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Monster Hunter: World coming 26/1/2018 for PS4/XB1, CE Edition announced

Yeah I get what you're saying. Nintendo fans are throwing their toys out of the pram but when Capcom completely dumped PlayStation for about half a decade, that was fine?

Vita would have been a perfect platform for the 4th Generation of Monster Hunter, more so than 3DS from a hardware perspective and look what happened. I still remember Nintendo fans lambasting Vita owners who expected Monster Hunter on their next gen PSP.

Oh yeah

I took a LOT of shit during the Vita days... and I still played Unite and Portable 3rd on Vita out of spite

Im about over the moon to finally be out of Purgatory in 2018

And even more thrilled that PC and Xbox players are along for the ride



Nintendo will be back as well guys. No way they dont get a 5th gen game on switch..... though never forget what happened to Vita
 

DJIzana

Member
I *LITERALLY* wish it was 2018 already. It can't come soon enough. + the other games slated for release early 2018. It's a gong show!
 

Eolz

Member
This is the dumbest fucking post in this thread. I thought it'd be Sammy's post, but congrats. You've outdone Sammy.

So by your logic, did they also abandon the previous audience they'd built on PS2 when they moved to PSP? And then did they abandon the audience again going from PSP to Wii, and then Wii to 3DS?

Sammy, take notes from this guy. This is how you troll. Not the weak shit you've been peddling lately.

The small audience that was there on PS2 naturally went to the PSP.
The Wii didn't work as well as expected, despite doing still way better than the PS2 versions, and Capcom got good Nintendo support from that.
PSP version was still there during the Wii era, then went on the next big handheld (not the next big Nintendo or Sony platform) to continue on those numbers. Nintendo's marketing support helped them to make it bigger than a million seller in the west on 3DS.
WiiU and PS3 versions were just basic HD versions that didn't do much.
Now it's going from a big handheld audience with crossplatform play to 3 platforms (one months later, and one with no audience for japanese games) with no crossplatform play, all without numbers showing an appetite for hunting games.

Still looking for a counter-argument instead of just the "it's dumb!" posts though. And it has been the case since months... Most people can agree that it will do weaker numbers worldwide than the previous versions, not sure why we're suddenly back to "this is gonna ba huge!" posts.

Your colors are showing

You cant sit here and argue Nintendo shit without acknowledging Sony as well

Multiple bases have been screwed over the history of the franchise thanks to exclusivity

Now we are finally breaking free. This is the most inclusive release in the series history

Simultaneous Global release, 3 platforms, Cross region play. And hell we all know Nintendo is still gonna get a 5th gen game

So drop the bullshit. This is the best case scenario based on precedent alone. This approach is easily superior than past practices that ALWAYS excluded someone

I'm getting MHW on PC, and said I'd get the PS4 Pro if it was coming here.
I don't really see how I'm not acknowledging the game, when my issue is with Capcom's strategy.
The global release is not simultaneous on all platforms, there's no cross region play on PC, and looking forward to your receipts for the Nintendo 5th gen game.

Funny talking about "true colors" when for years before that you pushed for a PS4/Vita game at every 3DS game reveal/discussion thread, when I'm just saying that the issue there is basically from an exclusivity to a different exclusivity.

So we're they abandoning the audience they'd been building on PlayStation since the franchise inception when they went all in on Nintendo platforms?

There are still a lot of fans who will play Monster Hunter regardless of what platform it's on, but Monster Hunter couldn't stay on 3DS forever. This game has been in development for a long time, before Switch was even a thing. Capcom wanted to try and bring the series forwards and so PS4, XB1 and PC make sense. I'm sure if Switch was a thing earlier it would have also been included as well.

See my first reply above for the first paragraph.
And again for the second paragraph, don't mix up hardcore fans that will buy the game anywhere (like me, you and most people in this thread), and a more casual userbase that hasn't shown any interest on home consoles so far.

Again, we'll see how it does, but there's no argument for it becoming some big success in the West (since it won't be one in Japan). Looks and seems like a great game made with a lot of effort from the dev team, and I'm looking forward to it, but we all know that's not enough to make a game a multi million seller without the appropriate marketing, release strategy, and gameplay changes.

edit: lol, what was I saying about DrROBschiz and the Vita (when it never made sense as a platform)...
 
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The small audience that was there on PS2 naturally went to the PSP.
The Wii didn't work as well as expected, despite doing still way better than the PS2 versions, and Capcom got good Nintendo support from that.
PSP version was still there during the Wii era, then went on the next big handheld (not the next big Nintendo or Sony platform) to continue on those numbers. Nintendo's marketing support helped them to make it bigger than a million seller in the west on 3DS.
WiiU and PS3 versions were just basic HD versions that didn't do much.
Now it's going from a big handheld audience with crossplatform play to 3 platforms (one months later, and one with no audience for japanese games) with no crossplatform play, all without numbers showing an appetite for hunting games.

