Yeah i get that a lot with my little cousins, when a game is 60fps they say that "it feels fast" even if they have no idea why or what framerate is, when i was i kid in the ps1 era i thought it had something to do with the cd reading speed, same for frame drops lol.
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DigitalFoundry analysis of DOOM for Nintendo Switch
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Yeah i get that a lot with my little cousins, when a game is 60fps they say that "it feels fast" even if they have no idea why or what framerate is, when i was i kid in the ps1 era i thought it had something to do with the cd reading speed, same for frame drops lol.
Gotdatmoney
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Eurogamer revealed the clocks. I'm on mobile but I can find the article.
As for wasting your time you called the game severely cut back when literally everyone who played it has said otherwise. Shell of the other versions isn't extreme hyperbole? Not sure whose being ridiculous here. The Borderlands stuff is just icing on the cake really.
Framerate has no bearing in your brothers statement since both games are 60 fps.
Greatest Ever
Member
30 FPS is a severe cutback.
Gotdatmoney
Member
The average person who plays games but doesnt know tech can probably tell framerate difference if they played one game at 30fps and then at 60fps. But they have no idea why. Which is what gets you the PES vs Fifa comparison.
Bill R Boggess
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While I always appreciate 60 over 30 fps when offered, I think we can all agree that anyone who doesnt own another console or PC capable of playing this game at 60fps should still be able to glean plenty of enjoyment out of Doom at the lower framerate.
Or those who want a portable version, which is admittedly cool.
Or those who want a portable version, which is admittedly cool.
Greatest Ever
Member
More to distribution of weight and the ergonomics of it being one construct vs a tablet with two attached controllers.
For what it's worth I love the hell out of the Switch tablet itself, shit is thicc. Wouldn't mind browsing the web on it.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Yeah I know ofcource for other things too but the point is just because they can't detail the performance issues they perfer something because it playes better, faster etc.
Yes guys we get it you don't want anybody to enjoy their Switch
I don't think this tactic is working though
Don't worry though when I'm playing and enjoying wolfenstein I'll be sure to pour one out for all the very concerned pixel counting posters ITT
Gotdatmoney
Member
It's a noticeable change. I don'r consider it a severe cut back if the end result is a solid running faithful recreation. Severely cut back is like CoD on the Wii vs CoD on the 360.
moltonasty
Member
It sucks for the 30 fps, but otherwise, i think playing in handheld mode will mitigate a lot of the resolution/blurriness issues since it is confined to a small screen. If anything, this just represents how incredibly scalable the itech6 engine is. And you essentially have DOOM on the go, which is just awesome.
Either way, i think Nintendo fans are in for a treat. DOOM f'n rocks.
Either way, i think Nintendo fans are in for a treat. DOOM f'n rocks.
Greatest Ever
Member
It's Doom 2016.
I'll play the hell out of portable Doom and Wolfenstein (and anything else cool that comes to the Switch). I have a gaming PC for when I want to max shit out and feel badass about my framerate and resolution.
Huh! But both Fifa and PES are 60fps!
No reason not to expect 60fps on a game that is 60fps and the developers of said game have touted 60fps as being a key point of the game. There are bunch of 60fps games on the NS already, so I don't see where people are going with this "you expected 60fps?" talk. 60fps games are not rare on the the system.
Mbolibombo
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Quality shitpost
Papacheeks
Banned
No.
We want people to play games the way they are meant to be played. Mario Kart doesn't run at 30fps when in handheld mode, same with splatoon. If they were given more time and maybe a little bit more money from Nintendo to make a specific version like what they did with NBA2K, it might be a different game, but the things that matter the most would be prioritized.
Even if it looks like a more cartoony version with a different renderer, and was sub 720p as long as the shooting stayed at 60 fps the core of the feel and gameplay wouldn't be compromised.
Because now change in pacing, reaction time, animation speeds for actions, and what not are going to playout differently. It may resemble doom in it's weapons, monsters, but it won't play as frantic as doom does on PS4/ XBOX. And to me thats what matters most.
From what I've seen the urgency of quick action is not there, it's now more paced instead of being split decision/reaction time, which is what doom is all about.
RichiRamjag
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If you expected a doom port at 60fps on switch and find yourself disappointed, then thats on you. It was an unrealistic expectation from the start.
Meh. Played it before I upgraded to a 1070, it hovered between 30 and 35 fps. Played it again just thus week at 60. I don't recall enjoying it more. But then low drame rates have never bothered me.
darkstar0155
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Fixed that for you, since every version that isn't the best version apparently is shit in your eyes. (and this isn't even getting into the fact there is no proof that it plays worse unless I am mistaken)
No another plus is that if you do not own any other consol or PC you can play Doom. I personally think that there are a lot of people happy owning one gaming machine.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Why are you so furious about it???
killatopak
Member
on base ps4. on pro it allows 60fps. 540p on Vita and 1080p on Xperia.
Renegade Frost
Banned
REmote play halves the framerate of whatever game you play
Greatest Ever
Member
No, it would be 60 FPS capped on any PS4, meaning the same dips the PS4 version suffers from.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
An Atari version would be awesome
hemo memo
Gold Member
All the improvements made to the Frostbite engine. I wasn't talking about FPS in the first place. My point was that performance matter.
I love Digital Foundry, but these "we built this PC to simulate console hardware X"-features are just dumb fillouts. If they would have any actual hardware architecture experience i'm sure they would just stay away from that type of guess-work comparisons.
The same could be said for the features with video from trailers as the only source. I mean that Doom-trailer could just be a video-rip of a video-rip of the PC version with video compression quality loss.
The same could be said for the features with video from trailers as the only source. I mean that Doom-trailer could just be a video-rip of a video-rip of the PC version with video compression quality loss.
Niceguydan8
Member
To an extent of course.
That being said, the larger market has shown that they generally prefer higher graphical quality > 60FPS, for example. Or on the flipside, that 30FPS is an acceptable standard.
I'm sure they're stuck at 30 because of CPU bottlenecks so changing the pixel count won't do anything. Kinda disappointing but portable Doom is still super rad. This isn't just a second game made for portables but taking a console game and shoving it onto a portable. Still really impressive shit.
60fps games that look like DOOM? I don't think there are any 60fps games on the Switch that come anywhere close.
Naked Snake
Member
I haven't been keeping up with the thread, but if this is a representative sample of what's been going on here... Yikes.
Doom has excellent motion blur. That can go a long way in making a 30fps title feel more smooth.
Skittzo0413
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I thought GameXplain was told it was 720p handheld. Wouldn't that indicate at least 720p docked, more likely 900p?
Potentially up to those numbers with dynamic res.
prag16
Banned
It pretty much is. The thread was embarrassing from page 1, and hundreds more posts haven't helped the situation.
That's the thing, I don't think ANYONE expected the game to look like the PS4 version and I think people would have been perfectly fine with the graphical trade off in order to get that 60fps.
Exactly the fix I was going to make.
Take that comment and apply to any game not played on PC at a high spec then.
Look, I'm bummed about the drop to 30fps too but the fact is on the Switch's screen there will be no input lag and that makes a lot of difference to the feel of a game, even at 30fps. It's the same reason a locked 30fps game on a CRT doesn't feel sluggish by nature.
I hope Bethesda puts out a demo for the game so everyone can get a feel for themselves how it plays before buying.
Toni
Member
The Switch hype has everybody going out of their darn mind.
hemo memo
Gold Member
100%
Also my favorite hack&slash game is DmC and 30FPS is by no means "unplayable"
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
The Mighty No. 9 of Doom ports.