Even the most extreme wish list on that thread stops short at a sub $300 price point.
And just about every prediction includes internal storage.
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PS Vita US Launch Details (Launch Games, Accessory Pricing)
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Even the most extreme wish list on that thread stops short at a sub $300 price point.
And just about every prediction includes internal storage.
The Elite
BOSS
Some of the quotes from this thread need to be in the OT.
Baki is a prophet? These predictions aren't bad:
The_Darkest_Red
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I'm interested in all of the games that you mentioned but the only one I'm picking up at launch is Wipeout (with the possible exception of PSN games like Super Star Dust and Escape Plan). My reason for this is simple --- I won't have time to play a ton of games at once, waiting gives me time to see plenty of GAF feedback, and most of these games will probably drop in price quickly.I'm reaching the point where I'm overwhelmed with the Vita line up, this the first time there are too many launch games I want heh. I'm leaning towards Uncharted, Wipeout, Lumines, Katamari, Escape Plan and Super Star Dust, but then that's a lot games :/ Not to mention I'm getting Gravity Rush as soon as that comes out. Tell me I'm not the only one crazy enough to buy all these games
I just look at the software independently from the system launch. If all of these games were coming out at the same time on PS3 I wouldn't buy all of them on launch day, so why do things any differently for the Vita?
Holy shit. O_O
Some people's expectations seem to be a bit out of control when it comes to the Vita's functionality regarding UMD transfers, PS1 compatibility, and, apparently, PS2 compatibility.
Maybe it's because I grew up on consoles that didn't have backwards compatibility, and viewed consoles that did have the feature as a kickass bonus, but not the reason why I buy new hardware, I don't know.
I don't own any UMD's anymore (most of them kept breaking), so I don't mind that the Vita doesn't support UMD. I missed out on a lot of PSP games anyway, so I'll be catching up through the titles available on PSN, of which there are plenty I missed out on.
As for PS1 Classics? Only a handful of the ones available on PSN I feel are worth it to play on the go (or even on the PS3). Not a lot of them have weathered the test of time well in my opinion. Some of the old school 2D RPGs like Alundra, Chrono Cross/Trigger, Final Fantasy, etc, I think have done well, but stuff like Medal of Honor, as much as I loved that game (and still own the PS1 disc), I can't say I'm eager to play it on my new $300 handheld.
My primary motivation for picking up a Vita is because of the new hardware, and the new games available for that hardware. Don't get me wrong, I'm eager for the day I can play Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (not the one included with Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles) on my PSVita, as it tickles me that I'll have played that game on every piece of Sony hardware released, and I certainly appreciate the option to play a nice selection of the many PSP titles I missed out on these past few months/years, they certainly aren't what pushed me to buy a Vita.
There's nothing wrong with wanting things like PSP/PS1/PS2 compatibility, but can't we be just a bit more reasonable here? It's not this magic device that is supposed to do everything. All I want from my Vita is that the functionality and features deliver an awesome gaming experience, and that's looking to be the case. Everything else; the extra apps, old library compatibility, is just a bonus.
Maybe it's because I grew up on consoles that didn't have backwards compatibility, and viewed consoles that did have the feature as a kickass bonus, but not the reason why I buy new hardware, I don't know.
I don't own any UMD's anymore (most of them kept breaking), so I don't mind that the Vita doesn't support UMD. I missed out on a lot of PSP games anyway, so I'll be catching up through the titles available on PSN, of which there are plenty I missed out on.
As for PS1 Classics? Only a handful of the ones available on PSN I feel are worth it to play on the go (or even on the PS3). Not a lot of them have weathered the test of time well in my opinion. Some of the old school 2D RPGs like Alundra, Chrono Cross/Trigger, Final Fantasy, etc, I think have done well, but stuff like Medal of Honor, as much as I loved that game (and still own the PS1 disc), I can't say I'm eager to play it on my new $300 handheld.
