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Destiny 2 comes out on PC in 1 month from today, how many are still excited?

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AnathemicOne

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Savitar said:
Totally, I want to see that epic Bungie stor...*snorts*........sorry I couldn't pull it off.
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Hell even Blizzard with its mediocre writing can atleast pull off a coherent story, regardless if its poor or not. Atleast there's something there.

CountAntonius said:
I know they like to call warframe an mmo but it's not an mmo so comparing to wow seems extremely silly to me. The two games it can be compared to on pc are Borderlands 2 which sold 8 million and still has a a couple thousand people playing it on Steam years later with no new content and Warframe which is still very popular.



If you think the only way destiny on PC is a success is it WoW quit wow for it that's a bit silly.
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I'm not arguing Destiny 2's success on the PC, yeah I doubt it, but that's not my argument. MY argument is the merit of its place within the Battle.Net client. Yes I'm pressing this issue because the mediocrity Destiny 2 allows will serve as a horrid precedent for Activision to shove more mediocre titles on Blizzard's client. When Call of Duty shit appears on Battle.Net I'm done.
 
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AlexBasch

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texhnolyze said:
I'm not really sure. People keep saying that this is 'a game with you friends' through and through, and I don't have friends who'll be playing the game.
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FWIW, I have been enjoying the game a lot playing alone and didn't feel like I wasted my money or anything. :)

I had fun playing Diablo 3 and it's expansions and all Borderlands games without friends or other people, so take my opinion with a shitload of salt if you're not like me. :p
 
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Arrrammis

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Super excited! Destiny is probably my most played game ever, and the extra 1.5 month wait for the PC version is torture, but that sweet frame rate and M+KB control is so good. Also looking forward to reconnecting with some of the OG DestinyGaffers who seem like they're coming back on pc :)
 
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Thoraxes

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I wouldn't say i'm excited, as now I know everything to expect so it won't really feel fresh, but i'm still looking forward to the experience of playing with my friends.
 
molnizzle

molnizzle

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AnathemicOne said:
There's no subscription for GW2, ESO, Wildstar, etc. either. Yeah I'm prioritizing Battle.Net here but the game is also competing in the MMO space by virtue of its (poor) MMO design elements. MMOs thrive on community retention, Destiny 2 on Battle.Net seeks to pull the Blizzard playerbase into the new title rather than have it stand on its own.

Again, the main question/gripe is will the Battle.Net community be concurrent players of Destiny 2 with its shoddy design? Doubt it. And it the title doesn't pull in the Battle.Net community, then it shouldn't be in the client in the first place.
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It doesn't have shoddy design though. And yes, it'll have concurrent players on Battle.net. Especially with the cross-game chat functionality. People will hop off Overwatch and Hearthstone to do their raids on reset day.

Destiny raids are something you can't experience in any other game. They're like MMO raids that actually require everyone to be skilled since it's still an FPS with only 6 players. I played WoW and Diablo 3 for many years and neither of those games scratch the itch that Destiny does.

You're sounding kinda childish here, honestly.
 
Redshirt

Redshirt

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The Blizzard fan base gives zero shits about Destiny.

If Bungievision's success on PC relies on that group, this game will bomba hard.

I'm passing personally. I was hyped, and then the game released on consoles.
 
nikos

nikos

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Most of my friends are on PS4, so I caved and bought it there. Already bored of it.

I don't really like playing these types of games on a controller, so I'm still probably going to get it on PC. I can see myself playing it more often there.
 
PepperedHam

PepperedHam

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The game is not without its problems but it's a lot of fun. And the idea that the game shouldn't be on the Blizzard client because of Blizzard's pedigree is... huh? Weird ideas floating around in here when I don't really see the issue or concern. It seems more like a "I don't want Destiny 2 on my favorite developer's launcher because it will taint their image" situation rather than an actual concern. The game will do great on PC pulling in an audience from all over, not just trying to siphon Blizzard fans. Battle.net is just a pretty solid service and they'd rather partner with Blizzard and use those resources as they're both under the Activision umbrella.

I'll be double dipping as I have friends who no longer have consoles and I'd love to play with them again.
 
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AnathemicOne

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molnizzle said:
It doesn't have shoddy design though. And yes, it'll have concurrent players on Battle.net. Especially with the cross-game chat functionality. People will hop off Overwatch and Hearthstone to do their raids on reset day.

Destiny raids are something you can't experience in any other game. They're like MMO raids that actually require everyone to be skilled since it's still an FPS with only 6 players. I played WoW and Diablo 3 for many years and neither of those games scratch the itch that Destiny does.

