GOD. Skyward Sword. The full game looks SO GOOD. I thought the demo was pretty nice in it's performance and was pretty sure the final game would run worse! It's absolutely solid! The only problems I can see are at night on my machine, when the bloom goes into overdrive, the framerate drops to about 27-25 fps. I feel like I won't need my Wii at all for this one! Running r7718, DX11.
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Dolphin - Emulating Wii and Gamecube Games
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RurouniZel
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Definitely try 3x, uncheck the EFB skip option, and uncheck the RAM option from EFB Copies. OpenCL doesn't seem to do much in my experience. I'm using a Phenom too, OC'd to 4Ghz. Before I had it OC'd to 3.7Ghz, so it may not be your processor. Have you tried DX11?
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I'll try that. I'm not sure if I can overclock to 4x without increasing the power to the processor. I suppose I could try, I've just never done that so I'm afraid of frying my computer. If push comes to shove I may just give it a shot though.
EDIT: Yeah, nothing changed. I'll just have to muster the courage to try and overclock my processor to 4.0 Ghz... I'm just kinda scared. Is it difficult to up the power to a processor?
Robobandit
Member
Actually, for Zelda that should be unchecked, i believe.
That setting made the biggest difference in performance.. I was able to play it @ 30 fps on my 2.2Ghz i7 in my macbook pro after that..
robertlebrone
Member
Same here. I'm hoping Zelda SS will be different, getting everything set right now.
Also what is the general consensus from people already playing the game, is revision 7719 ideal or are any of the newer revisions better?
Peterthumpa
Member
For Dolphin-GAF Skyward Sword, I'll copy/paste my OP from the Dolphin forums here, to help everyone else:
Emulation Status / Speed
Best revision: r7719
Best settings:
Everything default, except:
- Prefered graphics plugin: DirectX 11
- AA method should be done only by using higher internal resolutions. AA "standard" settings causes glitches.
- AF should be set to 2X or higher to reduce/eliminate color banding
- Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix the pointer accuracy
- Disable "External Frame Buffer"
- Disable "Cache Display Lists"
- EFB Copies should be enabled only with the "Virtual" checkbox.
Everything else (audio settings, advanced graphical options) are a matter of personal choice and won't make much difference, so if possible, stick with the above.
FAQ:
Misaligned pointer for slingshot pellets, arrows, etc
Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix. Reduces performance.
I have a Wiimote but not a Motion+, can I play the game?
No. Emulation isn't possible. Also, using save-states won't get around this.
Large blocky shadows around Link / floor?
Looks like a problem with the DX9 plugin, using the DX11 plugin fixes this. Using a newer revision may also fix this but doing so yields more disadvantages.
Link's sword is invisible
Disable "Cache Display Lists".
The background (depth of field) is all corrupted, blocky and/or jagged looking
This is a problem with newer revisions of the emulator (3.0+). There are two possible solutions: use the recommend revision (r7719), or set "EFB Texture to RAM" (causes slowdowns).
Do I need a sensor bar, since the game is using the Motion+ gyros for motion tracking?
Although not needed, it's recommended as the sensor bar tells the Wiimote which direction is forward so that it can correctly correlate hand movements with sword swings. In other words, it serves as a "real time calibration". Without it, keeping the Motion+ calibration is way harder.
Screenshots
Emulation Status / Speed
Best revision: r7719
Best settings:
Everything default, except:
- Prefered graphics plugin: DirectX 11
- AA method should be done only by using higher internal resolutions. AA "standard" settings causes glitches.
- AF should be set to 2X or higher to reduce/eliminate color banding
- Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix the pointer accuracy
- Disable "External Frame Buffer"
- Disable "Cache Display Lists"
- EFB Copies should be enabled only with the "Virtual" checkbox.
Everything else (audio settings, advanced graphical options) are a matter of personal choice and won't make much difference, so if possible, stick with the above.
FAQ:
Misaligned pointer for slingshot pellets, arrows, etc
Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix. Reduces performance.