My primary motivation for picking up a Vita is because of the new hardware, and the new games available for that hardware. Don't get me wrong, I'm eager for the day I can play Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (not the one included with Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles) on my PSVita, as it tickles me that I'll have played that game on every piece of Sony hardware released, and I certainly appreciate the option to play a nice selection of the many PSP titles I missed out on these past few months/years, they certainly aren't what pushed me to buy a Vita.
There's nothing wrong with wanting things like PSP/PS1/PS2 compatibility, but can't we be just a bit more reasonable here? It's not this magic device that is supposed to do everything. All I want from my Vita is that the functionality and features deliver an awesome gaming experience, and that's looking to be the case. Everything else; the extra apps, old library compatibility, is just a bonus.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Sorry, I think it is completely reasonable to believe that the Vita should have PS1 compatibility at launch.
No, it's not "pushing" me to buy a Vita, but it is something that should be there. The PS3 plays them. The previous PSP plays them. There's no excuse.
UMD transfer, though--that's a different story.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm not so worried about UMD transfers at this time. I just want that HW in my hands.
The Elite
BOSS
His Japan and Worldwide predictions would have probably been spot on too if it wasn't for the quake.
Wow. He scares me.
The_Darkest_Red
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I don't really care about PS1 compatibility or UMD transfer. I just bought a PSP-3000 last year due to my 1000 crapping out and my decent sized UMD collection and I love it. If I want to play a PSP game I'll play it on my PSP. Of course it would be nice if I could store those games digitally on my Vita but it isn't something I'm particularly concerned with, especially given how complicated any solution would probably end up being.
Now if the Vita had an Activity Log like the 3DS then it might be a different story... I love using that thing to track all of my playtime stats for my 3DS and DS games.
Now if the Vita had an Activity Log like the 3DS then it might be a different story... I love using that thing to track all of my playtime stats for my 3DS and DS games.
Baconsammy
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Yeah, I love my 3000 with extended battery, but I'm looking forward to finally playing MHFU on a handheld that doesnt require THE CLAW. I don't see the appeal of Activity Log. Why would I care how much I've played a game? Lots of people seem to love it though. I assumed it was for parents to check on how much their kids were gaming.
Proof that very few people knew anything about the costs of today's mobile technology. Some of the posts are great.
From that thread:
lawl.
I predicted $299 and was one of the "crazy folk."
The_Darkest_Red
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I'm an absolute sucker for stats, charts, and graphs so I find the Activity Log to be absolutely wonderful. It's cool to do random things like see what game I played the most in the month of October 2011 or see what game I've played the most times and stuff like that, although I realize that it's kind of a weird thing to be into. I'm actually really disappointed that the Vita doesn't have something similar, though.
If I was into any PSP games that required the claw then I would probably care a bit more about the situation but I never got into Monster Hunter. I suppose it would be nice to finally play Peace Walker and Resistance Retribution with a second analog stick but it isn't a big enough issue for me to complain about. In the case of PW I have the MGS HD Collection on PS3 anyway so that isn't even an issue.
Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention PS Vitas First RPG Hits in April
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012...f-detention-ps-vitas-first-rpg-hits-in-april/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012...f-detention-ps-vitas-first-rpg-hits-in-april/
But why should it be there? I don't think it's particularly necessary for any new gaming platform to be backwards compatible with previous tech. I think it's absolutely awesome when that's possible, but I don't think it's any kind of "right" we have as gamers, and it's not an obligation for the platform holders to include backwards compatibility with older software, especially if it's going to somehow interfere with form/function of the newer hardware.
It's fortunate that the PlayStation brand has utilized such a similar form/function for it's input devices over the past 15+ years in the industry, which, for the most part, makes BC a bit easier to implement on newer platforms.
Don't get me wrong, I like BC, but I don't feel that it's something that's required. It may be expected, since Sony implemented BC with the PS2, and has carried that forward to their newer hardware, but when I see comments like, "UGH, no PSP/PS1/PS2 BC out the gate? No buy!!" It just seems kind of extreme and unreasonable to me. Yeah, they promised PS1 BC, so sure, that's expected, but the PS2 BC? And a UMD transfer program? Why? People made a decision to buy UMD games for their PSP. There is no rule saying that they should get a free downloadable version because they don't want to play those games on their PSP anymore, because new hardware is out, and some of their beloved UMD titles are available for download. I own the original Castlevania: Symphony of the Night PS1 disc, but I didn't scream at Sony to let me have the PSN version for free because I already bought the disc. I wanted it on my HDD bad enough, so I bought the digital version. It's the sense of entitlement some people display about these things that makes me shake my head in confusion.