You're sounding kinda childish here, honestly.
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WoW raids don't require everyone to be skilled? There's reason why 40man raids don't exist anymore.
 
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NegativeCero

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I've managed to stay away from most Destiny media and can't wait to get into it. Didn't double dip because I wanted to use that time to play other things.
 
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AnathemicOne

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PepperedHam said:
The game is not without its problems but it's a lot of fun. And the idea that the game shouldn't be on the Blizzard client because of Blizzard's pedigree is... huh? Weird ideas floating around in here when I don't really see the issue or concern. It seems more like a "I don't want Destiny 2 on my favorite developer's launcher because it will taint their image" situation rather than an actual concern. The game will do great on PC pulling in an audience from all over, not just trying to siphon Blizzard fans. Battle.net is just a pretty solid service and they'd rather partner with Blizzard and use those resources as they're both under the Activision umbrella.

I'll be double dipping as I have friends who no longer have consoles and I'd love to play with them again.
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Prestige and precedent. If Destiny 2 fails to pull in the Battle.Net community permanence like the rest of Blizzard titles, then it sets a bad precedent of allowing Activision to shove more mediocre titles onto the client. No I don't believe Battle.Net should be the next Steam or Origin because it isn't and shouldn't be.
 
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sikkinixx

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Aztechnology said:
Not enough to double dip. It's a nice improvement over the first in some ways, and a step in the wrong direction in some others. It's fun, but the well will still dry up fast without solid post launch support in a timely manner. After you've completed the raid there's not much there to come back for unless you're crazy about Destiny's PVP. And even as someone with a group who can do flawless trials etc, I just don't care enough. In fact I'd rather not have to deal with it at all.

Missing the fresh experience of the launch will heavily diminish the overall experience I think too. It's not a great sign when people who have played like 50 hours are already capped in a loot based game. And no the issue is not that it's easier to get gear, that's a welcome relief. It's that there's not a lot of variety. Everything has been simplified to a point where it can be properly balanced for PVE and PVP in parallel and it just doesn't work.
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I agree with the simplification bit. It’s crazy how basic the classes are now. Pick a Grenade/jump/class ability and then one of two trees. No mixing allowed. It sucks.
 
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CountAntonius

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AnathemicOne said:
I'm not arguing Destiny 2's success on the PC, yeah I doubt it, but that's not my argument. MY argument is the merit of its place within the Battle.Net client. Yes I'm pressing this issue because the mediocrity Destiny 2 allows will serve as a horrid precedent for Activision to shove more mediocre titles on Blizzard's client. When Call of Duty shit appears on Battle.Net I'm done.
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The only precedent set is Activision doesn't need to give up 30% to Steam anymore. You notice that section says Activision and not Destiny? It's happening and it would have with or without Destiny 2. Also Heroes of The Storm is an awful game. So it would be nothing new for that client.
 
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hamchan

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I was patient enough to wait for the PC version but I do feel the hype is falling now that we're out of the zeitgeist of the console release.
 
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Aztechnology

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Redshirt said:
The Blizzard fan base gives zero shits about Destiny.

If Bungievision's success on PC relies on that group, this game will bomba hard.

I'm passing personally. I was hyped, and then the game released on consoles.
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Just to clarify, I'm hoping you mean that you saw what it had to offer once it was out on consoles and said no thanks. And it's not "Eww consoles". I'm 99% sure it's the former, but you might want to clarify that for people who will probably take that wrong.
 
iHaunter

iHaunter

Member
Too much of the same from Destiny 1, some aspects seem worse from what I've been reading.

Was hoping for a true fps mmo with space ships. Just a valley shooter halo clone, which makes sense, bungie created it. Just looks like a more polished Destiny 1, nothing really special.
 
Redshirt

Redshirt

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Aztechnology said:
Just to clarify, I'm hoping you mean that you saw what it had to offer once it was out on consoles and said no thanks. And it's not "Eww consoles". I'm 99% sure it's the former, but you might want to clarify that for people who will probably take that wrong.
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Yeah. Lol. I own all consoles and Destiny 1 on Xbox. :p
 
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Aztechnology

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sikkinixx said:
I agree with the simplification bit. It's crazy how basic the classes are now. Pick a Grenade/jump/class ability and then one of two trees. No mixing allowed. It sucks.
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Not just that, but the gear itself. It's not interesting. A few pieces are standouts, like Raiden Flux,chest for hunter, and Mask of the Quiet one, just overall in terms of how good it is. The only piece of gear that changes the way supers work now though is Celestial Nighthawk which is a carryover from D1. Outside of that, they all have turned rather generic in order to balance for PVP. Couple that with what you said about the skill trees and the variation, which I had expected to increase with D2 actually took a pretty large step backward. In a loot based game, most of which rely on build options to keep people interested, it's not a great move.
 
molnizzle

molnizzle

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AnathemicOne said:
WoW raids don't require everyone to be skilled? There's reason why 40man raids don't exist anymore.
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Uh, no? DPS can usually coast.

