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Parking outside of other peoples house.

I said twice in my post at the top of this thread that it's not illegal but he still shouldn't be doing it. It's not illegal to skip the queue at the bus stop but I'm still going to call you out for being a dick if you do it.

Mate, you can't worry about that shit in congested cities, especially in London. If you did you'd never park anywhere and you'd be angry all the time. People can park where they damn well please if there are no restrictions (and most of the time there are restrictions). If the residents don't like it, they need to talk to the council but that would end up in them needing to pay for annual passes so they often don't bother. If they don't want to talk to the council, they need to STFU, there aren't enough spaces, tough shit.
 

dl77

Member
If you actually are taking up two spaces then I'd try and rectify that. In terms of parking though you have just as much right as anyone else on a public road, especially with such a passive aggressive note.

If someone left that note on my car I'd probably be more inclined, not less, to park in the same spot. Whereas if the note said something like:

'To the owner of this vehicle,

As I'm sure you've noticed, parking is it a premium on this street and as residents we find it increasingly difficult to park near our homes, which as you can imagine is frustrating for us.

If you park here as part of your daily commute could I please ask if you could investigate alternative parking or even car sharing with someone else to alleviate the problems we consistently experience.

If this is not possible could you please try and park as near to the next car as possible so that there is more space available for us all.


Thanks in advance

[aggrieved homeowner]'


then I'd probably look into what alternatives there are, or at the very least try and park a bit better.

If anything happens to your car it's not going to be hard to track down the culprits, they've given you a copy of their handwriting and, let's be honest, it's going to be one of the houses nearest to where you park.
 
I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about OP. He has a spot outside his own house, he should use it and let other people do the same. It's just manners, he's not going to get arrested for not doing it. I just don't understand why you'd want to knowingly inconvenience other people when you have the option to avoid it.

And yes, if you can park outside your own house but instead choose to park further away, on a different street, leaving less parking spaces on that street for the people who live there, that's a bit of a dick move.

Unfortunately i live in a flat above a shop and the spot outside is reserved for employees and unloading goods.
 
Honestly OP seems like a bit of a dumb dumb for getting a manual when he can't park properly with it.

Maybe it's the only car you could get at the time but I don't know. Do you expect us to have some kind of sympathy for you when you're not even TRYING to learn to take up only 1 spot?

Almost everyone drives a manual in the UK, and any automatics you do see tend to be newer, much more expensive cars
 
Mate, you can't worry about that shit in congested cities, especially in London. If you did you'd never park anywhere and you'd be angry all the time. People can park where they damn well please if there are no restrictions (and most of the time there are restrictions). If the residents don't like it, they need to talk to the council but that would end up in them needing to pay for annual passes so they often don't bother. If they don't want to talk to the council, they need to STFU, there aren't enough spaces, tough shit.

Of course people can park where they please. My understanding of the OP is that he lives on an area where everyone is forced to park on the street. He could park closer to his own home, but choose not to because he doesn't feel confident parking on a hill, so instead he's parking on a different street that is more flat and easier to park on. I'm saying he should get better at parking and just park closer to his home, freeing up space for the people that live on the street he's currently parking on.

OP didn't say he's parking there because it's the only place he can find a space, he's doing it because it's easier. I just don't see why learning how to do a hill start and parking closer to his own home isn't the best outcome here.

Why the hell do you think he would park somewhere else if he had a place outside his own house. That's crazy talk.

Because he says in the OP "The area i live is also very hilly and the spot I've been using is one of the only flat area. As i'm in the UK i drive a manual car and hill starts / reverse hill starts aren't exactly the easiest manoeuvre and i was cautious about rolling into another car."

Unfortunately i live in a flat above a shop and the spot outside is reserved for employees and unloading goods.
That's fair enough then.
 

KHarvey16

Member
The concept of having any claim to the public parking spaces in front of your home is completely alien to me. Of course it's nice when it happens, and I'm glad when it does, but I have absolutely no legal or moral right to park there. Suggestions that taking a spot if you don't live there is dickish or rude are bizarre. It's not how public parking works.
 
I don't drive and obviously don't own a car but having dick heads park out side my house is a damn nuisance. Especially when there is an empty FREE car park within eyesight of my house. So why do I get annoyed if some dickhead parks outside my house if I don't have a car ? I will tell you, because whilst I don't have a car I do care for my 77 year old mother who can barely walk and travels everywhere by taxi therefore she needs to have the taxi come as close to the door as possible.