EDIT - Also, Baki's predictions are really awesome.
EDIT 2 - Reading the comments in that old thread are awesome. Some people were really expecting a $450-$500+ price. lol.
Baki the prophet!
If only he could tell us if Vita lives...
I said $279 because I didn't let the PS3 cloud my judgment.
If only he could tell us if Vita lives...
I said $279 because I didn't let the PS3 cloud my judgment.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Will probably buy when it hits 20 or less.
Regarding predictions - I thought it would be 300-349. No joke. I was reasonable and wanted folks to be wrong. Now the same ones are saying no buy even though it destroys almost every launch ever.
A Twisty Fluken
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Backwards compatibility is a way for the platform holders to encourage adoption of a successor platform for users that are still deriving worth from the existing platform. It's a way for Sony or whoever to discourage people from putting off adopting a new platform because they still have a bunch of games built up, or because they want to continue to play the games they have.
Without it, the Vita has to more fully stand on its own two feet when positioned as a successor to the PSP. It's really Sony's loss of the selling point.
Reading the back and forth between Mr_Brit and Amir0x is hilarious.
You had a lot of people say OLED = Insane price right off the bat. No one really knew what was inside the machine, they just knew it was SONY so it was gonna be expensive.
Vyse The Legend
Member
I really don't think we will see Gravity Rush until May.
Ninja_Hawk
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I knew at least one SKU was going to be $250... I KNEW IT!!! lol
I'm reaching the point where I'm overwhelmed with the Vita line up, this the first time there are too many launch games I want heh. I'm leaning towards Uncharted, Wipeout, Lumines, Katamari, Escape Plan and Super Star Dust, but then that's a lot games :/ Not to mention I'm getting Gravity Rush as soon as that comes out. Tell me I'm not the only one crazy enough to buy all these games
Don't worry
Super Stardust Delta
MotorStorm RC
Escape Plan
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
WipeOut 2048
Touch My Katamari
Unit 13
Little Deviants
Reality Fighters
Army Corps of Hell
Asphalt Injection*
Lumines: Electronic Symphony*
Dungeon Hunter: Alliance*
( * = Amazon UK deal for 5 bucks a game. Can we expect our orders to be canceled? Anyone care to venture a guess? )
And also in my preorder, for whenever they come out:
Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz
Silent Hill: Book of Memories
Ive looked over the prices for digital games (PSP and PSX) on PSN and I think its safe to say that they (Sony or whoever is in charge of pricing) needs to reevaluate. There are a few bundled promotions that I think are a great deal and have excellent value. $15 bundles for Patapon & Locoroco or Motor Storm Arctic Edge & Twisted Metal Head-On is a fair price. I also dont have an issue with charging $15 for something like Manhunt 2 or The Warriors.
But $30 for Peace Walker!? Thats the going price right now for the HD Collection and you get MGS 2 & 3 in that package. The same goes for the two God of War games (Ghost of Sparta & Chains of Olympus). It makes little to no sense that these games are the same price as their High Def counterparts. The GTA Story games are $20 too. Thats what out of touch retailers are charging for UMD copies of these games (theyre even cheaper if you know where to look) so its ridiculous to have to think digital copies should carry the same price tag.
I know it wont happen, but a slash across the board for PSP and PSX games could do wonders for the PStore for the first few weeks Vita is on the market. Early adaptors of electronics are so accustomed to getting dicked-over when they buy into anything new, that a two or three week sale on PSN downloads could go a long way in having owners settle in with their new machine, while also allowing those who may not be accustomed to purchasing digitally, to give it a second thought.
