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What are you reading? (January 2012)

Monroeski

Unconfirmed Member
If I remember correctly I think it was mostly Mellanie that convinced her that outside forces are influencing humanity - including the AI giving her OCTattoos. And I think she just started to piece it together herself.

So it was more of just a "humanity is being influenced" moment than a "the starflyer is keeping me from finding the guardians" moment? Makes sense, I guess. I'll try to find that part in the book when I get home later.

At any rate, really loving the series so far. got up to the point where the
Dudley Bose motile made first contact with Morton and Cat
. Really looking forward to finishing it.
 

KingGondo

Banned
Just wanted to pop in and say that 11/22/63 is fantastic so far. King's twists on the concept of time travel really add a ton of drama and weight to what has become such a played-out concept.
 
So it was more of just a "humanity is being influenced" moment than a "the starflyer is keeping me from finding the guardians" moment? Makes sense, I guess. I'll try to find that part in the book when I get home later.

At any rate, really loving the series so far. got up to the point where the
Dudley Bose motile made first contact with Morton and Cat
. Really looking forward to finishing it.

Yeah I loved it. I'm looking forward to getting into the Void Trilogy. I don't know when or where it is in relation to the Commonwealth Saga books but if its half as good as those two it should be worth a read.
 

Chorazin

Member
Don't mean to keep quoting the cover, but just a heads up for Americans, anyway: the Kindle version of this is like $4.79-ish right now. Because of the fanfic aspect (or rather the publisher hosting the fanfic) to this, I jumped in to see what the setting is all about...

Picked it up since it was so cheap, and it sounds pretty interesting!
 

peakish

Member
Finished:

DRACULA by Bram Stoker. Some really well written and scary scenes mixed with a bit too many paragraphs of Stern Men TM putting hands on each others shoulders while holding back tears for their loved women companions's hardships. Also includes an archetypic scene of vampire hunters gearing up, amazing.

WUTHERING HEIGHTS by some Brontë. Enjoyed this a lot, was properly angry at and sad for Heathcliff at the end. Quite a black love story, as advertised.

1Q84 1+2 by Murakami. Some tense scenes but I don't know, quite boring. The second book didn't really move anything forward at all as far as I can remember. I think I'll pass on the third.

Just starting:

FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS by Hemmingway. Christmas present from my sister, five chapters in, amazing so far. Rapid and interesting dialogue, good scene setting.

Read a bit of:

KALEVALA. Part hilarious, all magic in these songs. Can't quite figure out how to read the verse in my mind though.


Will get to some more modern books soon, it's been way too many classics lately >_>
 

deadbeef

Member
Just wanted to pop in and say that 11/22/63 is fantastic so far. King's twists on the concept of time travel really add a ton of drama and weight to what has become such a played-out concept.

I just finished it last month. I think it was a great book. I put The Dome on my list as well.

I also found a cool book on sale in the Kindle store called Harry Truman's Excellent Adventure: The True Story of a Great American Road Trip. Looked interesting. Still reading Moby Dick. Alternates between completely spell-binding and almost unintelligible with the awkward sentence structures
 

ymmv

Banned
Finished The Club Dumas yesterday. A clever book, interesting background but I got fed up with the author's walls of descriptive text. At about 2/3s of the book I started skipping paragraphs just so I could finish it that night. Not a good sign.

Now reading:

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Lafiel

と呼ぶがよい
I thought For Whom the Bell Tolls had pretty terrible dialogue,Maria's especially.
I've just finished reading it recently, and I'd haft to agree with you there on the bolded. I don't think hemingway has a good understanding of the female psychology or does romantic relationships that well in general, as I found the romantic plots in both this and a farewell to arms to be very cringe-worthy in terms of execution and dialogue.
 

Gr1mLock

Passing metallic gas
Thanks for the recommendations a while back guys. Its a bit tough picking a detective series cause there seems to be so many to choose from and I'm totally clueless when it comes to the genera.
 
Aaah finally finished the first book.

Pandora's Star by Peter F. Hamilton
That took me FOREVER. I don't know why though. I'm usually a pretty fast reader. Overall, the story and most of the characters were good, but there was just too much filler. It felt too disjointed at times, especially in the beginning.

My favorite character so far is Tochee. I kind of want to know what happens, but not sure if I want to commit to the second book. Is it more exciting than the first?
 