Mostly these days the taxi has to park half way up the road and it can take her several minutes to get to the taxi, Meanwhile I look at the road filled with parked cars then look at the FREE empty car park and wonder just how lazy car owners actually are.

So to all those going "yeah public road is free for all brah, do what ya like" please consider for a minute that the house you park in front of could have an elderly/disabled person in there and you parking in front of their house will seriously make their day just that extra bit shittier than it has to be.
 

Hissing Sid

Member
After visiting friends I once came out to a note under my wiper asking me not to park next to the house I'd quite legally parked outside for the duration of the visit.

I hadn't done anything to inconvenience them they just didn't like anyone parking outside their overpriced pile of atoms. Because they were cunts.

So I laughed, threw the note at the window they were spying at me through and got on with my life.

Some ppl are pathetic petty cunts.

But yeah I'd never take up two parking spaces.

Peeps who use my drive as a handy place to turn around in can get fucked though.
 
so why is it apparently not required to learn how to use them properly in order to get your license 🤔

The UK has one of the strictest driving tests in the world, as well as the highest standard of driving.

But, there are some things you just need to learn on your own. I wasn't taught how to park on a hill, at least not in between cars. I was however taught how to parallel park, and everyone is, so I guess they just expect you to adapt that knowledge to doing it on a hill.

Assuming that's what you are referring to.
 
Unrelated story:

A few years ago, I lived in a flat in a new development in Shepherds Bush (London) - right next to Westfield. I didn't have a car when I moved in and there were not enough spaces for every flat to have a space (London bullshit) so I didn't get a space. I then bought a car and it was two years before I managed to get a space. The nearest free space to me was TWO FUCKING BUS RIDES AWAY. Fortunately, I worked away during the week but fuck me that was a pain the fucking arse.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Honestly, I can't be mad at that note. It's about as considerate a gesture in this circumstance as you're likely to get, so my instinct would be to remedy any parking issues I have (as you have admitted you're aware of).
 

KHarvey16

Member
I don't drive and obviously don't own a car but having dick heads park out side my house is a damn nuisance. Especially when there is an empty FREE car park within eyesight of my house. So why do I get annoyed if some dickhead parks outside my house if I don't have a car ? I will tell you, because whilst I don't have a car I do care for my 77 year old mother who can barely walk and travels everywhere by taxi therefore she needs to have the taxi come as close to the door as possible.

Mostly these days the taxi has to park half way up the road and it can take her several minutes to get to the taxi, Meanwhile I look at the road filled with parked cars then look at the FREE empty car park and wonder just how lazy car owners actually are.

So to all those going "yeah public road is free for all brah, do what ya like" please consider for a minute that the house you park in front of could have an elderly/disabled person in there and you parking in front of their house will seriously make their day just that extra bit shittier than it has to be.

Here in the states (or at least in Massachusetts) you can get a reserved spot in this case.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
The concept of having any claim to the public parking spaces in front of your home is completely alien to me. Of course it's nice when it happens, and I'm glad when it does, but I have absolutely no legal or moral right to park there. Suggestions that taking a spot if you don't live there is dickish or rude are bizarre. It's not how public parking works.


Don’t get me wrong, when I get home at night and there’s three “strange” cars in front of my house, my inner monologue is a seething vortex of darkness, but outwardly I just park my car across the street and go home. But not before I’ve mentally accused every one of those cars of belonging to a godless pederast. My main concern is not parking under (my own) pine tree because a branch fell off it this year and crushed my fence and almost destroyed a neighbor’s truck, and even on good days it drips pine resin and drops dense, heavy cones all the time.

I have the tree trimmed and boughed annually and would like to have it removed but the city won’t let me.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
I don't drive and obviously don't own a car but having dick heads park out side my house is a damn nuisance. Especially when there is an empty FREE car park within eyesight of my house. So why do I get annoyed if some dickhead parks outside my house if I don't have a car ? I will tell you, because whilst I don't have a car I do care for my 77 year old mother who can barely walk and travels everywhere by taxi therefore she needs to have the taxi come as close to the door as possible.

Mostly these days the taxi has to park half way up the road and it can take her several minutes to get to the taxi, Meanwhile I look at the road filled with parked cars then look at the FREE empty car park and wonder just how lazy car owners actually are.

