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[BTA]

Which would probably not lead to a good game. The meta commentary in V3 was barely pulled off, I don't think they'd be wise to double down on it when I doubt they could execute on it.

I'd say they should scrap it and make a new continuity, but they've kind of burned that bridge too. There's not really a good reason to make another Danganronpa besides that it's a popular franchise, they've pretty much stretched the concept as far as it can go.

In this respect I'm kinda disappointed that "New" Danganronpa wasn't... that original?

If you're defining Danganronpa as "a 6 chapter game with free time and class trials with these mini games", it's pretty limiting and this was more or less their big chance to break from that. They didn't, and so a Danganronpa 4 isn't likely to break from it either, and that's going to make it hard do anything worthwhile.

 

[FStubbs]

In this respect I'm kinda disappointed that "New" Danganronpa wasn't... that original?

If you're defining Danganronpa as "a 6 chapter game with free time and class trials with these mini games", it's pretty limiting and this was more or less their big chance to break from that. They didn't, and so a Danganronpa 4 isn't likely to break from it either, and that's going to make it hard do anything worthwhile.

The thing is ....

They literally can't even call it "Danganronpa 4" anymore.

If they did another Danganronpa they'd have to seriously shake the formula up. Probably best to create a new mystery type game.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

Kodaka himself stated that he would love another lead writer to work on a new one. I heard the Japanese audience wanted a game that followed Rantaro's own killing game. Speaking of Rantaro, he was pretty enigmatic and very interesting but I feel his potential was also wasted by having him be a chapter 1 death. Another issue I have with chapter 1 really. But I'd be very sad if this was the last traditional detective story DR game.

 

[Brock Reiher]

Kodaka himself stated that he would love another lead writer to work on a new one. I heard the Japanese audience wanted a game that followed Rantaro's own killing game. Speaking of Rantaro, he was pretty enigmatic and very interesting but I feel his potential was also wasted by having him be a chapter 1 death. Another issue I have with chapter 1 really. But I'd be very sad if this was the last traditional detective story DR game.

That would be super boring unless it was like a quick light novel or mini series. We already know the twist, the main characters, and what happens at the end.

And I think him being an interesting character who dies way too soon is the point

 

[Grexeno]

That would be super boring unless it was like a quick light novel or mini series. We already know the twist, the main characters, and what happens at the end.

And I think him being an interesting character who dies way too soon is the point

If they did that, they should probably really go for a tragedy feel.

 

[Brock Reiher]

If they did that, they should probably really go for a tragedy feel.

It would for sure be an interesting side story. But like... if you decide to make another full fledged Danganronpa game (they shouldn't) and you have 53 killing games worth of history and you pick the only one we already know the situation for...? Wouldn't be into it.

Can we talk about how worth the wait Keebo was? Dudes one of the worst characters in the game up until almost the very end and everyone knows it, and then he suddenly becomes one of the coolest almost immediately.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Danganronpa 52 with Rantaro should absolutely be a light novel or manga and not a full game

 

[Basileus777]

Danganronpa 52 with Rantaro should absolutely be a light novel and not a full game

Yep. That's a trans-media spinoff not a new game.

 

[BTA]

At this point if they're going to make a game that's actually connected to the prior games I think I'd rather have an episodic fan disc sort of game. I think that could be reasonably interesting without having to deal with the issues of another game where it's not clearly connected or is it, etc. etc.

It would for sure be an interesting side story. But like... if you decide to make another full fledged Danganronpa game (they shouldn't) and you have 53 killing games worth of history and you pick the only one we already know the situation for...? Wouldn't be into it.

Can we talk about how worth the wait Keebo was? Dudes one of the worst characters in the game up until almost the very end and everyone knows it, and then he suddenly becomes one of the coolest almost immediately.

Speak for yourself. I always loved Keebo and his facial expressions in particular were always hilarious to me.

 

[Brock Reiher]

At this point if they're going to make a game that's actually connected to the prior games I think I'd rather have an episodic fan disc sort of game. I think that could be reasonably interesting without having to deal with the issues of another game where it's not clearly connected or is it, etc. etc.

Speak for yourself. I always loved Keebo and his facial expressions in particular were always hilarious to me.

But he's such a lame dweeb lol

Worth the wait for sure tho

I guess Keebo's backstory was real?

 

[Hideki Kamiya]

Since this is the last Danganronpa, maybe the series will continue but each entry will be in between Danganronpa 2 and 53? Kind of like every Street Fighter entry after SF3.
I love how the audience members, through Keebo, were voicing their preference for Kaede. Shuichi is definitely the worst protagonist in DG history. He wasn't memorable in the slightest, he felt so empty compared to Makoto and Hajime.