Pillars Of The Earth

A second time. I like this one. The black/white-morality is really present here, yet still it is very thrilling to see the "good guys" getting out of the mess and the problems they gotten into.

I finished that one a few months ago. I really liked it, it was epic, but I couldn't help feeling like the last third of the book felt rushed or disconnected. Like Follett put the book down for awhile and then came back years later to finish it. I have no idea if that is true or not, but that's how it read.
 
Aaah finally finished the first book.

Pandora's Star by Peter F. Hamilton
That took me FOREVER. I don't know why though. I'm usually a pretty fast reader. Overall, the story and most of the characters were good, but there was just too much filler. It felt too disjointed at times, especially in the beginning.

My favorite character so far is Tochee. I kind of want to know what happens, but not sure if I want to commit to the second book. Is it more exciting than the first?

I thought so. It got intense, almost frantic, near the end of Judas Unchained.

I loved Tochee too. He seems so warm and fuzzy. Like an intelligent pet.
 

deduce

Member
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I bought the leather bound edition of The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide years ago, but never actually read it. Now I just bought a new Kindle and bought the Kindle edition, it's a shame I've put off reading this book for so long. I can't remember the last time I actually laughed while reading a book.
 

Witchfinder General

punched Wheelchair Mike
My wife's first published novel!

Jo Anderton - Debris

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I think I'm the last person to start reading this book. It's great so far, but hey, I'm biased.
 
My wife's first published novel!

Jo Anderton - Debris

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I think I'm the last person to start reading this book. It's great so far, but hey, I'm biased.[/QUOTE]

That's awesome! Congratulations to you both. Did you help her out at all with it?
 

The Judge

Member
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I bought the leather bound edition of The Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide years ago, but never actually read it. Now I just bought a new Kindle and bought the Kindle edition, it's a shame I've put off reading this book for so long. I can't remember the last time I actually laughed while reading a book.

I was in the same boat six months ago, bought the book but hadn't read it. Ended up reading the book itself though and loved it, really funny. It does get a bit worse in the last volumes though.


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Read Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion in the first week of the year. Loved both.
Might try to go for something else before digging up in the Endymion ones. Gravity's Rainbow, maybe.
 
I was in the same boat six months ago, bought the book but hadn't read it. Ended up reading the book itself though and loved it, really funny. It does get a bit worse in the last volumes though.


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Read Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion in the first week of the year. Loved both.
Might try to go for something else before digging up in the Endymion ones. Gravity's Rainbow, maybe.

I loved Hyperion, but felt like Fall was a huge letdown. The first was so clever in its structure and story, but the second felt so much more mundane. Maybe I read them too close together, but I still haven't gotten around to the next in the series.

I just bought a copy. :b

Didn't buy it yet, but added it to my Kindle wishlist! Looks very interesting.
 

Witchfinder General

punched Wheelchair Mike
Oooh, lovely cover-art. How long did it take her to get it published (from final draft, to physical copy) if you don't mind me asking.

Getting that book signed didn't take that long, but getting signed to the book actually coming out took nearly two years as the publisher split from its parent publisher to become its own entity.
 

The Judge

Member
I loved Hyperion, but felt like Fall was a huge letdown. The first was so clever in its structure and story, but the second felt so much more mundane. Maybe I read them too close together, but I still haven't gotten around to the next in the series.

Yeah, I did enjoy the first one more. It looked like Dan Simmons tried to do the structure different from the first, but also different than normal with
Joseph Severn/John Keats dreaming of the pilgrims and what was going on, rupturing the narration of the events based on his sleep schedule. I didn't like that structure much, but I did enjoy what was going on in the Time Tombs with the pilgrims and the whole Hegemony/Ouster/TechnoCore political drama and the concepts of the Shrike and its tree, battle of Ultimate Intelligences from the future, etc. It sometimes delved too deep in the cyberpunk technobabble when dealing with the datasphere/megaspehere for my tastes. Although I do admit that the things happening in the Time Tombs many times simply didn't go nowhere, just following the script of a)character ends up being alone, b)weird thing happens, c)fate of character unknown, d)Joseph Severn wakes up/changes dream. This happened too much and through most of the book.
Besides all this I was pleased by the ending with the end of the Web and walked way from the two books with a satisfied mind. The highlights of the two are the pilgrim's tales though: Sol Weintraub/Lenar Hoyt/Brawne Lamia/Martin Silenus tales were perfect, the Consul's was good and the one I didn't care much was Fedhmann Kassad's.

