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Dragon Ball Super |OT8| There is no justice or evil, only survival or erasure.

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Lol Gohan "I mustn't let my guard down" proceeds to let guard down and get hit repeatedly while never countering once

First half of the episode was pretty lame

He didn't let his guard down, he didn't know how to counter IT.
Also, he should defeat the yardart in ultimate form... Ultimate form is not that strong, thats it.
No where near SSB or even Golden Freeza.
Gohan really needs to step up, he has done nothing so far and he was supposed to be the strategist....

Like mentioned above, he finished off U10 and Ultimate is strong, it allowed him to trade blows with Blue.
Why he didn't use Ultimate against Jimeze I don't know, I guess he would have used it if the fight went a little longer.
 
Best new character in super....franky is ya fav strawhat sit down.
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I'm surprised this arc is still pretty interesting considering they've been stuck in the worst location in series history for over 10 episodes now.
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
Champa screaming at Frost "You idiot you are no match for him" was awesome.

Frieza is such a great character. I'm in love as well.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Decent episode I guess. Bittersweet about Frost being out despite wanting him gone. Also kind of felt it could've been executed better, but it's whatever. That said, loved that Zeno wasn't having any of that shit lmao

Sanji has gotten more character development, fight time, and focus than anyone ever will get in Dragonball outside of Goku. One Piece fans have nothing to complain about.

No lies there.
 
Frieza basically said "Don't fuck with the original."

Yeah, not a fan of Gohan's showing in this, act or not. Krillin would've fit that role a lot better and a lot more convincingly.

Not sure how to feel about Ultimate being shown as a transformation. That bang should've stayed down the second it was brought back.
 

Unbounded

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This entire episode is better once you realize
Frieza could have easily stomped frost at literally any time he wanted but instead chose to go through an elaborate scheme just to get his hopes up only to crush him.

This is Dio levels of dickery and I love it.
 

ArtHands

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Okay, one question. Why was that neccecary at all? Couldn't easily have disposed of Frost without all this lol? The entire thing with Gohan seemed a bit unnecessary, unless I missed something. That being said, the scene of Frost getting blown away and then him getting eliminated was just hilarious.

Its easier to go through this mind fuckery and eliminate Frost with minimal stamina wasted.
 

LotusHD

Banned
This entire episode is better once you realize
Frieza could have easily stomped frost at literally any time he wanted but instead chose to go through an elaborate scheme just to get his hopes up only to crush him.

This is Dio levels of dickery and I love it.

Good point lol
 

HeroR

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Really weak episode.

The premise revolves entirely around Frieza betraying Frost so why fight Gohan? If you need to trick someone, its assumed they have the same strength as you and thats why you have to trick them. Frieza can body Frost in base form ffs. And you cant even mention conserving stamina since he used Golden form against Gohan anyway.

The art was also atrocious for large parts of the episode.

For something that should've been a pivotal moment in the tournament, it was GT level executed.

Also lol @ people criticising Gohan. He was playing along the entire time. Everything that happened means nothing.

Against Frieza, not the person from U2.
 
damn, Frosty erased with the quickness.

man its weird seeing Ultimate treated like a transformation, the whole point of it was that it had no drawbacks like the SSJ forms so he could keep it "on",
 

Kagari

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damn, Frosty erased with the quickness.

man its weird seeing Ultimate treated like a transformation, the whole point of it was that it had no drawbacks like the SSJ forms so he could keep it "on",

Toei did the same thing in Movies 13 and 14 so I'm not surprised.
 

mas8705

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So part of me wonders a few things from this episode. For all we know, Frieza's plan is still the same and considering circumstances. Here's what I mean with this week's "Fighter Rankings"

1) Vegeta- 6 Eliminations, 3 assists
2) Goku- 3 Eliminations, 3 Assists
3) Frieza- 4 Eliminations
4) Master Roshi- 3 Eliminations, two assists
5) Android 18- 3 Eliminations, one Assist
6)Kale- 2 Eliminations 3 Assists
7) Caulifla- 1 Elimination 3 Assists
8) Cabba, Android 17, Gohan, & Hit- 2 Eliminations
12) Krillin- 1 Elimination, 2 Assists
13- Tien 1 Elimination, One Assist
14) Basil, Frost, Ribianne, Jimeze Piccolo, Harmira, Jiren- 1 Elimination

1) U7- 7
2)U6/U3-6
4) U2-5
5) U4-4
6) U11-3

31 Fighters remain

Frieza was basically sitting with Cabba, 17, Gohan and Hit for a while now, but with two straight eliminations, Frieza moved up to 3rd, passing Master Roshi (since I would take it that getting eliminations counts more than assists in the long run). Should the situation play out where Frieza continues to eliminate the weaker enemies, he could easily be sitting comfy as the "MVP" and get the Wish to basically be the new "God" or whatever the plan would be.

In regards of Frost, I think we all saw that coming that the two were going to stab each other in the back somewhere and of course it would have been Frieza who got the better of Frost and a free elimination. Still, that sudden erase of Frost caught me off guard, and it does make me wonder if that will be it for Frost in Super (or if he will likely get revived with the rest of the universe if that's the likely outcome of the survival arc).

As for the next episode... Definitely going to be one to watch. One thing I'd like to know though is if Jiren is actually going to take out Ribianne before fighting Goku. If so, that could be a strong indicator for which universe would go next since it does seem like either U2 or U4 will be gone next.
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
Absorbing Spirit Bomb to go silver makes a lot of sense. Then they'll be like Goku's body has adjusted to the new level of strength and so he can go Silver whenever he wants blah blah
 
Seriously, what was the point of that?

This deception wasn't even needed. Frieza could have easily taken out Frost without it.

For how lame it ended up being at least the way it wrapped up was kinda funny, but still that whole aspect ended up being disappointing.
 

NeonZ

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Toei did the same thing in Movies 13 and 14 so I'm not surprised.

Not really. In movie 14, Gohan's bang appears as soon as he wears his gi, even before he powers ups. That likely happened because they just reused an old character design for that outfit.
 
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