There's no "easy job" when there are only 6 positions and the combat requires actual hand-eye coordination. You can't hotbar click your way through a Destiny encounter. You've gotta be able to move and you've gotta be able to shoot your targets in the head.

AnathemicOne said:
Prestige and precedent. If Destiny 2 fails to pull in the Battle.Net community permanence like the rest of Blizzard titles, then it sets a bad precedent of allowing Activision to shove more mediocre titles onto the client. No I don't believe Battle.Net should be the next Steam or Origin because it isn't and shouldn't be.
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It'll pull the community in and even grow it.

Destiny was generally in the top 10 on Twitch every weekend, even 3 years after it launched (in quite a bad state, mind you) and without a PC client. Destiny 2 is actually a well-designed game and will now be on PC, complete with cross-game chat with Blizzard games.

Game will (continue to) be huge.
 
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Strakt

Member
Redshirt said:
The Blizzard fan base gives zero shits about Destiny.

If Bungievision's success on PC relies on that group, this game will bomba hard.

I'm passing personally. I was hyped, and then the game released on consoles.
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Off of what facts?

I have played every blizzard game, and I'm interested in it so therefore your statement is pretty much wrong. I also know a ton of people who solely play WoW overwatch and d3 who are also interested in it. Not saying it should rely on blizzard's fanbase, but this is the perfect type of game to put on battle.net.
 
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Maximo

Member
Too much I haven't played this and with Wolfenstein/ Evil Within 2 and IF I get a Switch for Mario...just seems like there are better games to consume my time with.
 
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AnathemicOne

Banned
CountAntonius said:
The only precedent set is Activision doesn't need to give up 30% to Steam anymore. You notice that section says Activision and not Destiny? It's happening and it would have with or without Destiny 2. Also Heroes of The Storm is an awful game. So it would be nothing new for that client.
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Atleast HotS had the merit to try and be innovative within the MOBA genre. I agree it's a poor MOBA but its a nice time-killer imo. What did Destiny 2 do to innovate from its predecessor?
 
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fluffydelusions

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AnathemicOne said:
We'll have to see PC sales, atm I really doubt it. I'm an avid player of WoW and yeah people will play it, because they can do so for free via gold conversions. But will they remain concurrent players after the first few months? Highly doubt it when every MMO and loothunting aspect Destiny 2 has is done better in WoW.
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I doubt we'll get platform specific numbers. I don't think we have them for overwatch doubt destiny will be any different.
 
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CountAntonius

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AnathemicOne said:
Atleast HotS had the merit to try and be innovative within the MOBA genre. I agree it's a poor MOBA but its a nice time-killer imo. What did Destiny 2 do to innovate from its predecessor?
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I haven't played it and you obviously despise it so that's not really a debate worth having. My point is Battle.net is a store front that is partly owned by Activision so it's only a matter of time. My guess why they chose Destiny 2 as the first is because this game had/has potential to sell extremely well where as CoD hasn't on PC in a long while.
 
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Obliterator

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AnathemicOne said:
then it sets a bad precedent of allowing Activision to shove more mediocre titles onto the client. No I don't believe Battle.Net should be the next Steam or Origin because it isn't and shouldn't be.
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Give me a freaking break. Destiny 2 is anything but mediocre. It's one of the best games of the year
 
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AnathemicOne

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molnizzle said:
Uh, no? DPS can usually coast.

There's no "easy job" when there are only 6 positions and the combat requires actual hand-eye coordination. You can't hotbar click your way through a Destiny encounter. You've gotta be able to move and you've gotta be able to shoot your targets in the head.



It'll pull the community in and even grow it.

Destiny was generally in the top 10 on Twitch every weekend, even 3 years after it launched (in quite a bad state, mind you) and without a PC client. Destiny 2 is actually a well-designed game and will now be on PC, complete with cross-game chat with Blizzard games.

