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Final Fantasy VII Remake shifts to internal dev under Mobius project leader
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TheJollyCorner
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"NOMURAAAAAAAAAAA!" Ito yells, voice echoing in the dimly lit basement. A rat stares at him with blank eyes.
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The shadowed rodent returns to its previous motion, testicles vibrating with each careful rub. The janitor weeps into the creative abyss. The faceless forum remains... waiting.
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The shadowed rodent returns to its previous motion, testicles vibrating with each careful rub. The janitor weeps into the creative abyss. The faceless forum remains... waiting.
But the best part of the Nomura games is the gameplay.
No one does Action RPG bosses quite like Nomura. Hell, even the current KH team doesn't seem to quite nail it. Not that their games are bad at all, but you can see a tiny difference in focus.
I must be in some crazy timeline if people want Nomura stories if they can only get one thing from him. I'd be fine with someone else writing the story, I'd be fine with someone else designing the characters (though I'd prefer to keep him on that, in order to have a consistent visual identity for his games), just give me boss fights like the ones in Kingdom Hearts II.
I doubt he designed all the boss fights.
AlexFlame116
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Final Fantasy XV: Turn off the Noctis.
legacyzero
Banned
Id be cool if Tabata took on 7R. Id rather have him than Nomura
NoctisVsStar
Member
Nomura is going to deliver that much I believe, next year is just the start.
Ps: Keep Tabata away and his bland style.
Ps: Keep Tabata away and his bland style.
exmachina64
Banned
Nah, he did everything by hand.
fixed
AlexFlame116
Member
And it will all be Tabata's fault like always.
NoctisVsStar
Member
By bland style I mean his combat and lack of story.. besides that blockbuster was done by the pieces left by Nomura characters, world and everything.. which of course he butchered.
Let's see how Tabata does with his next IP.
He could right the countless wrongs of the decade though... And make TWEWY 2What's weird is there are a ton of games he's headed that have had smooth development and turned out great. It's just Versus, and maybe KH3, and maybe FFVIIr...yeah he's had a bad decade
AlexFlame116
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Wait are people thinking that KHIII is gonna turn out bad or something?
Moon Presence
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Nomura just can't ship a game. What a legend
He'll be forced to ship KH3 next year so that's one!
He seems to be a very hands on director whenever he's able to (so not in KH III's case). Probably not designed all of them himself, but his influence is clear when you consider no other game offers the same experience. Even other Square-Enix Action RPGs.
BossDarkseid
Member
Turn out bad/turn out at all.
I know Nomura has shipped games in the last decade but after v13 and VIIR it feels a bit like "Why can't things ever go smoothly"...like if v13 was as a result of mismanagement by SE higher ups transferring resources to XIII and later XIV etc it feels like VIIR was rushed into rather than planned out.
Although personally when he says "We've worked out the date when we will next reveal details" it feels oh so familiar. I don't think anyone is really expecting KH3 to be bad - it'll be a good game and a good KH game - but its just "When is it going to come out..."
NoctisVsStar
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That's how SE operates, does a fancy trailer (everyone assumes the game has a year or two in dev) when in reality they haven't started lol they just announce shit early to drive up the console install base.
You bought a PS3 for a game that wasn't announced for it?
GhostTrick
Banned
Graphics Horse
Member
To be fair they probably put as much work into this as they have for the real game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8cYrGG220
That's like buying a PS2 for an FFVIII remake because of a tech demo. Y'all are weird.
GhostTrick
Banned
That's like buying a PS2 for an FFVIII remake because of a tech demo. Y'all are weird.
That's called being young
I was 12 years old when this was unveiled.
SoundofSilence
Member
Totally disagree. CC2 has been a consistently fantastic developer for a very long time.
There's final fantasy 6 tech demo for N64
https://youtu.be/yYKjZS7Wo7Q
I think after the ff7 tech demo they decided to stop giving people heart attacks And more false Hope.
https://youtu.be/yYKjZS7Wo7Q
I think after the ff7 tech demo they decided to stop giving people heart attacks And more false Hope.
AlexFlame116
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I was a younger guy who lived with my family. We couldn't afford paying the internet prices back then so I had no connection to places like GAF and such. The only gaming news I had was from a magazine called EGM. Around the release of the PS3 they were doing an article showing the upcoming PS3 and Wii games.
Two games that they had listed under upcoming were Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Final Fantasy VII PS3 Edition. Even though they said that the E3 video was a tech demo, they also said that Square Enix was rapidly working on releasing it as soon as possible.
So yes I bought a PS3 for that "tech demo" and for Versus. Do I regret buying a PS3? Heck no. It was an awesome system that introduced me to games like Metal Gear Solid and Uncharted. But I was an impressionable little guy who took the remake words at face value.
So forgive me for buying something cause I believed a tech demo was a preview for a remake.
I'm glad they didn't do the remake then though. Cause now we have a much better looking on coming to PS4 or 5.
Two games that they had listed under upcoming were Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Final Fantasy VII PS3 Edition. Even though they said that the E3 video was a tech demo, they also said that Square Enix was rapidly working on releasing it as soon as possible.
