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Moderators: the new ban on social and political discourse

Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....


No more Trump threads.

No more LGBTQ rights threads.

No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.

No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)

No more GamerGate threads.

No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.

No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)

Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.

Mod this man plz
 

505zoom

Member
You aren't forced to click the threads.

I usually didn't, but if the (above) potential new policy makes some people realize that banning discussion on certain topics that you don't like or agree with isn't really the best way to go about things, I'm all for it. Judging by a lot of the reactions so far tonight though, I think that might be asking for a lot.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
I usually didn't, but if the (above) potential new policy makes some people realize that banning discussion on certain topics that you don't like or agree with isn't really the best way to go about things, I'm all for it. Judging by a lot of the reactions so far tonight though, I think that might be asking for a lot.

Hm, what topic were you upset about when it got "banned?"
 

TB12

Banned
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....


No more Trump threads.

No more LGBTQ rights threads.

No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.

No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)

No more GamerGate threads.

No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.

No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)

Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.

Perfect!!

Lets make Neogaf great again :p
 
Imagine when you try and the shit spiels over into threads that had nothing to do with it anyway but people cant help themselves to start shit about it.

That has nothing to do with political threads in OT or threads created to foster such a discussion.

You can moderate that issue you're describing, if it becomes an issue, without burning everything else to the ground.

But the asinine annoyances of certain members isn't why any of this is actually happening.
 

haozz

Member
People like to talk politics. If this site survives, I don't see how long-term a ban on political discussion would work. Why not further separate out Off-Topic and Political Off-topic?
 

smurfx

get some go again
He's the president of the United States, and the majority of users are from English speaking countries. Like it or not, most everything the US government does effects all of our lives.

The GAF rule was always new threads for new news, because it's easy for updates to get lost in 300 page OTs, and you'll have entire pages of posters replying with outdated information. The president also effects a disproportionate amount of topics; from immigration to local elections to policing to international conflict to the environment to sports to lgbt rights to women's rights to minority rights to taxes to space exploration.

It would be, frankly, asinine to attempt to discuss all of those subjects simultaneously in one thread, along with every major crises that a president must address that gets thousands of replies.

People who don't want to be in a discussion can just... ignore a thread. "Triggered to trolling" means what, you can't help but shitpost news that effects your confirmation bias?
i think something like a weekly trump news thread could have worked. it wouldn't get too big and would be easier to follow.
 

Megatron

Member
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....


No more Trump threads.

No more LGBTQ rights threads.

No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.

No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)

No more GamerGate threads.

No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.

No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)

Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.


And comics.
 
Why does people always goes melodramatic with the word "Let make something something great again"

So many fake outrage everytime...
Because those words are symbolically incredibly bad. It's not just the words but the weight the apathic , status quo, white male hegemony it carries.
 

T.O.P

Banned
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....


No more Trump threads.

No more LGBTQ rights threads.

No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.

No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)

No more GamerGate threads.

No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.

No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)

Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.

This sounds amazing
 
i think something like a weekly trump news thread could have worked. it wouldn't get too big and would be easier to follow.

I still don't see a rationale for dumbing down discussion just so we can have more space for Justice League, iPhone, and *insert sport star: supernova* threads. Those threads don't go away just because the rest of the world is happening.

Besides, how can you realistically remove political discussion from a movie thread about a political event or perspective? Or a TV show about gay people? Or a videogame about murdering Nazis? Or a sports thread where half the players have something to say about politics either on or off the field? If this happened 3 months ago, would we not be allowed to discuss the Weinstein allegations in a Miramax thread?

I don't see this as sustainable going forward. You can't discuss art without discussing the human condition. You can't even have an apolitical discussion about biology and human physiology.

You're dense if you don't think there's an underlying meaning to those words.

Not dense, just stereotypically insincere. Says a lot that, in order for some people to appear reasonable, they must consistently pretend that they don't mean what they say. If your words do not have meaning, would the world be any worse off if you didn't share them?
 

T.O.P

Banned
Hi, /pol/! Hi, VOAT! Hi, Bore!

giphy.webp
 

Nilaul

Member
So does this ban the discussion of loot boxes, how absolutely horrible and deceiving they are and trying to impose stricter regulations on them?