There's honestly no point. Remember, Team Danganronpa is already working on a new game as well.

I'M STILL HOLDING MY THEORY that Zanki Zero is a sequel to V3, and Zanki Zero will be the new cool "thing" for the outside world to enjoy.

SCREENCAP THIS!!

 

[BTA]

But he's such a lame dweeb lol

Worth the wait for sure tho

I guess Keebo's backstory was real?

...is there a member of the cast that isn't a dweeb, really?

Which is to say I don't see how that's a bad thing.

 

[Basileus777]

Can we talk about how worth the wait Keebo was? Dudes one of the worst characters in the game up until almost the very end and everyone knows it, and then he suddenly becomes one of the coolest almost immediately.

Well he was a non-entity for most of the game. But that's inevitable when you have a cast of 16+ characters. Maybe they should have used the time devoted to the monokubs to actual meaningful characters.

 

[LiK]

Using Keebo so prominently on the box art def made me kinda suspect he would be one of the last people in the story. I did like that he sacrificed himself and saved the survivors from doom. Although I’m not sure why they made him such a loser in the majority of the game. He was constantly bullied.

 

[CielTynave]

Part of me thinks that the Monokubs were only around so much just to divert attention away from Monokuma just because he has a new voice actor in the Japanese version, he also barely had any line in the anime too. It seems kind of silly but Japan takes their voices acting stuff seriously to an almost absurd degree.

 

[LiK]

Man, wtf. I had like a 20+ combo and hit two Monodams and it gave me B max. What am I doing wrong with this Salmon fishing. Am I supposed to also bet a lot of coins to get S? I only have a grand right now.

 

[Suikoguy]

Playing the post game, and I can't help thinking "This whole backstory the character is telling me is made up".

But, all fiction is made up.

The twist, in a way, removes the suspension of disbelief we use subconsciously when consuming fiction. But, is it really all that different?

Aside from the other questions and issues the game explores, that one has stuck with me the most.

I'll post more thoughts later.

 

[Grexeno]

Part of me thinks that the Monokubs were only around so much just to divert attention away from Monokuma just because he has a new voice actor in the Japanese version, he also barely had any line in the anime too. It seems kind of silly but Japan takes their voices acting stuff seriously to an almost absurd degree.

I honestly thought that too.

 

[GoldStarz]

The thing is ....

They literally can't even call it "Danganronpa 4" anymore. .

Why? They can literally just set it in a different universe where the title is based off of the number of DanganRonpa games that have been released here, not where it's the 54th Killing Game or some shit. Are all of you really this bad at wrapping your heads around meta concept like this?

 

[Haganeren]

Why? They can literally just set it in a different universe where the title is based off of the number of DanganRonpa games that have been released here, not where it's the 54th Killing Game or some shit. Are all of you really this bad at wrapping your heads around meta concept like this?

That would undermine the experience we had with V3, i don't think they will do that.
I think the best solution is to not number Danganronpa. Only having a subtitle is more elegant.

 

[thequickandthedead]

Just recently finished the game. So is the majority view that Tsumugi faked the audition videos?

 

[Poltergust]

The twist, in a way, removes the suspension of disbelief we use subconsciously when consuming fiction. But, is it really all that different?

It does to me, which is why I'm not bothering with the side modes. Even if I just wanted to focus on the gameplay aspect, there are plenty of other games I'd rather be playing.

Just recently finished the game. So is the majority view that Tsumugi faked the audition videos?

That's what I think, but there's no way of knowing for sure.

 

[LiK]

Just recently finished the game. So is the majority view that Tsumugi faked the audition videos?

We don't know for sure but I think it's possible considering they could just use the Flashback Lights and make them say that shit.

 

[Jeffrey]

So... Despair girls 2? I didn't hate the first one really. More of the analog sticks weren't amazing on vita and the low framerate. Wonder if it was better on ps4?



Anyone else totally predict maki wasnt gonna die? She gave me a kinda kirigiri vibe in terms of character design, of serious 'normal lookingish' assertive girl. Just had the gut feeling that she'd live for a bit lol.


Rantaro... A bit confused so he won the last trial but personally decided to do a killing game again? They made it seem like the punishment for losing the final trial is being thrown back into the next season.

 

[LiK]

Yea, Maki was totally Kyoko from DR1. She was just kinda there and didn't become important to the story until much later. They did a pretty good job with her. Had no clue Kaito, Maki and Shuichi would become the trio judging from the beginning.