So yes I bought a PS3 for that "tech demo" and for Versus. Do I regret buying a PS3? Heck no. It was an awesome system that introduced me to games like Metal Gear Solid and Uncharted. But I was an impressionable little guy who took the remake words at face value.
So forgive me for buying something cause I believed a tech demo was a preview for a remake.
I'm glad they didn't do the remake then though. Cause now we have a much better looking on coming to PS4 or 5.
I can't think of a quality game I've played made by CC2 tbh.
.Hack was decent but that's all it was, just decent.
Those models actually look like something out of FFX.
Well at least the lead battle planner from KH is working on FF7. I'm sure he (or his team) had something to do with them too.
No. Thats how they used to operate untill Nomura screwed the pooch on VS. They now use the Live Letter/Active Time Report system.
Nomura doesnt deserve all the hate he is getting, but damn he shouldve been fired for his horrible management of the VS project, and he would have been if he was in any other industry.
NoctisVsStar
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You mean when SE fucked up FF14? And took all the resources? Plus let's not forget the transition to HD wasn't kind to them last gen.
*looks at Agni's Philosophy*
funkystudent
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Didn't Versus mostly get screwed by everyone being put on XIII and then later on rebuilding XIV?
I wonder how different things could have been if FF14 launched good the first time. TBH I kinda think SE needed that slap in the face too but it seemed to become a massive, unexpected resource sink that effected everything they had planned.
I don't think you can blame Nomura entirely for what happened with Versus. They had to halt development to work on the company's other projects. It always seemed like Versus was a mainline FF title without mainline title resources and focus.
Doesn't really seem like Square-Enix are focused on actually developing FFVII Remake either. Nomura stated that they need to hire more people. Meanwhile, they've got other teams working on FFXV multiplayer DLC... I don't understand. Maybe duckroll can explain that one to me.
For sure. VII Remake will be so good, if it ever comes out.
CGwizz
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I like all people acts like they even know wtf hapened with VS. Its like they worked for square and know the all the reasons and detail and blame it all on Nomura.
I prefer to wait 10 years than they put a mediocre director like tabata and butcher ff7 story. Tabata needs to stay the fuck away from final fantasy. He already proved the quality of his games with ff15 and type zero.
I prefer to wait 10 years than they put a mediocre director like tabata and butcher ff7 story. Tabata needs to stay the fuck away from final fantasy. He already proved the quality of his games with ff15 and type zero.
There's no way that Final Fantasy VIIr isn't the biggest (japanese) project of SE at the moment
The company knows that this game will sell more than XV sold or what XVI will sell
Graphics Horse
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They just adapted into doing it for their main games instead of tech demo remakes.
If you're willing to wait 10 years anyway, why not just skip Tabata's games instead of wishing he never makes another? It's not like Tabata and Nomura even work in the same divisions within S-E.
It wasnt just SE fucking up XIV, it was Tanaka and his horrid decisions. Through SE allowed it, they ate partially to blame. But the fact is SE realized where the problem was (Tanaka) and rectified it with Yoshida. Nomura shouldve been further along and had more than a few scattered ideas that would make a trailer to where if people had to be taken off his team it wouldnt hurt the project as you are implying it did.
SureSE needed a slap in the face. The way they were going about it was horrible in the HD era and it seems that they have all learned their lessons.....except fir Nomura. I mean they rebuilt XIV to be a major success, (in HD) Taro got several games out with a budget that just consisted of pocket lint, and Tabata made a game out of a smorgasbord of half baked ideas and designs and got it out in 3-4 years. But Nomura is showing that he has not learned a damn thing about his time managing the VS projecthe is doomg the exact same damn thing with VIIR!
How can you tell if a company is focused on a project more or not? And why isnt Nomura taking the initiative, like the other directors and producers and dound a live letter/ATR or what ever Taro did? Nomura is just waving off that he has nothing of substance by saying hell get yelled at. Thats as much as a non answer as you can get
It's impossible to tell if it will sell more than XVI will. We know absolutely nothing about that game.
Immensely looking forward to that announcement. We haven't had a mainline game announced that wasn't an MMO, sequel, remake or a rehash in over 10 years (!!).
Doesn't feel like it is though. They had CC2 of all devs working on it. Like, their biggest game being outsourced doesn't ring alarm bells?
OK, so it's back to being an internal project. Why does the team lack console developers in a massive company with multiple divisions? Do they really see it as their biggest project?
XIII doesn't count because...?
Announced in 2006. So it does count.
I remember being so excited for that game. Great trailer. I want to feel that kind of excitement again.
LoL i forgot that one
Death Penalty
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You're right about this, several of Nomura's coworkers have commented on his perfectionism and CyberConnect made comments regarding the VIIR trailer that suggested it was a very difficult task making it look like Nomura wanted it to look. He seems to have an extremely clear vision for the games he and his team are creating, and it sounds like he'll pursue that vision at the expense of almost everything else.
Which you know, admittedly isn't always the correct decision.