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If Sony was to greenlight Bloodborne 2 without From, which studio would you prefer?
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Killer Queen
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At that point why not just make a whole new IP like From did with Demon's to Dark Souls. There's absolutely nothing holding them to Bloodborne in particular, so I don't see why fans are so dead set on it.
MasterMenace
Member
1st post in nailed it, we're done here boys and girls..
But From did work in DS2. Only Miyazaki didn't.
Most of the DS2 staff even worked on Bloodborne as well.
Fuck engaging with the premise of the thread!
old manatee
Banned
I wouldn't mind a Bloodborne 2 designed by Johnathan Blow that is more about walking around and contemplating.
I mean sure but thats essentially demon souls 2 without the name demon souls as both play almost identically and pretty much got a name change due to not hvaing the license to demon souls. At that point why even bother calling it something different when it would be a successor? And there is nothing holding them to BB, except a lot of money. And fans want it because theres a ton more they can do with that universe-both in terms of gameplay and story/lore. I don't see why fans are so against it.
lukeskymac
Member
Not Naughty Dog. It's just not their element.
Iva Demilcol
Member
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
RealityPales
Member
Not like this...
It'd be interesting to listen to both sides for once and defend the great ones' right to speak freely too as a lil' tentacle. I dig it.
privitsan02
Member
No one.
But if they really need someone to make a Bloodborne-like game, I'd say Team Ninja are a great shout after Nioh.
Best wishes.
But if they really need someone to make a Bloodborne-like game, I'd say Team Ninja are a great shout after Nioh.
Best wishes.
elshoelace
Member
This is my greatest gaming fear. My first reaction of course is no one, but since that isn't allowed then Team Ninja so it atleast will play nice.
Capcom's not a half bad idea. Not just for their experience with action gameplay; they also have a lot of experience with the horror aesthetic in the Resident Evil games. I sure as hell wouldn't take them over From, but in the event that From's not available, Capcom seems like a reasonable choice alongside Team Ninja.
In b4 "Capcom's the devil"
Yes! This image just made my day. I want a wallpaper of this.Hell yeah.
Team Ninja seems like the obvious choice. I don't feel the need for a BB sequel (even though it's a top 10 game for me), but I feel like Team Ninja wouldn't suck at it.
Director: Hideaki Itsuno
Writer/Co-director: Toby Fox
Studio: Capcom (either MH or DD team)
Engine: MT Framework
Composer: Motoi Sakuraba
Between Platinum and Capcom, I'd rather a theoretical Bloodborne 2 be closer to DD/MH than to typical Platinum hack n' slash. Ninja Theory is really mediocre when it comes to combat systems...
Writer/Co-director: Toby Fox
Studio: Capcom (either MH or DD team)
Engine: MT Framework
Composer: Motoi Sakuraba
Between Platinum and Capcom, I'd rather a theoretical Bloodborne 2 be closer to DD/MH than to typical Platinum hack n' slash. Ninja Theory is really mediocre when it comes to combat systems...
Beerman462
Member
Nintendo
Stupid question gets stupid answer
This actually sounds like it could work.
Snark aside, I've been thinking about this a lot a can't think of any studio at all that'd fit the bill without compromises. Team Ninja seems obvious at first but IMO they missed the mark in atmosphere and encounter design, both of which are essential to Bloodborne.
In general people seem to name a lot of studios that are good at making quality combat systems, but Bloodborne and Souls in general are far more than just that. Otherwise I'd just pick Platinum.
You joke, but this is another good pick, lol.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Why would I want ND to work on another company's IP when they've shown to make successful new IPs every single generation? Awful, awful choice.
Capcom would be my choice in terms of who could it.
Capcom would be my choice in terms of who could it.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I honestly refuse to even think about such an idea.
With that said. Yoko Taro. I want Yoko Taro racing games. Yoko Taro final fantasy. Yoko Taro Mario. Yoko Taro Zelda.
All of it. I just need to know.
With that said. Yoko Taro. I want Yoko Taro racing games. Yoko Taro final fantasy. Yoko Taro Mario. Yoko Taro Zelda.
All of it. I just need to know.
Killer Queen
Banned
Because From would own the IP and be able to make and distribute it whenever and however they like. Like with Dark Souls. And if you're going to deviate as far as you're suggesting, why continue to even hold on to the Bloodborne IP, especially when it isn't yours in the first place.
Dark Souls isn't really Demon's Souls 2, it's by definition a spiritual successor.
Fans are against it because the story there is pretty much done, in addition to From making very similar games from 2009 to 2017 and while I enjoyed all of them immensely (Never played Demons Souls) From should continue to evolve and branch out and do new things, which is exactly what they're doing currently.
Bloodborne is a great game, it got made, I'm glad it got made, I'm glad it exists. But that doesn't really mean they should continue down on that path just because. Bloodborne was particularly refreshing because it was new and different. Bloodborne 2 wouldn't be new and different, it would be Bloodborne 2. Which is fine but I'd rather continue to watch From flex their creative muscles and unleash all their crazy ideas on us, so we can have more games that while may not be like Bloodborne, are every bit as good.
I think fans are too caught up and closed minded when it comes to these things and this IP in particular. Be glad that you even got it at all and look forward to what else From plans to bring in the future, don't shackle yourself to one IP or series. and while the chances of a Fromsoft made Bloodborne 2 are incredibly slim by my understanding of the situation, From will be bringing plenty more ARPGs among other things in the future, so just sit tight and enjoy the ride.
Killer Queen
Banned
Bless this post. No thanks, I wouldn't want it from any other studio.
