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Hat in Time releases in 2 days, yet JonTron still seems to be in the game

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Kinsei

Banned
Why is this guy voicing characters in kickstarter games anyway? Honestly, Games for Breakfast should've seen this from a mile away and should've removed this guy's voice from the game long ago.

He was really popular on Youtube and loved 3D platformers. As a result companies like Playtonic and Gears for Breakfast used him to promote their game to a large audience.
 

Machina

Banned
How hard is not to have prejudice against others?

People say stupid shit. It's apart of the human experience. As long as we learn from it and atone for it that should be the end of it. It becomes a problem when you get shit heels like Pewdiepie who double and triple down on it.

I'm fairly sure Jontron made a video specifically to apologize for his comments.
 

Mael

Member
Yeah, but did they delete all of the code he ever wrote? It's not like John Tron is still working for Gears for Breakfast; the only difference is that in this case, his contract was temporary from the start.

I think it's ridiculous to expect a company to spend money and other resources redoing work just because of the views of a former employee / business partner.

You do realize that Google actually publicly communicated on this issue?
If the people who made Hat in Time said anything at all, you would have ground for your comparison.
As it is, it's a stupid whataboutism as unlike Google, we know that they don't have a problem with Jontron unlike Google with the sexist employee.
 
Shocker that the Josh Thomas, the Jon Tron sympathizer, is in favor of this and hates everyone here

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And he wonders why Nintendo blacklisted him
 

Mesoian

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Yeah, but did they delete all of the code he ever wrote? It's not like John Tron is still working for Gears for Breakfast; the only difference is that in this case, his contract was temporary from the start.

I think it's ridiculous to expect a company to spend money and other resources redoing work just because of the views of a former employee / business partner.

Ugh christ dude.

Even in the google scenario, his work was turned over to someone else to be completed after google took action against him. You don't have to undo all the work someone who gets fired does, you take action and a position against his way of thinking. Hell, considering this game has two voice tracks, the devs here lose nothing in removing JonTron from the game.

As I said before, it's up to them to figure out how to handle this moving forward, but they need to make a statement.

Shocker that the Josh Thomas, the Jon Tron sympathizer, is in favor of this and hates everyone here

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No wonder Nintendo cut ties with his ignorant ass

Won't someone please think of the racists?
 

KarmaCow

Member
I dearly hope a lot of people in this thread don't say something stupid in their lives then are forced to be held accountable for it for the rest of their days

Putting aside the absurdity of trying to spin pro-eugenics shit by the way of removing non-whites from the population as just "something stupid", JonTron has never really walked back what he said. At most he said he got confused in his "debate" with destiny and just went radio silent hoping for it blow over.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
I honestly thought they'd have removed him by now.

This game can go get fucked in a corner.
 

Fancolors

Member
People say stupid shit. It's apart of the human experience. As long as we learn from it and atone for it that should be the end of it. It becomes a problem when you get shit heels like Pewdiepie who double and triple down on it.

I'm fairly sure Jontron made a video specifically to apologize for his comments.
He did a video but at no point did he apologize for saying shit about black people
 
I really doubt that since he has mentioned in the past as well as tweeted that he isn't white.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JonTron
See "early life"

You don't have to identify as white to espouse white supremacist beliefs.

JonTron's greatest hits.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231957847&postcount=1442
To recap (and I'm sure this is not all of what JonTron said), JonTron said, in what he thought was perfectly fine for a debate:

- Foreigners dilute the gene pool
- Black crime in America is the same as in Africa (like, he fuckin' brought this up TWICE)
- Racial issues can be summed up via mixing different colors of paint
- Statistical data means nothing because Clinton lost the election
- Destiny wants to kill black people
- Black Lives Matter is a violent organization
- the richest black man commits more crimes than the poorest white man
- Tribalism is a valid theory
- Immigrants are destroying every single country they are let into
- America is gonna become Mexico
- Racism is over
- Muslims are organizing to make it seem like Christians are protesting abortion clinics

And Destiny didn't even fucking ask the most obvious fuckin' question: "If you're so concerned about immigrants, why do you keep bringing up blacks?"

But we already know you don't care about any of that or you wouldn't be breaking your back carrying water for his 'political beliefs.'
 
People say stupid shit. It's apart of the human experience. As long as we learn from it and atone for it that should be the end of it. It becomes a problem when you get shit heels like Pewdiepie who double and triple down on it.

I'm fairly sure Jontron made a video specifically to apologize for his comments.

His apology video was a, MSM is twisting what I say, non apology.

You also can't really apologize your way out of calling black people genetically inferior to whites.
 
Being a minority doesn't magically excuse him being a white supremacist or prove that he can't be one. I don't know what ethnicity you are, but let me tell you, non-white people can form all the same thoughts and sentences that white people can, believe it or don't. It is entirely possible for someone to hate their own ethnicity or a range that includes their own.
The argument was that minorities ruin the gene pool ie him. The guy doesn't seem to hate himself or his family. What little mentioned of them seems to be relatively positive rather than hateful. So that doesn't really make any sense...

All I did was point out how ridiculous this thread is and it's getting more and more obscene it's hilarious how out of control this is lmao
Hating on a game for one person who is briefly involved is ludicrous.
Unless this guy goes around murdering people and goes to hate rallies all day why even bother
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Some say not buying the game doesn't hurt gears for breakfast?
That's a straight up lie lmao how could that even make sense?
 

Mifec

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I'm really glad Godstiny had that stream talk with Jon "Rich blacks commit more crimes than poor whites" Tron and made him double down on all the racist shit he said.


You don't have to identify as white to espouse white supremacist beliefs.

