TumblingHippo
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No matter what happens NFL-career wise, I still feel like Kaepernick is pretty much immortalized at this point. It definitely matters. I want to see him in halls of fame for the rest of the NFL's life.
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Trump takes shots at Kaepernick, Get that son of a bitch off the field
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No matter what happens NFL-career wise, I still feel like Kaepernick is pretty much immortalized at this point. It definitely matters. I want to see him in halls of fame for the rest of the NFL's life.
More_Badass
Member
Ugh, my dad brings up WW2 and these knuckleheads werent facing Japanese and Nazi machineguns to dismiss and criticize the players kneeling as disrespectful and stupid
Like...what? What the fuck does that have to do with this, today, now?
Like...what? What the fuck does that have to do with this, today, now?
It's what i said earlier in the thread. Some of them were going to do it, perhaps a sizeable number, but either Tomlin or Rooney realized the shitshow that would create in Pennsyltucky. Stuck between their fans and their players, they took a solution that's going to end up pissing off the fans even more than if they had let things roll like normal.
Exactly. It's gonna be quite a sight regardless of his intent.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Tomlin ain't shit I guess.
Also I wonder if the NFL owner move in the past to block Trump getting a seat at their table via the USFL was the Hitler getting kicked out of art school moment in history.
Also I wonder if the NFL owner move in the past to block Trump getting a seat at their table via the USFL was the Hitler getting kicked out of art school moment in history.
It would definitely raise even more awareness for the issue, and that's good, but I think at most Tomlin is a useful idiot here, he did it for the wrong reasons, it's an attempt to prevent these type of demonstrations. I think that's an important point to remember, even if that attempt backfires.
Random twitter post I came across:
Brennan Gilmore‏ @brennanmgilmore
My grandpa is a 97 year-old WWII vet & Missouri farmer who wanted to join w/ those who #TakeaKnee: "those kids have every right to protest."
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Did your father serve in WWII? Cause this guy did:
https://twitter.com/brennanmgilmore/status/911960316220764160
EDIT: Ha, just beaten by GK86!
minor effort
Banned
We're still dealing with nazis on the streets today. Heck, we're still dealing with the civil war today.
RPGCrazied
Member
So far I think the Jaguars have done the best so far. Most of them knelt with arms linked at their game in London.
TheCochese
Banned
I cannot wait to piss on that man's grave.
Lol STILL gloating over the election, since everything else since then has been an embarrassing failure.
MugiwaraCole
Member
No. It's not.
Teams never used to be on the field for the anthem. We started doing it this way in like 2010. It's not the definite grand gesture people are assuming it is. It could just be a "we're gonna appear neutral on this thing" move made to prevent any Steelers players from actually participating in the chosen method of protest.
I fucking told you. Y'all are giving these NFL teams way too much credit.
That is actually really sweet.
Rumblebones
Banned
Funny thing is, this is just gonna piss off flag worshippers anyway, and by claiming he's doing this to protect the players from the burden of having to make a choice, he's just tipping his hand: a substantial number of Steelers were going to take a knee.
Literally the only time I ever hear conservatives talking about honouring veterans is when they need a patriotic strawman. The rest of the time they're ignored.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
It's not, but a lot of fans will view it as a form of protest rather than realize players used to never be out there.
The NFL administration is a joke, no doubt about it, but we can at least applaud the players for this today.
RPGCrazied
Member
Even the team's owner participated. Probably will be the only one.
That's what I thought too but if you search them here they seem pretty Republican-leaning
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...political-donations-where-does-their-money-go
Shadow Puppetry
Member
Omg, he stole that from his idiotic Minions lol
Haloid1177
Banned
I feel like the Steelers staying in the locker room is a stronger message than a knee honestly. The logic Tomlin used is shit but the actual act is more that Id expect.
MugiwaraCole
Member
No fan is going to view it as a form of protest. Especially given the statement. This wasn't something the players did. If anything, some of them wanted to protest and the higher ups said "nah, fuck that". This was the result.
KernelPanic
Member
He probably needs more money for his legal defense fund.
In fact this whole thing may be a distraction from it.
TheCochese
Banned
I'm viewing it as a protest.
Anyway, if Trump and Co aren't going anywhere, why are they begging for money for their legal defense fund?
I was reading about all this last night.
Trumps enemies are so ridiculous.
Rosie ODonnell
The NFL
Miss Universe
Muslim War Heros Dad
Kim Jong Un
You're giving the average fan way too much credit.
Because he doesn't want to reference a more recent war like, say, Vietnam, where suddenly protests become more relevant and the delineation between good and bad for America gets alot more fuzzy. And almost nobody in that stadium or watching the game faced the situation he's describing at this point.
seventynine
Member
Take a shit on his Hollywood Star. 💩
LMAO, they've got nothing but old people Facebook memes at this point.
TheCochese
Banned
Nah, he bought that.
I plan on taking away the only thing he'll ever legitimately earn in life: eternal peace.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Except you can't. It is objectively not one. They told us, clear as day, "we did this to prevent anyone getting to protest".
I don't care how many stupid NFL fans look at this and get offended. The intent of the Steelers organization was to prevent their players getting to make their voices heard. They told us so themselves. Do not lose sight of that.
More_Badass
Member
Its so damn hypocritical that they say this when conservatives and republicans were saying Obama wasn't their president for 8 years
Yeah, now we're coddling the Nazis and bringing them to the debate table.
BronsonLee
Member
It 100% is
Shit it wouldn't surprise me if he keeps going at the owners because he still holds a grudge for the NFL shirking him and the USFL failing bad
Except you can.
Not everyone is going to believe his statement lol thats why if this is wasn't suppose to be political he failed hard.
CanUKlehead
Member
Depending on how the ratings go, at this rate, teams will want to sign Kaep.
Edit: And too bad about the Steelers.
Edit: And too bad about the Steelers.
GoldenEye 007
Member
I think it's more damning that they wanted nothing to do with him in the 1980s and knew he was a shithead, but so many openly or privately support him as president.
TheCochese
Banned
Tomlin says stupid shit all the time. He tried to play dumb at tripping a Raven on the field.
I'll wait for someone who I can trust to say something.
mambadragon
Banned
This was probably pointed out, but a big element of this could be the city of Pittsburgh and its "demographics". Hopefully I'm just being cynical.
giant_frying_pan
Member
What are your dad's thoughts on Jesse Owens?
My parents are the same. It's fucking stupid.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
This is what all the white players should do. Make it clear (it's already clear to most people but there are lots of idiots) that they support the country on the whole and its military but that this is about inequality in this country and the horrible problems within the police.