Still looking for a counter-argument instead of just the "it's dumb!" posts though. And it has been the case since months... Most people can agree that it will do weaker numbers worldwide than the previous versions, not sure why we're suddenly back to "this is gonna ba huge!" posts.



I'm getting MHW on PC, and said I'd get the PS4 Pro if it was coming here.
I don't really see how I'm not acknowledging the game, when my issue is with Capcom's strategy.
The global release is not simultaneous on all platforms, there's no cross region play on PC, and looking forward to your receipts for the Nintendo 5th gen game.

Funny talking about "true colors" when for years before that you pushed for a PS4/Vita game at every 3DS game reveal/discussion thread, when I'm just saying that the issue there is basically from an exclusivity to a different exclusivity.



See my first reply above for the first paragraph.
And again for the second paragraph, don't mix up hardcore fans that will buy the game anywhere (like me, you and most people in this thread), and a more casual userbase that hasn't shown any interest on home consoles so far.

Again, we'll see how it does, but there's no argument for it becoming some big success in the West (since it won't be one in Japan). Looks and seems like a great game made with a lot of effort from the dev team, and I'm looking forward to it, but we all know that's not enough to make a game a multi million seller without the appropriate marketing, release strategy, and gameplay changes.



Hey if you remember my posts from those days I pushed for Multiplatform. I wasnt looking to exclusive Sony titles but just support in general

People forget that 3rd gen WAS multiplatform all the way up to 3G/Portabl3rdHD

Ive always fought for inclusive support for this series so I recognize that this is a clear step in the right direction

Why cant you?
 

Eolz

Member
Hey if you remember my posts from those days I pushed for Multiplatform. I wasnt looking to exclusive Sony titles but just support in general

People forget that 3rd gen WAS multiplatform all the way up to 3G/Portabl3rdHD

Ive always fought for inclusive support for this series so I recognize that this is a clear step in the right direction

Why cant you?

I would say it's a step in the right direction if there was crossplay support (which really shouldn't be hard to do for PS4/PC at least, especially with global servers).
The lack of Switch support is another thing and more due to Capcom's stupid strategy (if there was one) with that platform, but wouldn't change much in the end if there was no crossplay there either.
This is effectively a game that most players will buy and play on PS4. Which wouldn't be that much of an issue for the franchise if there was a big hunting game audience there, and if the japanese market was healthier.

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Oh that armour set looks splendid.

Really nice!
 

Lonely1

Unconfirmed Member
Capcom's plan was to ignore Nintendo altogether because they thought the Switch was going to flop hard, and that's not contained to MH either.


Yeah I get what you're saying. Nintendo fans are throwing their toys out of the pram but when Capcom completely dumped PlayStation for about half a decade, that was fine?

Vita would have been a perfect platform for the 4th Generation of Monster Hunter, more so than 3DS from a hardware perspective and look what happened. I still remember Nintendo fans lambasting Vita owners who expected Monster Hunter on their next gen PSP.

MH should have gone multiplatform long ago, but at least they got right that the Vita wasn't going to be a big success and enjoyed lower production cost for the 4th gen. :O

Anyway, I'm thinking about a 6 month delay for the PC version. I hope I'm wrong :S


The red controller is kinda ugly, but otherwise is a very good looking package. We will get this in NA?
 
Capcom's plan was to ignore Nintendo altogether because they thought the Switch was going to flop hard, and that's not contained to MH either.




MH should have gone multiplatform long ago, but at least they got right that the Vita wasn't going to be a big success and enjoyed lower production cost for the 4th gen. :O

Anyway, I'm thinking about a 6 month delay for the PC version. I hope I'm wrong :S



The red controller is kinda ugly, but otherwise is a very good looking package. We will get this in NA?

I just mean that thinking of the natural evolution of the series, the Vita is what most people expected and would have made most sense purely from a technological perspective. I think choosing 3DS instead was a really good move on Capcom's part, though my point was to illustrate the fact that they effectively screwed over PlayStation owners when they completely shifted to Nintendo platforms with Gen 4, which is a lot 'worse' than what they're doing with Nintendo fans now. The Switch already has a stronger MH entry in it's first 6 months than the Vita got in it's life time. Just sucks for western fans that they haven't localised XX yet.
 

Eolz

Member
I just mean that thinking of the natural evolution of the series, the Vita is what most people expected and would have made most sense purely from a technological perspective. I think choosing 3DS instead was a really good move on Capcom's part, though my point was to illustrate the fact that they effectively screwed over PlayStation owners when they completely shifted to Nintendo platforms with Gen 4, which is a lot 'worse' than what they're doing with Nintendo fans now. The Switch already has a stronger MH entry in it's first 6 months than the Vita got in it's life time. Just sucks for western fans that they haven't localised XX yet.

Didn't Capcom say they would have chosen the DS instead of the PSP if it had been more powerful and with a stick though?
As said before, the PSP went to the 3DS is not Sony->Nintendo as much as handheld->handheld. Can easily be seen in terms of both software and hardware sales.

edit:
This is coming to PC at some point right?
months later yeah, no release date announced yet outside of 2018 for this one.
 