JonTron's greatest hits.
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Toxi

Banned
I dearly hope a lot of people in this thread don't say something stupid in their lives then are forced to be held accountable for it for the rest of their days
"The rest of their days"? Jontron's racist shitfest happened this year.
The argument was that minorities ruin the gene pool ie him. The guy doesn't seem to hate himself or his family. What little mentioned of them seems to be relatively positive rather than hateful. So that doesn't really make any sense...
Congrats on realizing that before Jontron did.
 

Mesoian

Member
People say stupid shit. It's apart of the human experience. As long as we learn from it and atone for it that should be the end of it. It becomes a problem when you get shit heels like Pewdiepie who double and triple down on it.

I'm fairly sure Jontron made a video specifically to apologize for his comments.

But he ALSO tripled down on racist rhetoric.

He doesn't get a pass because he apologized.
 

linnu5

Member
I didn't know he was on this game.

I was really excited by it, sharing some videos and reviews with a friend today... and was going to get it day one. But not anymore. :(

Oh well...
 

Village

Member
I'm fairly sure Jontron made a video specifically to apologize for his comments.

He didn't

So now what? Please tell me, because he specifically said my race was ruining the gene pool of america. SO please inform me how he " made a mistake"
 

Rhete

Banned
I'm profoundly disappointed they decided to keep him in, but I backed the game like 4 years ago so of course I'm going to play it and try to ignore his character.

Talk of banning discussion over a single voice actor is kind of ridiculous, Code Name S.T.E.A.M. wasn't banned because of Adam Baldwin, and he was the main character.
 

L Thammy

Member
It always kind of baffles me how proud people are to not take moral stands on things.

Like, I understand that videogames are often an escapist hobby to begin with and sometimes it feels like the world is too complex and stressful. I understand if you just want to put everything that's going on in the world out of your mind and play games. I'm not going to judge you harshly on that.

But when people go "I'm able to enjoy games, too bad for all of you who have something flaring up in your conscience", I'm just like, okay? Do you actually think that's something worthy of respect? What are you even trying to accomplish by that?
 
Any particular mod that might be willing to help out, or is there a general mod contact one can PM?

While it would be useful, no, there isn't a generic mod contact AFAIK. Any mod you've seen on the Gaming side doing mod work is probably a start for your candidates thought, like Duckroll (I dunno if certain mods stick to specific places on the site with regards to duties)
 

L Thammy

Member
The argument was that minorities ruin the gene pool ie him. The guy doesn't seem to hate himself or his family. What little mentioned of them seems to be relatively positive rather than hateful. So that doesn't really make any sense...

All I did was point out how ridiculous this thread is and it's getting more and more obscene it's hilarious how out of control this is lmao
Hating on a game for one person who is briefly involved is ludicrous.
Unless this guy goes around murdering people and goes to hate rallies all day why even bother
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Some say not buying the game doesn't hurt gears for breakfast?
That's a straight up lie lmao how could that even make sense?

The argument was that minorities ruin the gene pool ie him. The guy doesn't seem to hate himself or his family

Tell me more.

 

Mesoian

Member
I'm profoundly disappointed they decided to keep him in, but I backed the game like 4 years ago so of course I'm going to play it and try to ignore his character.

Talk of banning discussion over a single voice actor is kind of ridiculous, Code Name S.T.E.A.M. wasn't banned because of Adam Baldwin, and he was the main character.

Real talk, had I known that I wouldn't have bought that game. Fuck Adam Baldwin
 
While it would be useful, no, there isn't a generic mod contact AFAIK. Any mod you've seen on the Gaming side doing mod work is probably a start for your candidates thought, like Duckroll (I dunno if certain mods stick to specific places on the site with regards to duties)

Shall PM then - ta.

A Hat In Time |OT| Only White Nations Aren't Allowed To Protect Their Culture

Any more OT title suggestions anyone? /s

The GAF whiners are in full force with this thread. I've been quoted on KotakuInAction. I've made it! I'm famous! :/
 

Shiggy

Member
Did the developer or Humble Bundle ever comment on this? Given all what he's said, they must have thought about it (or agree with it?).
 

mazillion

Member
The decision is pretty simple for me.

Buying this game is only going to help it gain more popularity and that contributes to giving JonTron more attention, status, & influence. I don't want kids following him because they heard he was in a video game.

I'm not supporting that.
 
Fucking hell, I was looking so forward to this game since it was announced YEARS ago. Had no idea about the JT thing.

I really didn’t want to have to, but I won’t be supporting if there’s no statement at the very least from the devs. 😞 Really hope I don’t have to miss out on this game because of this racist a-hole. Was looking so very forward to it.
 
It always kind of baffles me how proud people are to not take moral stands on things.

Like, I understand that videogames are often an escapist hobby to begin with and sometimes it feels like the world is too complex and stressful. I understand if you just want to put everything that's going on in the world out of your mind and play games. I'm not going to judge you harshly on that.

But when people go "I'm able to enjoy games, too bad for all of you who have something flaring up in your conscience", I'm just like, okay? Do you actually think that's something worthy of respect? What are you even trying to accomplish by that?

“You see, I’m able to separate the creator from the content, which means I’m more emotionally intelligent for being able to enjoy ANYTHING at all regardless of context or fine details.”
 
I believe the devs should definitely release a statement about this, even if it is too late to actually do anything about it.

That being said, people who decide to buy the game with the knowledge that JonTron is featured in it/what he's said, but solely for the fact they like the look of the game, should not be judged negatively for doing so.
 

Kinsei

Banned
Why is this guy noteworthy in any way? Is he a personality? Looking at his social media and YouTube he's a super unsuccessful one if he is. Glad I got to see Trump's fat face when I went to his twitter.

He used to be a really popular Nintendo Youtuber. Key word here is used to be. He got blacklisted by Nintendo and other Youtube channels because of his shit.
 
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