So to all those going "yeah public road is free for all brah, do what ya like" please consider for a minute that the house you park in front of could have an elderly/disabled person in there and you parking in front of their house will seriously make their day just that extra bit shittier than it has to be.

If appealing to someone's sense of empathy in a note like that, it would be prudent to include this information (difficulty in walking, open car park nearby). The note did none of that.
 

Menchi

Member
It may be legal but it's rude as hell to park in front of someone else's house. That said, you're legally allowed but I'd definitely sort your parking out if you're really taking up two spots. That or get used to hill starts.
 
I don't drive and obviously don't own a car but having dick heads park out side my house is a damn nuisance. Especially when there is an empty FREE car park within eyesight of my house. So why do I get annoyed if some dickhead parks outside my house if I don't have a car ? I will tell you, because whilst I don't have a car I do care for my 77 year old mother who can barely walk and travels everywhere by taxi therefore she needs to have the taxi come as close to the door as possible.

Mostly these days the taxi has to park half way up the road and it can take her several minutes to get to the taxi, Meanwhile I look at the road filled with parked cars then look at the FREE empty car park and wonder just how lazy car owners actually are.

So to all those going "yeah public road is free for all brah, do what ya like" please consider for a minute that the house you park in front of could have an elderly/disabled person in there and you parking in front of their house will seriously make their day just that extra bit shittier than it has to be.

I understand your frustration but no-one knows the situation. Those people are not doing anything wrong. Maybe you could apply to had a disabled space put in outside the house?
 
I understand your frustration but no-one knows the situation. Those people are not doing anything wrong. Maybe you could apply to had a disabled space put in outside the house?

Yeah, he should do this. Any disabled person can use it however, worth knowing from the get go
 
The UK has one of the strictest driving tests in the world, as well as the highest standard of driving.

But, there are some things you just need to learn on your own. I wasn't taught how to park on a hill, at least not in between cars. I was however taught how to parallel park, and everyone is, so I guess they just expect you to adapt that knowledge to doing it on a hill.

Assuming that's what you are referring to.

i guess tests are less strict and standard are lower than in sweden

i had to start and stop on the side of the road on my swedish driving test
 

TheOfficeMut

Unconfirmed Member
I don't drive and obviously don't own a car but having dick heads park out side my house is a damn nuisance. Especially when there is an empty FREE car park within eyesight of my house. So why do I get annoyed if some dickhead parks outside my house if I don't have a car ? I will tell you, because whilst I don't have a car I do care for my 77 year old mother who can barely walk and travels everywhere by taxi therefore she needs to have the taxi come as close to the door as possible.

Mostly these days the taxi has to park half way up the road and it can take her several minutes to get to the taxi, Meanwhile I look at the road filled with parked cars then look at the FREE empty car park and wonder just how lazy car owners actually are.

So to all those going "yeah public road is free for all brah, do what ya like" please consider for a minute that the house you park in front of could have an elderly/disabled person in there and you parking in front of their house will seriously make their day just that extra bit shittier than it has to be.

1) How often are people privy to this type of information unless you go out of your way to tell them? Not often at all.

2) I seriously do not expect someone to see an open spot and ignore it, specifically in seriously condensed neighborhoods.

Unless you go around telling everyone who parks in front of your home the difficulties your mother deals with and why you'd prefer to have your spot, then I really can't expect anything different from drivers. I don't fault them one bit if they're not in the know and I think it's completely unreasonable for people to imagine this for themselves when looking for parking, otherwise if they did they'd never fucking park.
 
I don't drive and obviously don't own a car but having dick heads park out side my house is a damn nuisance. Especially when there is an empty FREE car park within eyesight of my house. So why do I get annoyed if some dickhead parks outside my house if I don't have a car ? I will tell you, because whilst I don't have a car I do care for my 77 year old mother who can barely walk and travels everywhere by taxi therefore she needs to have the taxi come as close to the door as possible.

Mostly these days the taxi has to park half way up the road and it can take her several minutes to get to the taxi, Meanwhile I look at the road filled with parked cars then look at the FREE empty car park and wonder just how lazy car owners actually are.

So to all those going "yeah public road is free for all brah, do what ya like" please consider for a minute that the house you park in front of could have an elderly/disabled person in there and you parking in front of their house will seriously make their day just that extra bit shittier than it has to be.


In most places you can apply to your city to have a space in front of a house designated as disabled. Not sure how you expect anybody to know your personal situation otherwise. They are public spots. Should people just never park anywhere because someone else might need it?
 