With that said, I'm in not much of a hurry to start Endymion though, since I hear it's inferior. I'll get to it eventually...
 

Verdre

Unconfirmed Member
Finished all the Stieg Larsson books.

Girl With the Dragon Tattoo - The best.
Girl Who Played With Fire - Decent, but goes a bit too outlandish.
Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest - Terrible and tedious.

When the mystery in the books is on going they can be pretty enjoyable. When the mysteries are not on going they can be pretty bad. I genuinely have no idea why these are so popular especially since I found the third book to be one of the most dull and tedious things I have ever read.
 

hamchan

Member
I loved the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo but didn't enjoy the sequels at all. I only read them because of the goodwill gained from the first book.
 

Fjordson

Member
My wife's first published novel!

Jo Anderton - Debris

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I think I'm the last person to start reading this book. It's great so far, but hey, I'm biased.
Congrats to your wife! Just grabbed the Kindle version.

And this is published by Angry Robot? That's pretty cool, they put out the book I'm currently reading (Empire State).
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
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I finally gave in and downloaded it through Kindle around 10 PM. It's now 6:30 in the morning and I finally managed to drop it when I reached the start of the final part of the book.

Holy shit. This is what dreams nightmares are made of. I can't wait for the film.
 

Uriah

Member
I'm about half way through Hyperion. I wish there was a glossary for all the technology and history that is mentioned.

Question with minor spoilers:
The Hegira was the destruction of Earth right?
 

Fjordson

Member
Question with minor spoilers:
The Hegira was the destruction of Earth right?
I've always been slightly unsure of that myself.
From what I remember, The Hegira is sort of a general term for the age when humanity left earth and began to colonize other planets. So for example, "pre-Hegira" basically just means Old Earth. There's a more specific term used for what happened to Earth, but I won't mention it in case you haven't gotten that far.
 

Chorazin

Member
About 40% through Empire State, and I'm glad I saw it being recommended here! Noir sci-fi superhero shouldn't work together this good, but it totally does. Also, being less than $5 on Kindle didn't hurt at all.
 
Yeah, I did enjoy the first one more. It looked like Dan Simmons tried to do the structure different from the first, but also different than normal with
Joseph Severn/John Keats dreaming of the pilgrims and what was going on, rupturing the narration of the events based on his sleep schedule. I didn't like that structure much, but I did enjoy what was going on in the Time Tombs with the pilgrims and the whole Hegemony/Ouster/TechnoCore political drama and the concepts of the Shrike and its tree, battle of Ultimate Intelligences from the future, etc. It sometimes delved too deep in the cyberpunk technobabble when dealing with the datasphere/megaspehere for my tastes. Although I do admit that the things happening in the Time Tombs many times simply didn't go nowhere, just following the script of a)character ends up being alone, b)weird thing happens, c)fate of character unknown, d)Joseph Severn wakes up/changes dream. This happened too much and through most of the book.
Besides all this I was pleased by the ending with the end of the Web and walked way from the two books with a satisfied mind. The highlights of the two are the pilgrim's tales though: Sol Weintraub/Lenar Hoyt/Brawne Lamia/Martin Silenus tales were perfect, the Consul's was good and the one I didn't care much was Fedhmann Kassad's.

With that said, I'm in not much of a hurry to start Endymion though, since I hear it's inferior. I'll get to it eventually...

Sorry in advance for the huge block of spoilers....

Massive Fall of Hyperion spoilers below. Do not read unless you've finished the book.

I read this back in September of 2009, but here is part of my "review" after finishing it:

The two aspects I enjoyed the most in Hyperion are completely absent in the second book. First of all, instead of a series of short stories that, when combined, reveal a great mystery and deliver interesting, well developed characters, we get a story that alternates from being told in first person perspective of Severn to third person omniscience. While this is a clever idea (having the same character who tells his story while awake dreams the tales of others while sleeping), in practice it is jarring and far less engaging than the structure of the previous book. I often found myself pulled out of the tale because the changes were so abrupt. It felt similar to switching between two entirely different books every chapter. This become even more clear during a stretch where Severn is dreaming for such a long period of time that you realize having the entire book told from a single vantage point would have made for a more pleasurable reading experience.

As I write this, however, I can’t help but consider the part where Severn/Keats is dying, and how effective it was because it was told from his perspective. Perhaps it was for this very reason that Simmons chose to write the book the way he did? I also wondered, while reading this, if it was his attempt to make the second novel have a structure as interesting and unique as the first book? Either way, unlike Hyperion, the structure of Fall is not its greatest strength.

