Since they're not mentioned in the packs, I wonder if they are planning for a free update to add the villain characters to the roster.
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Fire Emblem Warriors DLC fully revealed
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Since they're not mentioned in the packs, I wonder if they are planning for a free update to add the villain characters to the roster.
Lights and Waves
Member
No fooling? I guess Awakening/Fates did even better than I thought.
Nocturnowl
Member
Random aside: I feel like the only person who as someone who enjoyed the heck out of the original Hyrule Warriors release thought that its DLC while good value on paper was basically a load of disappointment from a character choice perspective.
Another version of Link, another version of Midna and Tingle....yay?
The story villains added as free DLC were limited unless you sprung for the DLC as well.
While the overall expanded roster turned out great, that's mainly because of who they held back for Legends and the free Medli drop.
Another version of Link, another version of Midna and Tingle....yay?
The story villains added as free DLC were limited unless you sprung for the DLC as well.
While the overall expanded roster turned out great, that's mainly because of who they held back for Legends and the free Medli drop.
That's not saying the game did well but that their expectations were really low. We know the sales numbers of the game in Japan.
Rad Shadow
Banned
Ugh. Pass for now.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Yikes.
I wonder if there's some correlation that the kind of person who would buy in to a spin-off like this is a more hardcore log term fan of the series and so sticking with the roster of the recent games instead of a spread representing the history of the series is biting them in the ass?
Maybe they could salavage it a bit with Few legends adding more games like ww was for Hyrule warriors legends.
fredrancour
Member
Someone dug up sales numbers in a Japanese sales thread a few weeks ago. It's not really true. Other than wind waker HD bombing, Zelda outsells fire emblem by a fair bit in Japan too.
I know that is disappointing that NPCs are paid DLC, but everybody should stop jumping to conclusions. Also we are getting more in the DLC than just new playable characters. I'll probably get it when Olivia gets released.
Also, stop comparing it with HW, Fire Emblem has never been bigger than Zelda. The sales aren't great but are expected I think.
Also, stop comparing it with HW, Fire Emblem has never been bigger than Zelda. The sales aren't great but are expected I think.
No matter what they would have done, people were going to be unhappy with the roster. I would have been mad if they wouldn't have included Robin and wouldn't have picked up the game in that case. For that reason, I can understand where other folks are coming from. I just think they were in a losing situation the moment they decided to do a game like this considering the sheer number of characters that people like and there being no way for every character to be represented. It's cool that Tharja is coming at some point, but those who really want to get her can just wait until she comes out. Maybe the game will be cheaper then.
BuckRobotron
Member
Minerva is the only one that I even take note of there, not that I'm really into the dlc. Been watching the game as it comes out but been sitting comment out to see how the 3DS version fares. Fire Emblem fan, but no rush to play this. Eventually.
Heartskips
Banned
https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/ir/docs/ird6_20171010.pdf There is a link though. But to be honest, they're saying both Nioh and FEW will increase their profit forecast, so I'll give you that.
I just don't believe this game can be called a "bomba" already and probably won't be anyway.
theprodigy
Member
oops the followup that never happened was on the translation not the link lol
mullet2000
Member
I mean, I can only speak aniticdotally but the roster being so boring is pushing me away from the game, personally.
Meanwhile Fire Emblem Heroes is keeping my interest because they're hitting on every game in the series.
Vital Tundra
Member
Excuse me?
its kinda funny you say this of all days with ayragate going on.
Seyfert
Member
I thought those popular character (Eg: Ike, Roy, you name it) are saved for DLCs. but the list looks like joke. : (
I remembet Nintendo even have a character poll on series before launched gacha version, they should take note of that what popular character to be put in the game instead of just selected from late FE (which tbh i don't have much fond with them).
I remembet Nintendo even have a character poll on series before launched gacha version, they should take note of that what popular character to be put in the game instead of just selected from late FE (which tbh i don't have much fond with them).
I already caved on the game because while the roster leaves a lot to be desired the gameplay looks fun and a Fire Emblem based warriors game is what I've wanted for a while. Hell I would have taken a port of Hyrule Warriors and I already put a ton of time into that game.
However I'm not at all touching the DLC pass until I see how these new characters fight and what the other content is. I had no problem getting that pass for Hyrule Warriors. They're have to earn that extra money this time. They don't get the benefit of the doubt here on this.