KHarvey16

Member
Don’t get me wrong, when I get home at night and there’s three “strange” cars in front of my house, my inner monologue is a seething vortex of darkness, but outwardly I just park my car across the street and go home. But not before I’ve mentally accused every one of those cars of belonging to a godless pederast. My main concern is not parking under (my own) pine tree because a branch fell off it this year and crushed my fence and almost destroyed a neighbor’s truck, and even on good days it drips pine resin and drops dense, heavy cones all the time.

I have the tree trimmed and boughed annually and would like to have it removed but the city won’t let me.

I can see it being a little annoying if there's plenty of parking available everywhere. I'm used to a very urban parking situation where the streets are anywhere from 50-100% full depending on the time of day, and always toward the 100% end when coming home from work. So whether I parked there or not it's almost a certainty someone else would.
 
At my apartment complex the wife of the guy that lives below me almost never parks her car properly. She always taking up two spaces and owns a little hatchback Honda civic. I don't even think it's poor parking ability. It has to be sheer laziness. If I get out of my car and I'm not parked right then I'll get back in and try again.
 
The concept of having any claim to the public parking spaces in front of your home is completely alien to me. Of course it's nice when it happens, and I'm glad when it does, but I have absolutely no legal or moral right to park there. Suggestions that taking a spot if you don't live there is dickish or rude are bizarre. It's not how public parking works.

It's not about legality, it's about consideration for your neighbors. I live on a street that is frequently parked on by a multitude of cars visiting a nearby district for restaurants and shopping. No big deal, I can park farther away. But when people park like imbeciles (taking up multiple spots through bad spacing, parking facing the wrong way, hastily pulling in so your car is two feet from the curb, etc.) now you're violating the social code. And, frankly, repeatedly parking on a residential street you don't live on violates the social code as well. It may be legal, but not having any consideration for the residents of that block is absolutely a moral failing. I realize in America caring about other people is viewed as Godless Commie talk, but this is something people should make more of an effort to be aware of so that we can all live together peacefully.
 

Nevasleep

Member
It's legal, but annoying as hell for the people who live there, especially when you don't live in the street. Maybe people will start complaining to the council to get resident permit parking.
 
If appealing to someone's sense of empathy in a note like that, it would be prudent to include this information (difficulty in walking, open car park nearby). The note did none of that.

I was really responding to all the "public road brah do what you like" shit that seems to be prevalent in this topic. I think car owners need to be a bit more considerate and think for a minute about an alternative to parking outside a strangers house.

I understand your frustration but no-one knows the situation. Those people are not doing anything wrong. Maybe you could apply to had a disabled space put in outside the house?

I have looked into this and from my research any "disabled parking bay" is purely advisory and there is no way to enforce it. Basically I would be paying a couple hundred quid for the council to paint a few lines on the road.

1) 2) I seriously do not expect someone to see an open spot and ignore it, specifically in seriously condensed neighborhoods.

You know they all seem to be able to ignore the 20 space free car park (which never has more than 2 cars in it) not more than 30 secs drive away from my house. No they park outside my house because it is more convienent for THEM and so they don't have to walk across the road to the carpark.
 
Yeah but it's still a dick move to park in front of a house that isn't yours all the time.

Be a good citizen and neighbour, don't be that guy who starts wheeling out the legal technicalities.

Agree 100%. Total dick move if done all the time. Find a spot somewhere in front of a public place to do that or vary your park job so that you "share the love" with other neighbors on the street by parking in front of other people's houses on other days. It's not that hard and these particular homeowners shouldn't have to deal with you taking up 2 parking spots every single day just because you feel like parking there, in that one particular spot, and aren't comfortable parking in tighter spots.
 

TheOfficeMut

Unconfirmed Member
I was really responding to all the "public road brah do what you like" shit that seems to be prevalent in this topic. I think car owners need to be a bit more considerate and think for a minute about an alternative to parking outside a strangers house.



I have looked into this and from my research any "disabled parking bay" is purely advisory and there is no way to enforce it. Basically I would be paying a couple hundred quid for the council to paint a few lines on the road.



You know they all seem to be able to ignore the 20 space free car park (which never has more than 2 cars in it) not more than 30 secs drive away from my house. No they park outside my house because it is more convienent for THEM and so they don't have to walk across the road to the carpark.