Does this ban all non-gaming discussion to do with games (long work hours, horrible work environment, scammy practices)??
 

TheRed

Member
Oh man, to be away from the internet for a couple days, check GAF, see it's down and really think it's just routine maintenance. Comes back up, Wtf.
 
I never had a problem with OT I just think it was maybe the mods had trouble herding the shrieking cat user base.

Plus the trump guys got obliterated pretty quickly.
 

sephi22

Member
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....


No more Trump threads.

No more LGBTQ rights threads.

No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.

No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)

No more GamerGate threads.

No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.

No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)

Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.
This sounds boring as fuck. Where will I get my news from?
Also, just another toothless forum like all the rest?
 
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....


No more Trump threads.

No more LGBTQ rights threads.

No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.

No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)

No more GamerGate threads.

No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.

No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)

Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.

This is...eye-opening
 
How is that amazing? As someone who is gay I find discussion of my own rights pretty important.

I figured there were lots of silent (well some weren’t) Trump supporters , anti-BLM and such people but anti-LGBTQ? I didn’t think that would be called a “plus” that such discussion is now gone...
 

Freshmaker

I am Korean.
I am curious how that'll resolve the next time there's a something like a Zelda thread discussing stuff like wanting to have a female Link. Since stuff like that is inherently politically charged, and it's been a regular topic over the years.

I've always found stuff like that interesting. It'd be a shame to lose stuff like that, but I suppose that boils down to how strictly this political thing is enforced. It seems vaguely fleshed out as is.
 
PoliGAF had devolved into complete madness and was suspecting everyone of being a Russian shill. One thing I won't miss is PoliGAF, easily one of the most toxic threads in the forum.

Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....
Love it. This is the type of attitude we'll be seeing here, isn't it?
Talk about a hugbox/bubble/whatever, then complain the site isn't made for me.
God, ignoring a thread must be so hard.
 
Glad to know gaf is now the de facto cis het white male nerd pseudo ethnic center of discussion and that no one else matters really tbh.

Lol, what a fucking disgrace.
 

C4Lukins

Junior Member
This is obviously a panicked attempt to right the ship. Very little of the way this situation has been handled has been done well.

This is an example of that, and assuming the forum stays alive over the course of the next month, I am sure some of these initial mistakes will be corrected. But still I think if Off Topic is going to survive, it needs to be more inclusive for all, and moderate civil debate, for everyone involved.

This is an opportunity for the forum to fix itself.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Talking about racism is as bad as the racism itself, and this is why we need forward thinking policies such as no political discussion whatsoever.

What a turd of a comment. Yeah no one in the civil rights movement ever talked about racism when fighting it.
 
I was under the assumption that "we" as a community used to stand for the exact opposite.

"Bu-bu-but keep politics out of muh videogames!!" Is something for the alt right and alt right defending "both sides" crowd. Is GAF going to be flooded with those types now?

It's already happening, people are called "SJWs" and shit. It's just another opinion!
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
Gonna throw my 2 pennies in....


No more Trump threads.

No more LGBTQ rights threads.

No more threads about Colin Kaepernick.

No more PoliGAF(didn't participate, just read, but those were some knowledgeable dudes. Hate to lose that over some BS)

No more GamerGate threads.

No more Black man shot and killed by cops threads.

No more dirty cop threads(See Baltimore PD recent indictments of officers)

Basically OT will now be Sports, Movies, TV and Music.

Yeah, this would be nice. I play games to get away from this sort of thing.
 

kess

Member
This is obviously a panicked attempt to right the ship. Very little of the way this situation has been handled has been done well.

This is an example of that, and assuming the forum stays alive over the course of the next month, I am sure some of these initial mistakes will be corrected. But still I think if Off Topic is going to survive, it needs to be more inclusive for all, and moderate civil debate, for everyone involved.

This is an opportunity for the forum to fix itself.

Nuking OT from orbit makes it seem seems like Evilore has an implicit fear of his own site. In any case, the forums are in a moderation vacuum right now.
 
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