Game will (continue to) be huge.
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DPS can usually coast? What are you doing LFR? Man all these ilvl checks and DPS addon checks are useless then. Mobility is something with current raid content in WoW and has been since for a good couple years now.

Obliterator said:
Give me a freaking break. Destiny 2 is anything but mediocre. It's one of the best games of the year
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What innovative and/or polished MMO content does Destiny 2 bring to the table, or loothunting content for that matter.
 
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Sarcasm

Member
Excited but will wait for a sale. None of my friends are getting it. One friend would probably pick it up on sale too.
 
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Obliterator

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AnathemicOne said:
What innovative and/or polished MMO content does Destiny 2 bring to the table, or loothunting content for that matter.
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Destiny is a shooter first and foremost not an MMO. And it's gunplay is spectacular. Also beautiful art style and visuals and very fun co-op content and that's all it needs to be a great game.

Why does it have to be the second coming of Jesus Christ to merit being excited over?
 
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Strakt

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AnathemicOne said:
DPS can usually coast? What are you doing LFR? Man all these ilvl checks and DPS addon checks are useless then. Mobility is something with current raid content in WoW and has been since for a good couple years now.



What innovative MMO content does Destiny 2 bring to the table, or loothunting content for that matter.
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The gunplay alone is what Destiny 2 brings to the table. No other game compares to it. Combine that with MMO elements such as dungeons, raids, pvp, and a lot more activities and you have a game on PC where nothing else compares to it.
 
Redshirt

Redshirt

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Strakt said:
Off of what facts?

I have played every blizzard game, and I'm interested in it so therefore your statement is pretty much wrong. I also know a ton of people who solely play WoW overwatch and d3 who are also interested in it. Not saying it should rely on blizzard's fanbase, but this is the perfect type of game to put on battle.net.
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Yeah. My bad. I should have rolled up here with facts. You clearly have your finger on the pulse of Blizzard fans.
 
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AnathemicOne

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Obliterator said:
Destiny is a shooter first and foremost not an MMO. And it's gunplay is spectacular. Also beautiful art style and visuals and very fun co-op content and that's all it needs to be a great game.

Why does it have to be the second coming of Jesus Christ to merit being excited over?
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Because it's being put up against Blizzard titles by being on the Battle.Net client. I wouldn't have issue with the game if it were up to Blizzard quality, but let's see we have

- Peer to Peer connection/lack of dedicated servers
- Mediocre MMO content
- Medicore loothunting content
- What is the story/narrative again?
- Decline of sales from its predecessor
- Horrid cosmetic microtransactions

So not Blizzard quality, yet its being part of the Blizzard roster by virtue on being on Blizzard's game client. But we have gunplay, which I'll admit Bungie knows gunplay. Why wasn't it a pure FPS again?
 
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Tater

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hamchan said:
I was patient enough to wait for the PC version but I do feel the hype is falling now that we're out of the zeitgeist of the console release.
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Yeah, I ended up picking up an NVidia key a couple weeks ago, and now I'm sorting of regretting it. I mean, it looks fun, but the hype has worn off and I haven't even played it yet! I might be busy with Mario, Wolfenstein, or another new release.

Oh well, it'll still be fun, but there is something exciting about picking it up with everyone else.
 
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Obliterator

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AnathemicOne said:
Because it's being put up against Blizzard titles by being on the Battle.Net client. I wouldn't have issue with the game if it were up to Blizzard quality, but let's see we have

- Peer to Peer connection/lack of dedicated servers
- Mediocre MMO content
- Medicore loothunting content
- What is the story/narrative again?
- Decline of sales from its predecessor
- Horrid cosmetic microtransactions

So not Blizzard quality, yet its being part of the Blizzard roster by virtue on being on Blizzard's game client. But we have gunplay, which I'll admit Bungie knows gunplay. Why wasn't it a pure FPS again?
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I play every current modern Blizzard game and Destiny more than holds its own in quality with any of them.

It isn't out of place on the Blizzard Store
 
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Strakt

Member
AnathemicOne said:
Because it's being put up against Blizzard titles by being on the Battle.Net client. I wouldn't have issue with the game if it were up to Blizzard quality, but let's see we have

- Peer to Peer connection/lack of dedicated servers
- Mediocre MMO content
- Medicore loothunting content
- What is the story/narrative again?
- Decline of sales from its predecessor

So not Blizzard quality, yet its being part of the Blizzard roster by virtue on being on Blizzard's game client. But we have gunplay, which I'll admit Bungie knows gunplay. Why wasn't it a pure FPS again?
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