...of course someone is going to park where it's more convenient for them. What the hell? No one wants to inconvenience themselves, including YOU.
 

C.Mongler

Member
I mean taking up multiple spaces would grind my gears too, as in my neighborhood parking is also limited and I always see jackasses who position their cars with a half car length between both the car in front of and behind them, but literally asking you to not park on a public street is another thing. If it's a public road without any parking restrictions, and you're not blocking their driveway or anything, then I would say "tough shit", especially assuming you probably don't have some more convenient parking location near you.

So yeah, work on your parking job OP, but I wouldn't find a new place to park necessarily. Granted if you do continue to park there, you may want to figure out who they are because if they're ballsy enough to leave a note like that they may be ballsy enough to attempt vandalism if you don't succumb to their wishes.
 

Chococat

Member
Learn to park ASAP. In area with very little public parking, it is a dick move to take up 2 spots, period. You're lucky they left a note instead of doing something drastic.

Also, why do you own a car if your home/apartment doesn't provide parking? There is nothing available on your street? Where was your car stored before you got your licience or did you just buy it? Is there not public transportation? Can you not car pool? Or get scooter? Is there a lot near by you can rent parking form? If you need a car, should you not move to where you can have parking?

Yes, public parking is open for everyone, but if there is no space, there simple is no space. You are not helping by denying another resident a parking spot by taking two spaces. They can't claim the spot, but they have every right to call you out for taking up more space than you need.
 
...of course someone is going to park where it's more convenient for them. What the hell? No one wants to inconvenience themselves, including YOU.

Me I don't give a shit, I go everywhere by bus so as far as me I wouldn't give a fuck if you parked a 747 outside my fucking house. However it is a little bit different when you are watching a 77 year old woman that can barely lift their feet up stumbling with a walking frame to try and get a taxi which is now a couple hundred yards away from her house cos of arseholes that don't want to park their car in the FREE car park provided for cars to PARK IN.

So yeah people that park outside strangers houses are arseholes in my book.
 

MegaMelon

Member
Me I don't give a shit, I go everywhere by bus so as far as me I wouldn't give a fuck if you parked a 747 outside my fucking house. However it is a little bit different when you are watching a 77 year old woman that can barely lift their feet up stumbling with a walking frame to try and get a taxi which is now a couple hundred yards away from her house cos of arseholes that don't want to park their car in the FREE car park provided for cars to PARK IN.

So yeah people that park outside strangers houses are arseholes in my book.

If you had the disabled bay outside then I'd 100% agree with you but as is I I don't really think that's a fair judgement.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
Me I don't give a shit, I go everywhere by bus so as far as me I wouldn't give a fuck if you parked a 747 outside my fucking house. However it is a little bit different when you are watching a 77 year old woman that can barely lift their feet up stumbling with a walking frame to try and get a taxi which is now a couple hundred yards away from her house cos of arseholes that don't want to park their car in the FREE car park provided for cars to PARK IN.

So yeah people that park outside strangers houses are arseholes in my book.

You can't just assume that every place has a disabled person in it, so all street parking is off limits.
 
If you had the disabled bay outside then I'd 100% agree with you but as is I I don't really think that's a fair judgement.

Yes it is a fair judgement it is an incredibly selfish act for other people to feel they have the right to put their wants above the person that lives in the house you are parking at. A typical I am having that, fuck you and everyone else attitude which seems to be epidemic with car owners.

You can't just assume that every place has a disabled person in it, so all street parking is off limits.

Personally I would say yes I would like to see all street parking banned because cars parked cause obstructions on the road and at times turn 2 way roads into 1 way roads with huge jams as buses and other cars struggle to get past cars parked especially when there is a perfectly handy free empty carpark provided that no one uses cos they can't be arsed to cross the road and take an extra 30 secs to walk to their car.
 

Dougald

Member
In the UK, you can park anywhere there are no restrictions as long as you're not blocking a dropped kerb, but middle class and old people will get pissed if you park outside their house. You can still park there as long as you're not obstructing access, no matter how grumpy people get about it

Don't take up two spaces though.
 

Big Blue

Member
If you're taking up 2 spots, then you need to get more comfortable parking. But they can fuck off about parking in front of your house. The street is public property.
 

MegaMelon

Member
Yes it is a fair judgement it is an incredibly selfish act for other people to feel they have the right to put their wants above the person that lives in the house you are parking at. A typical I am having that, fuck you and everyone else attitude which seems to be epidemic with car owners.