I have a Wiimote but not a Motion+, can I play the game?
No. Emulation isn't possible. Also, using save-states won't get around this.
Large blocky shadows around Link / floor?
Looks like a problem with the DX9 plugin, using the DX11 plugin fixes this. Using a newer revision may also fix this but doing so yields more disadvantages.
Link's sword is invisible
Disable "Cache Display Lists".
The background (depth of field) is all corrupted, blocky and/or jagged looking
This is a problem with newer revisions of the emulator (3.0+). There are two possible solutions: use the recommend revision (r7719), or set "EFB Texture to RAM" (causes slowdowns).
Do I need a sensor bar, since the game is using the Motion+ gyros for motion tracking?
Although not needed, it's recommended as the sensor bar tells the Wiimote which direction is forward so that it can correctly correlate hand movements with sword swings. In other words, it serves as a "real time calibration". Without it, keeping the Motion+ calibration is way harder.
Screenshots
robertlebrone
Member
Thank you felipepl.
No one?
Also, why is it that...
...every revision besides 3.0 I tested is actually slower than 3.0? in SMG2 it always cost me around 2 to 8FPS, 3.0 is always smoother and faster, especially the sound.
...3.0 crashes randmoly on me in 3.0.
Is that to be expected? Or is there any special setting to make Dolphin more stable? It's not crashing instantly, always takes its time.So gorgeous. *_*
To cover the "I don't have bluetooth dongle/wireless sensor bar" crowd: mini bluetooth dongle for $1.80 (comes with no driver, works fine with the default bluetooth driver at least under Windows and Linux), wireless sensor bar for $3.90. You may find better deals elsewhere.
To cover the "I don't have bluetooth dongle/wireless sensor bar" crowd: mini bluetooth dongle for $1.80 (comes with no driver, works fine with the default bluetooth driver at least under Windows and Linux), wireless sensor bar for $3.90. You may find better deals elsewhere.
goldsoundz
Member
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
For Dolphin-GAF Skyward Sword, I'll copy/paste my OP from the Dolphin forums here, to help everyone else:
Emulation Status / Speed
Best revision: r7719
Best settings:
Everything default, except:
- Prefered graphics plugin: DirectX 11
- AA method should be done only by using higher internal resolutions. AA "standard" settings causes glitches.
- AF should be set to 2X or higher to reduce/eliminate color banding
- Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix the pointer accuracy
- Disable "External Frame Buffer"
- Disable "Cache Display Lists"
- EFB Copies should be enabled only with the "Virtual" checkbox.
Everything else (audio settings, advanced graphical options) are a matter of personal choice and won't make much difference, so if possible, stick with the above.
FAQ:
Misaligned pointer for slingshot pellets, arrows, etc
Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix. Reduces performance.
I have a Wiimote but not a Motion+, can I play the game?
No. Emulation isn't possible. Also, using save-states won't get around this.
Large blocky shadows around Link / floor?
Looks like a problem with the DX9 plugin, using the DX11 plugin fixes this. Using a newer revision may also fix this but doing so yields more disadvantages.
Link's sword is invisible
Disable "Cache Display Lists".
The background (depth of field) is all corrupted, blocky and/or jagged looking
This is a problem with newer revisions of the emulator (3.0+). There are two possible solutions: use the recommend revision (r7719), or set "EFB Texture to RAM" (causes slowdowns).
Do I need a sensor bar, since the game is using the Motion+ gyros for motion tracking?
Although not needed, it's recommended as the sensor bar tells the Wiimote which direction is forward so that it can correctly correlate hand movements with sword swings. In other words, it serves as a "real time calibration". Without it, keeping the Motion+ calibration is way harder.
Screenshots
*tries*
O_O
You sir, work MIRACLES!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
Necronomikon
Member
I have a question GAF... Since Super Mario Galaxy 2 is extremely demanding with the LLE Plugin (I have mi Phenom II X6 1090t @4.0GHz) and it seems that you need at least 4.5GHz, and considering that the HLE Plugin screws the sound a few minutes in... Could the "experience" be improved/enhanced if I play the OST in the background (in Winamp, WMP or whatever) while I play the game (and changing the music depending on the level).