 

[QuadOpto]

I dont't see why people would assume the audition tapes are fake. There wouldn't really be much of a point, and it is definitely true that they come from a world that loved Killing Games. The insistence that this is something the cast wanted is mentioned throughout the game.

Playing through the prologue again you can also see a bit of the original personalities show through. Kaede's more curt to Shuichi and comments how the kidnapping "made her realize how rotten the world really is".

Their initial surprise to being kidnapped could easily be explained by Team Danganronpa not giving any warnings or confirmation that they've been selected. The characters also seem to piece things together without much surprise or apprehension before their minds are wiped.

 

[LiK]

It's a lie.

 

[RRockman]

I dont't see why people would assume the audition tapes are fake. There wouldn't really be much of a point, and it is definitely true that they come from a world that loved Killing Games. The insistence that this is something the cast wanted is mentioned throughout the game.

Playing through the prologue again you can also see a bit of the original personalities show through. Kaede's more curt to Shuichi and comments how the kidnapping "made her realize how rotten the world really is".

Their initial surprise to being kidnapped could easily be explained by Team Danganronpa not giving any warnings or confirmation that they've been selected. The characters also seem to piece things together without much surprise or apprehension before their minds are wiped.

My issue here is that they come at such a convenient time for the master mind and she doesnt show anyone elses. It's super shady.

 

[PK Gaming]

Anyone else totally predict maki wasnt gonna die? She gave me a kinda kirigiri vibe in terms of character design, of serious 'normal lookingish' assertive girl. Just had the gut feeling that she'd live for a bit lol.

I wouldn't call it prediction when the game made it abundantly clear that she was going to make it to the end; she's a ridiculously safe character.

I think that's one of the game's biggest issue. It's too predictable.

• Kaede being a decoy protagonist was predictable (though many of us were in denial)
• Kirumi and Kiyo were obvious culprits
• Angie and Miu were obvious victims
• The minute the game established Tenko's dynamic with Himiko, I knew I had to prepare the shovel in advance
• Kokichi was going to get a redemptive death
• Tsumigi's overt blandness made her comically suspicious

It's just such a huge contrast from 1 and 2 where you'd go into a chapter and tense up over the next potential victim (DR2 Chapter 5 is still peak DR in that regard).

V3 overplays its hands by making the main players of the next chapter stand out too much.

 

[Razmos]

I'd just like to say that (JP) Monophanies puking sound is hilarious.
"Peroperoperopero"

 

[Funyarinpa]

I wouldn't call it prediction when the game made it abundantly clear that she was going to make it to the end; she's a ridiculously safe character.

I think that's one of the game's biggest issue. It's too predictable.

• Kaede being a decoy protagonist was predictable (though many of us were in denial)
• Kirumi and Kiyo were obvious culprits
• Angie and Miu were obvious victims
• The minute the game established Tenko's dynamic with Himiko, I knew I had to prepare the shovel in advance
• Kokichi was going to get a redemptive death
• Tsumigi's overt blandness made her comically suspicious

It's just such a huge contrast from 1 and 2 where you'd go into a chapter and tense up over the next potential victim (DR2 Chapter 5 is still peak DR in that regard).

V3 overplays its hands by making the main players of the next chapter stand out too much.

I agrew with much of this.

 

[LiK]

I did not see Kaede being a decoy at all and I'm grateful for it. They did a lot of really fool you with the ability to already start relationships etc. Loved that twist. I'm glad the Prologue and Chapter 1 built her up so much.

 

[Jeffrey]

I still argue that kaede would have made a more interesting lead. A beaming girl that is slowly corrupted by despair each trial.

She's too good for this universe, which would have made a good character development. Vs... Detective dude with the strangest jp VA lol. It's like they were auditioning for the most pathetic sounding voice they could find lol. English one is better imo.

I'm still confused why no one tried to kill suichi. Same with the lead in every game. Everyone else is stupid. Kill the Mc and you'd win!

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

I'm still confused why no one tried to kill suichi. Same with the lead in every game. Everyone else is stupid. Kill the Mc and you'd win!

Junko tried to stab Naegi and then cheated to try and execute him

 

[Raytow]

She's too good for this universe, which would have made a good character development. Vs... Detective dude with the strangest jp VA lol. It's like they were auditioning for the most pathetic sounding voice they could find lol. English one is better imo.

Hating on the goddess Megumi, ffs.

 

[Jeffrey]

Junko tried to stab Naegi and then cheated to try and execute him

I barely remember the first game... I remember playing it when the psp fan translation came out lol.

Wonder if it's worth replaying?

Need the time...

 

[LiK]

I barely remember the first game... I remember playing it when the psp fan translation came out lol.

Wonder if it's worth replaying?