However I'm not at all touching the DLC pass until I see how these new characters fight and what the other content is. I had no problem getting that pass for Hyrule Warriors. They're have to earn that extra money this time. They don't get the benefit of the doubt here on this.
So it's been a while since I played Awakening, but from what I remember Tharja was one of those characters who fade into irrelevance after the mission they're recruited and aren't plot relevant right? Am I missing some legit reason for her popularity? Or is it just straight boys being straight boys?
DecoReturns
Member
I've stopped with Heroes. What's going on?
SapphiCine
Member
Will it? Tharja audience will be more focused on her ass.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
man this DLC doesnt sound great, but I find it weird hearing Hyrule Warriors get proped up...the game that required you to buy the entire game a second time to get a new character.
just like most characters in fire emblem yes that happens in the main story. However Awakening and Fates have so many more support conversations to give the characters more time. Awakening generally did a really good job with its many support conversations, Fates didn't.
AlexFlame116
Member
Even though I'm not buying this game (I have my reason and it's not cause of the DLC), remember that Hyrule Warriors had a second season of DLC later on and it had some new characters from different entries so I'm sure that Fire Emblem Warriors will have a second season with characters from the older titles.
I think that there will be a complete edition like Legends was with the first season of characters.
I think that there will be a complete edition like Legends was with the first season of characters.
Thanks everyone for answering my question, I've only played a handful of these types of games. I also have low expectations of them, so I'm actually okay with what the game is offering, FE1, FE2, FE7, FE13, FE14 all having at least one character. I thought it would be a lot worse with only F13 and FE14 characters so I never had high hopes in the first place lol.
This is just straight up false.
That depends on how it sells though. Hyrule Warriors sold really well given the Wii U install base from what I remember. Then it got ported to the 3DS for even more sales. The 3DS version of FEW did even worse then the Switch version in Japan. If sales outside of Japan aren't decent then I doubt we see a second wave given it would likely have to be original content. Assuming there aren't more npcs for them to use in the base game.
The banner that started this week added in Genealogy of a Holy War characters, along with the current Grand Hero Battle, though the Paralogue missions themselves had you fighting a few more than what were being offered, including Ayra. There's a Genealogy Tempest Trials coming up next week, but they "surprised" everyone with the banner to promote it as it included Ayra, along with a couple of existing Genealogy characters.
I imagine that a lot of people were hoping that she was going to be the reward character for doing the Tempest Trials, which is leading to all the commotion now.
Triple Dash
Neo Member
Am cool with Minerva & Linde. Not a fan, but I still find it odd Azura didn't make into the base roster.
Meh for everyone else. Still waiting for characters from other games.
Meh for everyone else. Still waiting for characters from other games.
Yeah but they didnt tell you about it untill much later. I'll hold out some hope for Ike, Roy, and Noire
Drilbit777
Member
Oboro and tharja are cool but everything else is meh, i really wish they would have just went with a GBA/GC dlc pack instead. Guess im just gonna skip this until they actually reveal characters i want.
What a missed opportunity.
I feel like there was a major disconnect between the developers and the franchise. Celica and Lyn feel like last minute additions to throw us a bone, but I am glad they are in the game.
With everything Fire Emblem has been over the years, with all the games, why choose to only represent the first game, Awakening, and Fates? There are plenty of other characters people love from other games. Obviously they covered Lyn and Celica, but Ike? Hector? Eirika? Ephraim? Micaiah? Elincia? Roy? Palla, Est, and Catria?
And then what about villains? Gharnef? Nergal? Lyon? The Black Knight? Validar?
I feel like there was a major disconnect between the developers and the franchise. Celica and Lyn feel like last minute additions to throw us a bone, but I am glad they are in the game.
With everything Fire Emblem has been over the years, with all the games, why choose to only represent the first game, Awakening, and Fates? There are plenty of other characters people love from other games. Obviously they covered Lyn and Celica, but Ike? Hector? Eirika? Ephraim? Micaiah? Elincia? Roy? Palla, Est, and Catria?
And then what about villains? Gharnef? Nergal? Lyon? The Black Knight? Validar?
E_Darkness
Member
That DLC makes this game an even easier pass. 3 of those characters (at least) we saw before launch in some way or another.
owain, navarre, niles, and oboro all are on disk atm.