This too
NullPointer
Member
Miyazaki's currently the President of From, so...
Probably gonna sound pretentious here, but From is the master of aesthetics and atmosphere in this kind of game.
Other Soulslikes can put a fresh spin on the combat, death/rebirth mechanics, progression, etc. but imo no one can hold a candle to their world building and storytelling through environment and mood alone.
It sounds like you value that pretty highly, and if another studio was to take the themes of Bloodborne and run with them, it would probably end up a ham-fisted, tasteless mess.
Audioboxer
Member
Thread backfire because there really isn't anyone. It's just one of those things OP. Can't escape it.
If push came to shove I'd rather just see a 2D Bloodborne clone or something (Salt and Sanctuary 2, now with more Bloodborne) and leave the actual Bloodborne IP forever as 1 entry by From Software.
If push came to shove I'd rather just see a 2D Bloodborne clone or something (Salt and Sanctuary 2, now with more Bloodborne) and leave the actual Bloodborne IP forever as 1 entry by From Software.
Jawbreaker
Member
Fumito Ueda is a good candidate. : p
Killer Queen
Banned
This is pretty much why I can't get into any of the souls like games tbh outside of Nioh. There's something really really special about From's work when they're firing on all cylinders and why I'm so excited to see them continue to evolve and work on new things, especially with the the production values and ideas they had in the Ringed City with the angels, falling off the cliff into the cathedral, environment changing around you and the incredible end boss.
And I know I rag on Dark Souls 2 a lot, but I do enjoy the game quite a bit, and the only reason I'm so critical of it (admittedly to an unfair amount sometimes) is because of the standard From set with previous and later games. I wouldn't really ever want anyone but From touching these games.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
The Surge was a pretty damned good Bloodbornesque game.
I would feel pretty comfortable handing them the reigns.
Tye The Czar
Member
Team Ninja.
After all, they did Nioh.
After all, they did Nioh.
pretty done
Member
oh no
Son Of Sparda
Member
I don't worship FROM like some people do, but yeah I agree with posters who are saying that they just shouldn't do it without them.
No FROM = don't even bother
No FROM = don't even bother
But is Nioh proof that they're capable of recapturing the magic of the first Bloodborne while breaking new ground with a sequel?
Sure, Nioh proved they're still capable of delivering an engaging combat system worthy of a Ninja Gaiden game, but could they deliver design of levels, enemies, bosses and interesting world and lore on the same level of From and the Souls games? Nay, I says. NAY.
Inevitably, it will not be as good as Bloodborne. In which case, why even bother? Let Team Ninja and just about every other developer stick to what they do best, games that aren't Souls games.
Cheese and crackers, you people are bonkers with these suggestions. I'd rather Team Ninja make a half-assed Bloodborne then Naughty Dog doing...what the fuck ever they could possibly have to offer to a Souls game. Shit doesn't even make sense.
They'll probably introduce a second Hunter character where I'll be forced to listen to their dialogue I don't care about as we go through a slow walking sequence. Solve a puzzle or two and do quick time events as they yap and yap.
Barf
Nah. Giving it some more thought my choice must be Capcom now...
They have so much to offer and so many ways to answer Bloodborne in their own flavour. The day Capcom takes a stab at the Souls-like action games I'll be there day one. The day From Soft decides to try their hand on a Monster Hunter style game I'll be there day one too.
In terms of Nioh. I like Nioh a lot but I can't seem to give it the same sort of seal of approval that I would give to say MH or Souls games. The lack of enemy variety is probably the killer for me. I wasn't huge on its loot system either. Combat certainly carried it for me.
- Budget and name recognition.
- Experience in fighting games to bring to the table if PvP comes up.
- Experience in action games such as DMC and Monster Hunter, the latter which has years of experience in fighting large monsters in a similar way to Souls/Bloodborne with pattern recognition etc with multiple takes on camera solutions for the more jumpy/flying assholes. Stamina management and using items during combat is also something they've been doing for a long time.
- Enemy designs. Taking graphics and adapting to them to games is the easy part but making them behave and become something fun to fight yet intimidating to see and hear is something else. Capcom has shown they can do this in spades.
- Somewhat balanced weapons and weapon types that all feel good and offer something. They even have transforming weapons experience similar to trick weapons.
- They can bring in magic and third person archery that feels pretty fantastic.
- They have some interesting AI options for summons. The Pawns in Dragons Dogma would prioritize shooting down the harpy that lifts you up to lethal heights, they will try to catch you. They will help launch you upwards to grapple onto larger enemies or to hit enemy weakspots... They will set themselves on fire and run at enemies weak to fire... Imagine an ever respawning hunter setting himself on fire and letting the Bloodstarved Beast hug him for the team. This isn't Bloodborne but it is what a Bloodborne could be.
They have so much to offer and so many ways to answer Bloodborne in their own flavour. The day Capcom takes a stab at the Souls-like action games I'll be there day one. The day From Soft decides to try their hand on a Monster Hunter style game I'll be there day one too.
In terms of Nioh. I like Nioh a lot but I can't seem to give it the same sort of seal of approval that I would give to say MH or Souls games. The lack of enemy variety is probably the killer for me. I wasn't huge on its loot system either. Combat certainly carried it for me.
Honestly? Fuck it all, make a new development team and see what happens from there. I'm not sure who else of established developers I'd want doing Bloodborne 2 who wouldn't likely be busy with their own stuff, while it might be a good way to get a new developer out there with a fresher perspective. Even if they're a Sony first party.