Yes. Seems like a bad idea to forego a simultaneous release (hurts sales comsiderably) but I’ll still wait.

They wanted more time to get the PC release up to snuff

This seems to be common amongst JP developers from what I can tell

I have no idea why though
 

Defuser

Member
I was very surprised and in shock the release date is January. I was expecting March a release and was very worried since RDR2 was delayed to spring 2018 so it would eat a big slice of sales pie that MH is supposed to have.
 

epmode

Member
They wanted more time to get the PC release up to snuff

This seems to be common amongst JP developers from what I can tell

I have no idea why though

Yeah, it’s great that Japanese publishers finally realized that PC ports are necessary, I just wish they also noticed that simultaneous releases are worth the trouble. Can’t argue with the success of Dark Souls 3, Tekken 7, and Metal Gear Solid 5’s ports.
 
I've never playing a Monster Hunter game. Is it like Dark Souls or more like The Witcher?

There are similarities for sure

And the changes in world make crossing over a bit easier

There is definitely a larger focus on other things though... like targeting weakpoints, using the environment and tools, and working as a team when playing in groups

Dark Souls player will transition easier than Witcher players
 

Raide

Member
I've never playing a Monster Hunter game. Is it like Dark Souls or more like The Witcher?

Combat a little like DS in terms of weighty attacks need deliberate timing to be effective but it's unlike either of them. Witcher is all floaty and weak, so nothing like that.
 
I've never playing a Monster Hunter game. Is it like Dark Souls or more like The Witcher?
Imagine a game where the main goal is basically just to fight Dark Souls style bosses with very few trash enemies. Not as hard as Dark Souls is, but similar design philosophy with the combat (weighty attacks, animation priority etc). Level design is completely different though. It's like a demons souls hub (though actually a town rather than just a room) and a bunch of different open regions that you travel to for missions.
 

MouldyK

Member
Vita would have been a perfect platform for the 4th Generation of Monster Hunter, more so than 3DS from a hardware perspective and look what happened. I still remember Nintendo fans lambasting Vita owners who expected Monster Hunter on their next gen PSP.

It would have been perfect...if Sony pushed for a Worldwide translation of it unlike Portable 3rd.

The best thing to come from Ninty Monster Hunters was Nintendo seemed fully behind it and we got Worldwide Games.
 

Mameshiba

Neo Member
The PS4 Pro looks really neat. Is the top actually made out of some kind of brushed aluminium or is it just the lightning in the pictures?
 

Eolz

Member
They wanted more time to get the PC release up to snuff

This seems to be common amongst JP developers from what I can tell

I have no idea why though

To get people to double dip like most high profile late pc ports.
Who wouldn't be tempted? Especially if you got friends on both platforms...
 
It would have been perfect...if Sony pushed for a Worldwide translation of it unlike Portable 3rd.

The best thing to come from Ninty Monstee Hunters was Nintendo seemed fully behind it and we got Worldwide Games.

Yeah. In the end I think Nintendo was far better for the franchise's future and Monster Hunter being on the 3DS was a big contributor in it becoming one of my favourite systems. I certainly can't complain.
 
Yeah. In the end I think Nintendo was far better for the franchise's future and Monster Hunter being on the 3DS was a big contributor in it becoming one of my favourite systems. I certainly can't complain.

Lets not be all doom and gloom


Switch JUST got XX in Japan so its not the same abandonment scenario that we went through on Sony platforms in 4th gen

I still believe that the next Switch game is already being planned. Ideally it should be an MHW port or Portable spinoff

I would double Dip hard. Love my switch
 

epmode

Member
To get people to double dip like most high profile late pc ports.

Judging from the sales of high profile Japanese PC ports released on day one, the people that double dip won’t make up for the money lost by skipping a simultaneous release. At least Namco figured it out.
 

Defuser

Member
I've never playing a Monster Hunter game. Is it like Dark Souls or more like The Witcher?
It's more or less a Dark Souls boss fight on every quest where you get to slay a Kalameet/Sinh/Midir type of monsters. You slay, go back to hub to make weapons/armor out of their corpse, repeat.
 
Judging from the sales of high profile Japanese PC ports released on day one, the people that double dip won’t make up for the money lost by skipping a simultaneous release. At least Namco figured it out.

This explanation sounds right on the money

Crazy but Im sure PC players are just happy to get all these console games in the first place

I remember to older days where that divide between PC and console was much larger

Its super cool that PC just gets almost everything these days
 

Lonely1

Unconfirmed Member
Judging from the sales of high profile Japanese PC ports released on day one, the people that double dip won’t make up for the money lost by skipping a simultaneous release. At least Namco figured it out.

Yep, If I can wait months for a PC SKU I can wait a few more for bomba prices.
 
January was completely unexpected, I was guessing maybe spring at the earliest S

Have they made any mention of if the game had G-Rank missions in it?
 
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