Unironic yays for me; it'd have been so easy for them to go the Smash route and reduce young Link to a clone of his adult counterpart, but nope, it came with that awesome Fierce Deity Mask mechanic that turned him in one of my favorites in the roster in very little time. Midna's other form was entirely unlike her original in both looks and attacks, not to mention fun as sin to play. Tingle's moveset was delightfully whimsical, offing enemies with popped balloons and a wallet? It's the sort of madness I loved HW for!
Now if you didn't care much for the characters that's understandable. I personally think they were all deserving of an inclusion (with the possible exception of humanoid Midna, but damned if they didn't make her work) and that none was a clone was already reason enough to look forward to them, but to each their own.
Baraka Obama
Banned
I havent been following this game at all. Whats the issue with the base game?
Drilbit777
Member
I think you mean cart lol
Developers have said that Ike and Roy in particular will be in the sequel if this game does well, so don't hold out hope.
1. The Brand new genealogy banner had three characters when Ayra easily could have been on there.
2. She's sharing a red spot with an old character. This is the first time a brand new character has to share focus pulls with old characters.
People are very salty about this (and yes Im super salty).
ShadowSoldier89
Member
most of the base game salt is just people pissed off they decided to focus on only 3 games. Other than that the amount of clone characters in the base game is unfortunately high.
TurnipFritters
Member
It's almost as if they chose to represent characters from games people actually bought. And Shadow Dragon.
Aizo
Banned
The roster comes only from (outside of Lyn and Celica) Awakening, Fates, and Shadow Dragon. Ike isnt even in the game, despite his overwhelming popularity.
The big consistent complaint is that there aren't as many unique move sets for the characters versus Hyrule Warriors, which the DLC characters are probably not going to help since most of them will be subject to the same criticism.
SporeCrawler
Member
the dlc packs are literally named sd awakening fates...
outside lyn and celica right?
i guess FE Warriors 2will be radiant series
I see this prop up a lot, but is there really any precedent? Legends was a late port, so they needed to enhance the package. And it's not like Legends didn't have DLC itself. I don't think any Musou titles have had a "complete edition
The NPC characters like Owain being DLC is lame considering if you look back at Hyrule Warriors, Cia, Voiga, and Wizzro were all NPCs initially that became playable with a free update.
I mean ... http://en-americas-support.nintendo...il/a_id/11679/~/how-to-update-hyrule-warriors
If you look at the version history for the Wii U version of Hyrule Warriors, there were some nice QoA adjustments as well as new weapons, characters, and costumes that were free in addition to DLC content.
Edit: Hyrule Warriors was handled a lot better. Free characters/clothing/weapons & DLC that was cross-buy (one version had the other as a redemption code on the receipt). I think Nintendo and KT got a bit greedy here and burnt some good will. They probably didn't want people splitting up the DLC to sell to a friend at a discount like you could with Hyrule Warriors (admittedly, I shared the cost with someone who only had one version of the game while I had the other).
I mean ... http://en-americas-support.nintendo...il/a_id/11679/~/how-to-update-hyrule-warriors
If you look at the version history for the Wii U version of Hyrule Warriors, there were some nice QoA adjustments as well as new weapons, characters, and costumes that were free in addition to DLC content.
Edit: Hyrule Warriors was handled a lot better. Free characters/clothing/weapons & DLC that was cross-buy (one version had the other as a redemption code on the receipt). I think Nintendo and KT got a bit greedy here and burnt some good will. They probably didn't want people splitting up the DLC to sell to a friend at a discount like you could with Hyrule Warriors (admittedly, I shared the cost with someone who only had one version of the game while I had the other).
For now I'm getting the Fates DLC pack. Who am I kidding, I will get the Season Pass. I just love Oboro.
Also, just like the others said, this is the cheapest DLC that Fire Emblem has ever gotten. And I will probably enjoy it more than Awakening, Fates or Echoes DLC.
*still grumbling I bought the children DLC in Fates.
Also, just like the others said, this is the cheapest DLC that Fire Emblem has ever gotten. And I will probably enjoy it more than Awakening, Fates or Echoes DLC.
*still grumbling I bought the children DLC in Fates.
I'm just talking about Japan.
I might still be wrong, as indicated by others, but it's not the most ludicrous assumption, given the recent success of Awakening/Fates, and the weak showings of The Legend of Zelda outside of DS, as well as the greater success of past games (prior to GBA).