalize or accept it.
Can't agree with the really harsh criticism pointed towards at Colbert specifically though, I highly doubt he has any power over who gets to the stage. I don't know this for sure ofcourse, but he is just a host who they hired for this year. Don't think it's just Colbert's show writers doing these "jokes" either. I guess people will say that he should have dropped from hosting because of this, but I find that very unreasonable. Especially considering how he has talked about Spicer in his own show and apparently made fun of him during this show too. And I also assume they didn't let Trump administration off the hook during the awards overall. Ofcourse that doesn't excuse having Spicer there to joke about seriously harmful things he has been complicit in. But I do think this all should be put into perspective, yes criticize the problematic Spicer appereance, but don't crucify the host over this. It's not his own show. And even if it was, the intention of the gag wasn't to normalize or accept it.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
Personally I think they were just using him as a punchline, and also a bit of a stab at Trump. That being said, I don't think it is very appropriate. At the moment Trump is still in power, actively damaging the country. Mueller is also investigating him and many others with their connections to Russia. At this stage everything is still up in the air, and people are holding their breath waiting to see how this shit drops. Spicer himself is likely a subject of their investigation. So wheeling Spicer out, who is potentially complicit, just for a gag feels like incredibly poor timing.
Hierophant
Banned
love too clap for and have fascist enablers on stage
this is peak liberalism lmao wtf
Next year invite bannon on stage for some yuks
Hell, bring out a lifetime award winner and get kissinger up there too
this is peak liberalism lmao wtf
Next year invite bannon on stage for some yuks
Hell, bring out a lifetime award winner and get kissinger up there too
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Yup, these people need to be shunned, shamed into living in the shadows, not brought out for laughs.
Especially after the Bush administration got away with their war crimes, we cant just laugh this shit off every time an administration does stupid shit.
Master Yoshi
Member
Is he being paid for these appearances? Ugh
Exactly.
Sean Spicer isn't some struggling member of the proletariat, just trying to get by. At some point, he made a moral decision to get behind that podium and spew propaganda for an actual facist and white supremacist. And fuck him for it.
ironichaos
Member
Fuck this guy.
He deserves to be working as a janitor at Denny's for the rest of his life.
He deserves to be working as a janitor at Denny's for the rest of his life.
acheron_xl
Member
It's funny that you mention Kissinger, because he would drop by on the Colbert Report every so often (including the finale.) I could totally see that wizened old war criminal hauled out again.
Hierophant
Banned
this excuse didn't work for the Nazis in WW2, just so u know
Hierophant
Banned
the only platform he deserves is one with a noose or possibly a guillotine depending on which is more convenient, even a firing squad wouldn't be so bad either
though I feel he's one of those evil cunts who are going to live til the age of 105 or something because they need to steal more air from the rest of us
Oh please. Treating horrible shit like a joke is what helped us get the Trump administration in the first place, and anyone would be an idiot to say that has been good for democracy, reason, and logic.
The idea that Spicer making a joke at the Emmys is a sign that people are starting to turn against the administration is beyond naive.
ironichaos
Member
This is a terrible point of view and is what has caused the genocide of millions of people throughout history (ex. Germany during WWII). If the task of your job is not moral or not legal, you shouldn't do it.
It honestly doesn't surprise me that much. We had a thread here a while ago about a woman dying who worked as a secretary in the Nazi government. There were some really vile responses in that thread.
That said, Spicer definitely knew something was up and since the US isn't a facist hellhole (yet) I'm pretty sure he could've quit if he was feeling bad about straight up lying to the world.
snausagesUK
Member
While I agree that the Trump admnin is troubling a lot of the histrionics about fascism and the Nazis in this thread feels deeply disrespectful to actual victims of the Nazis
Hierophant
Banned
this also doesn't look good for many working class people (or anybody with a brain really), who often see these rich fucks as playing games with their lives, here is the epitome and logical conclusion of the notion that politics is literally just a game:
actual fascist collaborator and noted monster Sean Spicer is up on stage getting claps from a bunch of rich assholes and they're all yukkin it up like "haha only a couple months ago you were up on stage spouting off the ramblings of a man with a dying brain"
for as "liberal" as hollywood is, they sure love their own, that is, rich gigantic shitheads
the only reason there is a pushback against trump is because he's just out and loud with how much of a monster he is, they would instead prefer a respectable face like mike "taze the gays" pence and then its alright.
actual fascist collaborator and noted monster Sean Spicer is up on stage getting claps from a bunch of rich assholes and they're all yukkin it up like "haha only a couple months ago you were up on stage spouting off the ramblings of a man with a dying brain"
for as "liberal" as hollywood is, they sure love their own, that is, rich gigantic shitheads
the only reason there is a pushback against trump is because he's just out and loud with how much of a monster he is, they would instead prefer a respectable face like mike "taze the gays" pence and then its alright.
Ravensmash
Member
I hope Spicer writes a book one day - would certainly be fascinating.
He loves money, so I'm assuming he already figured it was one of the perks as working for Trump.
astroturfing
Member
wooo i love me some Spicey, thanks for this. such an awesome character with some of the BEST lines and delivery so far in the admin.. unforgettable stuff really. guy deserves all the praise he's getting. hope to see him in the sequel in a bigger role perhaps.
just kidding i'm with everyone saying fuck him. the man is complicit and should perhaps go to jail for a long time or at the very least lose everything he has.
just kidding i'm with everyone saying fuck him. the man is complicit and should perhaps go to jail for a long time or at the very least lose everything he has.
Ravensmash
Member
Wait, go to jail for what? PR spin?