But $30 for Peace Walker!? Thats the going price right now for the HD Collection and you get MGS 2 & 3 in that package. The same goes for the two God of War games (Ghost of Sparta & Chains of Olympus). It makes little to no sense that these games are the same price as their High Def counterparts. The GTA Story games are $20 too. Thats what out of touch retailers are charging for UMD copies of these games (theyre even cheaper if you know where to look) so its ridiculous to have to think digital copies should carry the same price tag.
I know it wont happen, but a slash across the board for PSP and PSX games could do wonders for the PStore for the first few weeks Vita is on the market. Early adaptors of electronics are so accustomed to getting dicked-over when they buy into anything new, that a two or three week sale on PSN downloads could go a long way in having owners settle in with their new machine, while also allowing those who may not be accustomed to purchasing digitally, to give it a second thought.
Yoshida confirmed it's a launch window game. Don't know if the launch window could be stretched till May.
outunderthestars
Banned
Don't worry
Super Stardust Delta
MotorStorm RC
Escape Plan
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
WipeOut 2048
Touch My Katamari
Unit 13
Little Deviants
Reality Fighters
Army Corps of Hell
Asphalt Injection*
Lumines: Electronic Symphony*
Dungeon Hunter: Alliance*
( * = Amazon UK deal for 5 bucks a game. Can we expect our orders to be canceled? Anyone care to venture a guess? )
And also in my preorder, for whenever they come out:
Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz
Silent Hill: Book of Memories
Wow. That is alot of games. I'm only buying Katamari at launch. No other launch game really interests me.
I have always believed that PSN needs a more aggressive promotional push. Get publishers on board with a Amazon Gold Box styled one super discounted game a day kind of sale. There is no reason for back catalog stuff to still be so expensive....
Valkyria Chronicles II is $39.99.
Vyse The Legend
Member
The definition for launch window changes all the time. During the 360 launch, Microsoft said it was three months.
I don't think Sony has specified how big the window in this case. I think May still fits the bill.
I'm kind of hoping some US Retailer does a B2G1F on launch titles. I'd definitely buy some mix of UMvC3, Army Corps of Hell, Lumines, and Ridge Racer. Without a deal like that, I'll likely buy one of the 4 (probably Lumines or UMvC3) with Hot Shots & Uncharted. The Show on March 6th. Mortal Kombat & Gravity Rush whenever they launch.
I'm getting that launch itch. I'd been waffling on my preorder, but I'm 100% on board now. I hope the next 3 weeks pass by quickly.
I'm getting that launch itch. I'd been waffling on my preorder, but I'm 100% on board now. I hope the next 3 weeks pass by quickly.
Glip_Glop
Member
Forgot I had like 15,000 Amex rewards points. Applied them to the 3G Bundle, plus a $100 Amazon gift card, I only wind up paying ~100. The real question is, do I really want another Uncharted game? Anyone else feel overwhelmed with all their consoles and games? I've barely touched my 3DS, I have probably 10 unopened games for various systems, yet I'm excited about picking up the Vita.
outunderthestars
Banned
I am thinking about waiting 3-4 weeks to see if any retailer offers some promotions.
popsicle_sundays
Member
Let the Vita sharing continue!
I'm getting:
-Wifi Vita
-32GB memory Card
-Uncharted (Retail)
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus (PSN)
-Ridge Racer (PSN)
-2 pack screen protector
-Hori Screen protector (looking like it won't come 'till later)
-Carrying case
-Cradle
I'm getting:
-Wifi Vita
-32GB memory Card
-Uncharted (Retail)
-Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus (PSN)
-Ridge Racer (PSN)
-2 pack screen protector
-Hori Screen protector (looking like it won't come 'till later)
-Carrying case
-Cradle
Vyse The Legend
Member
It's inevitable. I expect lots of sales on these games after a month or so, once sales flat line.
That's why I'm trying to limit myself to just one or two games. Right now, all I have is Uncharted and WipEout on my radar. However, Virtua Tennis, Katamari, Unit 13, UMvC and Ninja Gaiden are strong candidates too.