But putting the disabled issue aside for a moment, aren't people living at a home also being just as selfish in wanting to have their car parked right outside their house? I don't see how that's any less "fuck you and everyone else" since if you want people to walk an extra 30 seconds they can just as easily say the same to you?
 

Lagamorph

Member
If it's a public road then they can't really stop you, though if you don't live on the road then try to be a little considerate where possible.

If you are parking across two spaces then you're being a dick though. If you're not confident enough/capable of parking in a single space on that road because it's on an incline then find somewhere else to park.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
Yes it is a fair judgement it is an incredibly selfish act for other people to feel they have the right to put their wants above the person that lives in the house you are parking at. A typical I am having that, fuck you and everyone else attitude which seems to be epidemic with car owners.



Personally I would say yes I would like to see all street parking banned because cars parked cause obstructions on the road and at times turn 2 way roads into 1 way roads with huge jams as buses and other cars struggle to get past cars parked especially when there is a perfectly handy free empty carpark provided that no one uses cos they can't be arsed to cross the road and take an extra 30 secs to walk to their car.

Cool, get street parking outlawed. Until then, this is irrelevant.
 
parking anywhere is fine, taking up more than 1 spot is not cool.

glad you don't live in my neighborhood.

ever heard of "residential parking only"?

[guess not]

OP, don't consistently park in front of another person's house when they're already consistently having issues parking in front of THEIR OWN DAMN HOUSE.

at least in my municipality, it's very illegal for most people to just roll up and park in front of my house.

but this is partly due to the way taxes work here, us homeowners fork over pretty much 100% of the municipal taxes through property tax [we pay over $5,000 a year just to own a house].

whereas in the UK everyone pays council tax, regardless of whether you own a house or not, so i would presume everyone has equal rates to all municipal services [and probably no such thing as residential parking?].

still, this note was NOT unfriendly - i think you could talk to this person and just explain what you explained in the OP and they should be receptive to it.

i dunno, you seem nice, they seem nice [for a NIMBY] i think this has potential.

edit: aaand, it seems like we finally have some more homeowners chiming in, glad to see i'm not the only one kind of siding with the homeowners here.
 

dose

Member
Yes it is a fair judgement it is an incredibly selfish act for other people to feel they have the right to put their wants above the person that lives in the house you are parking at. A typical I am having that, fuck you and everyone else attitude which seems to be epidemic with car owners.
So you still can't grasp the fact that if it's a public road ANYONE can park on it legally. You're not entitled to that space, your elderly mother is not entitled to it. It is a public road. You may not like it but too bad. It's not a case of being selfish at all. Either sort out a disabled bay or face the fact that people are not doing anything wrong by parking there.
 

Dougald

Member
still, this note was NOT unfriendly - i think you could talk to this person and just explain what you explained in the OP and they should be receptive to it.

This note is the British equivalent of beating the shit out of OP, especially saying that they "park without consideration"
 
But putting the disabled issue aside for a moment, aren't people living at a home also being just as selfish in wanting to have their car parked right outside their house? I don't see how that's any less "fuck you and everyone else".

Yes yes they are. I don't park a car outside my house cos I don't have one. If I did have a car I would definitely park it in the off road free car park provided. But if you are parking outside your OWN house then you can be absolutely sure you are not putting someone else out in terms of them getting access to the road from their property.
 
This note is the British equivalent of beating the shit out of OP, especially saying that they "park without consideration"

lol, as a Canadian [who studied in London UK no less] i can sort of agree [we're still working on our mastery of the passive agressive, but we're on the path!].

but honeslty man, if you have any experience with neighbor disputes between homeowners, this note is like a fucking birthday card with a $100 spot in it.
 
Yes it is a fair judgement it is an incredibly selfish act for other people to feel they have the right to put their wants above the person that lives in the house you are parking at. A typical I am having that, fuck you and everyone else attitude which seems to be epidemic with car owners.



Personally I would say yes I would like to see all street parking banned because cars parked cause obstructions on the road and at times turn 2 way roads into 1 way roads with huge jams as buses and other cars struggle to get past cars parked especially when there is a perfectly handy free empty carpark provided that no one uses cos they can't be arsed to cross the road and take an extra 30 secs to walk to their car.

OK.

1) you're a fucking lunatic
2) Pay the £200 and I bet people won't park there. I wouldn't.
 
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