Has anyone tried that yet???
Anywhere I could get the OST?
BTW. DX11 Seems to give me a few extra FPS in SMG2 (like 3+ or 7+) compared to DX9 without any loss in quality or effects
Has anyone tried that yet???
Anywhere I could get the OST?
Am I being dumb GAF =(
BTW. DX11 Seems to give me a few extra FPS in SMG2 (like 3+ or 7+) compared to DX9 without any loss in quality or effects
Theonik
Member
SMG2 has some interactive music so you wouldn't be getting the same experience that normal sound would give. Winamp might also use up some system resources.
Is there a glitch with skyward swords AA in dolphin? I'm using Thoraxes' exact settings. I get weird glitches with 8x AA. But if I turn the AA off it works fine. Its like AA messes with the games watercolour style. With 8xAA the watercolour effect is greatly diminished (with glitches) and with AA off the watercolour is back and no glitches. See below:
With 8 x AA (glitch above and to the right of Link) + 'watercolour' artstyle gone:
With NO AA (no glitches) + prominent watercolour background:
Would you mind posting your build and settings? Your second pic is the best I've seen in this thread. Most of the recent pics have some crazy dof going on where it's even applied to the foreground.
jediyoshi
Member
Latest revision, default settings. Only difference between other SMG shots is maxing out the internal res and aa.
For Dolphin-GAF Skyward Sword, I'll copy/paste my OP from the Dolphin forums here, to help everyone else:
Emulation Status / Speed
Best revision: r7719
Best settings:
Everything default, except:
- Prefered graphics plugin: DirectX 11
- AA method should be done only by using higher internal resolutions. AA "standard" settings causes glitches.
- AF should be set to 2X or higher to reduce/eliminate color banding
- Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix the pointer accuracy
- Disable "External Frame Buffer"
- Disable "Cache Display Lists"
- EFB Copies should be enabled only with the "Virtual" checkbox.
Everything else (audio settings, advanced graphical options) are a matter of personal choice and won't make much difference, so if possible, stick with the above.
FAQ:
Misaligned pointer for slingshot pellets, arrows, etc
Disable "Skip EFB Access from CPU" to fix. Reduces performance.
I have a Wiimote but not a Motion+, can I play the game?
No. Emulation isn't possible. Also, using save-states won't get around this.
Large blocky shadows around Link / floor?
Looks like a problem with the DX9 plugin, using the DX11 plugin fixes this. Using a newer revision may also fix this but doing so yields more disadvantages.
Link's sword is invisible
Disable "Cache Display Lists".
The background (depth of field) is all corrupted, blocky and/or jagged looking
This is a problem with newer revisions of the emulator (3.0+). There are two possible solutions: use the recommend revision (r7719), or set "EFB Texture to RAM" (causes slowdowns).
Do I need a sensor bar, since the game is using the Motion+ gyros for motion tracking?
Although not needed, it's recommended as the sensor bar tells the Wiimote which direction is forward so that it can correctly correlate hand movements with sword swings. In other words, it serves as a "real time calibration". Without it, keeping the Motion+ calibration is way harder.
Screenshots
Like I've said, that DOF filter is hideous trash. What setting gets rid of it? I've seen it removed in demo screenshots.
There seems to be an issue in your config where the dof is applied to everything, even landscape in the foreground. I don't believe it's supposed to look like that.
Also, what is an "EFB" copy? Thanks.
It looks great when It's accurately (sparingly) used, like in Citizen K's config that I quoted above. Hopefully we can get him to post some screens so I can replicate it.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Turn off AA to fix it.
Will I still get dof in the background as intended?
TouchMyBox
Member
felipepl, you solved my issue with the flickering bar at the bottom of the screen.
You're pretty rad.
You're pretty rad.