The other aspect of Hyperion that impressed me was Simmons ability to reveal the nature of the universe he envisioned not by explaining each facet of the world in detail, but by allowing our understanding to develop and evolve naturally based on context alone. In Fall, however, there is no subtlety to the new (or even many of the old) inventions. Instead, Simmons explicitly defines them. I wonder, considering how vague the original was, if Simmons encountered an editor who kept saying “this isn’t very clear, how about we add a little detail here”.

The same could be said for how all the events of the first were summarized periodically in the sequel. I understand that they want it to be approachable for those who missed the first one but should the author really be forced to speak to the lowest common denominator in a book like this? If you somehow started to read this before the first, and you found yourself confused, but enjoying it, wouldn’t you go get the first book? Furthermore, I don’t even think it would be that hard to figure out what’s going on considering how little you really learn in the first novel to begin with.

To bring some specificity to my complaints, let’s look at the section where the 2nd Keats persona has entered the metasphere and is talking to the AI Ummon. Ummon speaks in the form of poems (koans) that are not very clear. However, instead of leaving these poems as vague hints to the truths that Ummon wanted to reveal, we get an explicit summary of what they mean by the Keats persona. While it was convenient to have the explanations readily available (especially considering they were critical to the story as a whole), it was also frustrating. If Simmons wanted us to understand what Ummon was saying as clearly as possible, why wrap it up in confusing poetry that is then explained by Keats? Why not just have Ummon tell us clearly? And if Simmons wanted it to be wrapped in poetry, why not write it in such a way that it is vague, and requires thought, without being so obtuse as requiring translation? Ultimately, it seems like a lazy solution to what may have been a shining moment of the book.

(I cut the parts I liked from the review here because this post is already too long, but if anyone wants to see that I can post it later.)
 

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
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I finally gave in and downloaded it through Kindle around 10 PM. It's now 6:30 in the morning and I finally managed to drop it when I reached the start of the final part of the book.

Holy shit. This is what dreams nightmares are made of. I can't wait for the film.

Jesus, that good? My sister gave it to me but I was reluctant to start because of all the hype... Though I suppose a new reader to ASOIAF may feel the same way and that would be a huge mistake.
 

ultron87

Member
So order really isn't that important?

They are all independent stories. They are technically published in chronological order, but with hundreds of years separating each book.

If you read them in order you do get to see how fighting the war in the first novel has long term effects on the policies and behavior of the Culture even thousands of years later.
 

Divius

Member
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I finally gave in and downloaded it through Kindle around 10 PM. It's now 6:30 in the morning and I finally managed to drop it when I reached the start of the final part of the book.

Holy shit. This is what dreams nightmares are made of. I can't wait for the film.
Read this entire book in a single sitting today. OMW to part 2.
 

Monroeski

Unconfirmed Member
Aaah finally finished the first book.

Pandora's Star by Peter F. Hamilton
That took me FOREVER. I don't know why though. I'm usually a pretty fast reader. Overall, the story and most of the characters were good, but there was just too much filler. It felt too disjointed at times, especially in the beginning.

My favorite character so far is Tochee. I kind of want to know what happens, but not sure if I want to commit to the second book. Is it more exciting than the first?

Since you finished it recently you think you could answer my question back in post 408? Keep forgetting to go back and search for myself.
 
Since you finished it recently you think you could answer my question back in post 408? Keep forgetting to go back and search for myself.

Sure. It was kind of spread throughout the end of the book, but I think the gist of it is:

Paula found something fishy going on with the upper levels of politicians, people blocking her process by denying her the right to investigate all cargo going to Far Away,f or example. Then Burnelli got killed after she asked him to help with that. So she figured that something higher up than Johanson was doing it and she rationalized that going after Starflyer would be a way to ease up on her investigation with Johanson.
 

aidan

Hugo Award Winning Author and Editor
My wife's first published novel!

Jo Anderton - Debris

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I think I'm the last person to start reading this book. It's great so far, but hey, I'm biased.

Wow, congrats. Angry Robot are good people and I expect big things of them in 2012! I'll have to see if I can get a review copy of Debris.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
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Not LOVING it. Im about half way through and theyre still being pretty vague about whats going on. Kind of waiting for him to get to the point.
 
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