Need the time...

The English dub was damn good. Hina and Celestria were standouts.

 

[Lusankya]

I'm still confused why no one tried to kill suichi. Same with the lead in every game. Everyone else is stupid. Kill the Mc and you'd win!

Kaede only wanted to kill the mastermind.
Kirumi thought Ryoma was the best target as he already lost his will to live.
Korekiyo was only interested in girls.
Miu hated Kokichi and wanted to kill him because of that.
Kaito had no choice and wouldn't have killed his friend anyways.


So, no one had a reason to kill Shuichi.

 

[Geg]

Using Keebo so prominently on the box art def made me kinda suspect he would be one of the last people in the story. I did like that he sacrificed himself and saved the survivors from doom. Although I’m not sure why they made him such a loser in the majority of the game. He was constantly bullied.

After finishing the first trial I thought a bit about Keebo and how prominent he was in promotional images and figured they were just being misleading again and that in the end he would be just another regular member of the cast and die in the third or fourth case or something lol

 

[Haganeren]

Miu hated Kokichi and wanted to kill him because of that.

What ? There is nothing that imply that in the game. Sure Kokichi insults her but having her hating him for that would be so strange even if we all know she actually have an inferiority complex. To be honest, Miu motivations were really really weak, i don't understand her at all which i find it quite bad. Someone answered me about that earlier " I think the pressure probably got to Miu and she say that as her one chance that wouldn't be tied directly to her. " But hey, even that i don't buy it, she didn't seems like the kind of character who would do that on a whim. There is no moment where the pressure seemed to get her and she was already suspicious since the Virtual Reality set was her idea so uh yeah...

Strange...

 

[Geg]

I do remember Miu started to act a bit more eccentric around the start of the fourth chapter. I remember there was one point where she says something along the lines of "I'll make you all regret this" though I don't remember it exactly

 

[BlueBadger]

So, no one had a reason to kill Shuichi.

Realistically, every potential killer had a reason to kill him, as the person who was the brain power at every class trial. Kill him, and they have a better chance of dodging suspicion at the trial.

The issue is that the potential costs outweigh the potential benefits. Killing a detective that has an abundance of knowledge in crime wouldn't be easy to execute successfully at all, compared to killing someone like Ryoma who had almost no will to live

 

[LiK]

Miu was incredible. She invented all those amazing gadgets. If only they had more Electrobombs, lol

 

[BlueBadger]

Miu was incredible. She invented all those amazing gadgets. If only they had more Electrobombs, lol

She was easily one of my favourite characters in the entire series. So fucking funny I couldn't even handle it. And easily one of the most useful characters in the game, even after her death.

That one scene with her and Keebo was fucking weird though lmao

 

[Cell_Biology]

After finishing this game, I might go and finish the spinoff, Despair Girls. Anyone recommend it?

Really curious where the series will go now. I am moving on to Chaos;Child as my next visual novel to play.

 

[NSESN]

Well Tsumugi actually acomplished in killing the protagonist, she even wrote Shuichi the lead because she thought he would be no problem.
Before the last case Kokichi was a way bigger problem for her than Shuichi.

 

[LiK]

She was easily one of my favourite characters in the entire series. So fucking funny I couldn't even handle it. And easily one of the most useful characters in the game, even after her death.

That one scene with her and Keebo was fucking weird though lmao

Yea, Miu has a fetish for machinery and she loves it. Wouldn't be surprised if she fucked him when she was adding "functions" when he was offline.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Miu seems like an idiot savant who spends more time inventing useless garbage and tossing it instead of something actually useful. Like every time she does something useful people have to spend the time to convince her to make it because shes so inapproachable

After finishing this game, I might go and finish the spinoff, Despair Girls. Anyone recommend it?

Really curious where the series will go now. I am moving on to Chaos;Child as my next visual novel to play.

I like UDG more then others but still wouldn't really recommend it unless you need more Toko. Komaru is good to but the game generally sucks to play and the story isn't super great, just the dynamic between Toko and Komaru

 

[Geg]

Honestly Miu probably ended up being my least favorite character just because of how one-note she was and how her schtick stopped being funny to me after like the second trial. Even Tenko ended up getting some development right before her death, but Miu just felt one-note and flat to the end

 

[LiK]

Miu seems like an idiot savant who spends more time inventing useless garbage and tossing it instead of something actually useful.



I like UDG more then others but still wouldn't really recommend it unless you need more Toko. Komaru is good to but the game generally sucks to play and the story isn't super great, just the dynamic between Toko and Komaru

Yea, def worth playing for more Toko. Altho it was always a bit weird to like her since she's a well known serial killer.