If you guys don't mind, what was the big advantage from release r7719 over 7718? I'm currently using 7718 with great performance (just happened to have it on my pc from long ago), but I was wondering if I needed to upgrade to 7719. Is it even worth going back and reconfiguring everything and bringing over my save games? Thanks.
I just tried using this build + settings on the Skyward sword demo..All I know is that the current Windows ones don't work (at least with my dongle), and when the new ones came out I suffered for like 3 days to find out how to roll back the proper way to make it work.
Settings, revision r7719M. Also using D3D11.
I was getting 10 fps on average. The glitches were gone, but i got a smooth 30fps on the 3.0 build.
I'm on mac btw
goldsoundz
Member
Just hit Dragon Roost Cavern in Wind Waker.
Shit.
Shit.
Peterthumpa
Member
Ignore the strange DoF effect on my screens, they're just a side effect from Dolphin's free cam hack. It looks ok while playing.
I think the opposite, the filter is what makes the textures work. The textures unfiltered are pretty ugly.
Well, i'll at least answer your question.
No and no. I just played it and didn't bother to fix it ever.
bigmit3737
Member
Thanks　for　this.　I　plan　to　play　mainly　Gamecube　games.
I　have　to　do　a　little　research　on　the　processors,　but　is　that　the　new　I7　that　just　came　out?
What#s the second no for? ;D I think that lag is rather annoying...whatever.
Another problem is that SMG2 is crashing quiet frequently for me. (like once every 45 minutes)..
Any ideas on that?
Peterthumpa
Member
Absolutely. RE4 uses standard, non-motion-plus controls, so you're able to map them to your mouse or even to the game pad. Check the game pad settings for more info.
jediyoshi
Member
Yes. Hit the Wiimote toolbar button and set Wiimote 1 to Emulated Wiimote.
Did anyone play through SMG2 with LLE thread on core? I read that this could cause crashing in SMG2. I'd like to know if it's this or my overclock is not 100% stable. Without LLE though the game is running 10% worse, so it kinda sucks... Man, I upgraded my rig just to play SMG2 in beautiful HD and it's still not running without quirks...
Man, I upgraded my rig just to play SMG2 in beautiful HD and it's still not running without quirks... 
So I'm attempting to get things running through OSX Snow Leopard and everytime I attempt to load a game it gets stuck on a grey screen and states Clearing Code Cache. It worked fine in bootcamp on Windows 7. I'm trying to load up Wind Waker and the problem persists, I've changed a few settings but I'm not really sure what the actual cause is. Can anyone with some knowledge on the OSX side of things provide some insight?
Edit: I should also note that the version I downloaded for Mac was 3.0-202...would a more stable version do the trick?
Edit 2: Nevermind, I changed versions and its working now.
Edit: I should also note that the version I downloaded for Mac was 3.0-202...would a more stable version do the trick?
Edit 2: Nevermind, I changed versions and its working now.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
A whole-hearted Thank You to felipepl, who's settings have allowed me to play this game in glorious HD. ^_^
Original post with settings here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32829468&postcount=5932
Original post with settings here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32829468&postcount=5932
Peterthumpa
Member
I'm glad to be helpful. =)
I'm using build 7719. These are my settings (which I got to mostly from advice in this thread):
I had to disable 'skip EFB access from cpu' as it made wiimote aiming wonky in the game. Also as recommended no AA as it produces glitches for me. I don't think AA is needed but I did notice having it on reduced the background watercolour effect (but glitches make AA a no no for me).
Here's an example of AA reducing the DOF watercolour effect:
No AA:
8xAA:
But like I said this causes weird graphical lighting glitches (although no glitches are in this pic)!
Here are some screenshots with above settings (played on a 1900x1200 monitor):
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Is there a way to boot to the Wii menu in Dolphin? I've used a bunch of different configs and forgotten what saves are on what config. I'd be easy to look at them in the Wii system menu (and I'd imagine that should also allow exporting to an SD card for transfer to a real Wii).