30 platinum trophiesHow much stock do you have in Sony?
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30 platinum trophiesHow much stock do you have in Sony?
Well of course Phil Spencer would say that, it's the only thing that guarantees an improvement of his lacklustre console sales.
Phil just saying what most of us feel. Love his honesty. Refreshing from a executive.
its just a tweet i thinkSo is this tweet a statement that Greenberg's discussions with Sony about crossplay (from the last statement about Minecraft) have failed?
Or is Phil doing his "hey guys I'm a gamer too" schtick when he's actually the head of a corporation that should be working with Sony for a mutually beneficial way to get this done.
Why?
Oh no more people can enjoy Sony's games this is terrible because _______
I didn't realize the amount of shareholders in this thread?! Wow.
Why not? You make it sound unreasonable, but third parties exist solely off of doing that.Pretty sure they're saying that it would be ridiculous if people then complained about Sony not putting their first party games on other platforms because of course Sony shouldn't be expected to put games that they have developed, invested all the money into, and assumed all the risk for on a competitor's platform.
That man speak the truth.
Most honest and down to earth executive in gaming industry.
Saying "this doesn't make business sense" isn't being a shareholder, it's seeing reality.
Being ignorant of how businesses make their decisions doesn't make them any more likely to make the choice you want them to.
Once you accept that businesses don't get guilted into making pro-consumer decisions you can understand what it would actually take for cross-platform play to happen, and it's a lot of voting with your wallet.
Phil just saying what most of us feel. Love his honesty. Refreshing from a executive.
I didn't realize the amount of shareholders in this thread?! Wow.
Yeah I am shocked, too.Phil just saying what most of us feel. Love his honesty. Refreshing from a executive.
its just a tweet i think
im not even sure what you are trying to sayIt's a tweet from one of a few dudes that knows the details between Sony and MS about this.
Some of you guys would prefer not to know what's actually happening because it makes you feel good.
So Sony should just give up competitive advantage to it's direct competitor? Business doesn't work like that.
For once I can believe him because Xbox/Nintendo have been the only ones not opposed to console crossplay Sony in the other hand..."Phil Spencer Says A Thing |OT|"
Seriously.
To all of the posters who are putting themselves in Sony's shoes and trying to be as considerate and understanding as you can to their business needs and startegies, did you do this when the Xbox parity clause was causing riots in threads over the last few years?
I mean, we are talking about a business making business descisions in the best interest of their business, right? There wouldnt be anyone against the parity clause but pro no crossplay or vice versa, right?
So is this tweet a statement that Greenberg's discussions with Sony about crossplay (from the last statement about Minecraft) have failed?
Or is Phil doing his "hey guys I'm a gamer too" schtick when he's actually the head of a corporation that should be working with Sony for a mutually beneficial way to get this done.
Slightly off topic, but PUBG could be interesting. It's one of the only games that might have more players on XB1 than PS4, and I assume 100 player games need enormous player pools to draw from.
If MS keep up their "well we'd just LOVE crossplay" then that would be the time for Sony to call their bluff.
If PUBG doesn't get cross play the dream is as good as dead.
...assuming it ever comes to PS4, of course.
Why not? You make it sound unreasonable, but third parties exist solely off of doing that.
And as a consumer it just means more games to play.
You mean the indie parity clause which actively attempts to force indies to make their games timed exclusives to Microsoft while giving them no money for it? That's what you're comparing to this? Seriously?
Blows me away how everyone is very into the idea of cross-platform play but nobody is willing to hold Sony's feet to the fire for it.
Don't be lazy
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245644508&postcount=2414
I believe they already edited the patch notes to take out the MS policy part though.
You mean the indie parity clause which actively attempts to force indies to make their games timed exclusives to Microsoft while giving them no money for it? That's what you're comparing to this? Seriously?
If you can't release your game on time for all consoles, you probably should quit the game industry.
Yeah, cause they loose a big chunk of their revenue stream if they put it on Steam first. It's not like they're completely reluctant, they just want to earn their revenue from the people who really want the game and then put it on Steam later for everyone else.Sure, I get that, but there's a reason, for example, they're they're reluctant to put their first party games on Steam. They have that line that they don't want to cross. It just so happens that cross platform play against Nintendo and Xbox players is Sony's, which I don't think is even going to impact them as negatively as they seem to think anyway. It's a silly stance to have as I'd argue it could potentially have a worse impact on Microsoft even though they're the ones championing it.
Wtfaredoing.gifIf you can't release your game on time for all consoles, you probably should quit the game industry.
Phil Spencer is the real life Kraz (American Vandal reference).
While I wish Sony would change their stance on this, there's no fucking way MS would have sounded like this back when they were the market leader last gen. Then they were the ones refusing to let this happen. Now they/Phil are just so desperate to score some "cool gaming company" points.
Look right now if you have an Xbox and you want to play with your friends on PS4 you gotta get a PS4.
If you can cross play then that's a potential lost sale.
I feel like some of you don't understand business, Sony has a duty to their shareholders. Benefiting Microsoft doesn't benefit them.
This is classic Microsoft playing the victim when they're the underdog.
Are you serious? This is total nonsense... not everyone has big budgets and can invest the same amount of money / time on each platform... sometimes a platform has higher priority and that would most likely be the platform with the most potential customers.
I think Sonys decision is fine when seen from a business perspective. But some games could really benefit from a bigger playerbase.
Wtfaredoing.gif
Spoken like a true indie Dev /s.
ignorance truly is something sometimes...
Imagine if we could have crossplay for Destiny.
If you can't release your game on time for all consoles, you probably should quit the game industry.
My name is Phil Spencer and I'll say anything to make me look like the good guy
Indie devs need the income stream to come in before they start working on ports.
Rocket League.I know that but the industry is fast moving, no one is going to wait if your game isn't enticing enough.
I wish every game developer well but I'm not going to deny that it sucks that my preferred console have to wait an extra 6 months for a port.
I know that but the industry is fast moving, no one is going to wait if your game isn't enticing enough.
I wish every game developer well but I'm not going to deny that it sucks that my preferred console have to wait an extra 6 months for a port.
6 months late is better than neverI know that but the industry is fast moving, no one is going to wait if your game isn't enticing enough.
I wish every game developer well but I'm not going to deny that it sucks that my preferred console have to wait an extra 6 months for a port.
Rocket League.
That is still ignorance.Lol, it ain't ignorance. Very few games this generation have had success with staggered releases. It's not hatred, the game industry is fast moving and your game could get lost in the sea of many good ones that will take its place.