BoilersFan23
Member
Blame US retailers. They don't want digital game prices to undercut their physical copy because that takes sales away from them. They only way they can compete is to match the price, which results in low or no profit.
I'm just going to go with the Wifi only system, UMvC3, Lumines, and a memory card to start. Rayman Origins on a portable is very tempting, but I already have it for the 360 and it'll probably drop in price pretty quickly. I'm also going with the download versions of UMvC3 and Lumines, because I can see myself popping in to those games throughout the system's lifespan (I actually just played the original Lumines for an hour earlier today).
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Retailers don't even stock most of the games that PSN still has at launch-day MSRP. Stuff like Tekken 6, which I wouldn't expect to see in most stores and is $20 at Amazon...but $40 on PSN.
Publishers have to be in complete control of their PSN pricing for games that are that old. They don't seem to give a shit. I'm sure it would be more profitable for them if they just cut the damn price to something more attractive for a new Vita owner. I wonder how many copies of Tekken 6 PSP Namco sells per month on PSN at that ridiculous price. Like, 10-15 tops?
I do agree that they need to drop prices on the back catalog more or have sales more often but they are pretty good with sales on the newer stuff like Valkyria Chronicles II was 22.50 with the dlc last month.I have always believed that PSN needs a more aggressive promotional push. Get publishers on board with a Amazon Gold Box styled one super discounted game a day kind of sale. There is no reason for back catalog stuff to still be so expensive....
Valkyria Chronicles II is $39.99.
XOMTOR
Member
As consumers who hold the cash, no I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some form of backward compatibility. If no other manufacturer provided it, then it would perhaps seem out of place but Nintendo, the other major competitor, does very well here. At least being backward compatible one gen should be possible.
Anyway, whether it's unreasonable or not, every feature Sony fails to implement just provides one more reason for the homebrew community to forge full steam ahead towards cracking this thing. Things like PS3 remote play, video out, apps, a decent browser, better media format support, easy PSN account switching and even UMD rips will all be targets. These were the types of deficiencies that were present with the PSP and that the homebrew community mostly solved. I hate to say it but Sony builds great hardware, they're just not very good at the software and marketing/PR side of things.
spectyre
Member
My list from Amazon:
FEB(Yeah, I'm a sucker)
32GB Memory card
Vita in ear headset
Sony 2pk screen protector
Uncharted:GA
Hot Shots
MLB The Show
PSN:
Escape Plan
I went with the Sony screen protectors because I used several different brands for my PSP and wasn't terribly impressed. I bought a PSP-GO this past summer and bought the Sony protectors and I was seriously impressed.
I have been buying a bunch of PSP games of PSN. I can't seem to get through any of them on my GO... I keep telling myself "This will be so much better on the Vita". Now I just have to resist buying every Vita game that comes down the pike until I finish several of them.
FEB(Yeah, I'm a sucker)
32GB Memory card
Vita in ear headset
Sony 2pk screen protector
Uncharted:GA
Hot Shots
MLB The Show
PSN:
Escape Plan
I went with the Sony screen protectors because I used several different brands for my PSP and wasn't terribly impressed. I bought a PSP-GO this past summer and bought the Sony protectors and I was seriously impressed.
I have been buying a bunch of PSP games of PSN. I can't seem to get through any of them on my GO... I keep telling myself "This will be so much better on the Vita". Now I just have to resist buying every Vita game that comes down the pike until I finish several of them.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Finalizedmy launch:
- 3G/Wi-Fi launch bundle
- 32 GB memory card
- Starter Kit
- Vita/USB cable
- Vita cradle
- Hot Shots Golf (PSN)
- Lumines (PSN)
I'm leaning towards downloading Virtua Tennis too, hace to think on that. And I'll rent a copy if Uncharted from Gamefly too. Everything is paid in full except for the PSN games. I realize I'll have a 4GB cars from the started kit, I'll just sell/trade-in to go towards Gravity Rush.
The week between the 15th and 22nd is going be looooong.
- 3G/Wi-Fi launch bundle
- 32 GB memory card
- Starter Kit
- Vita/USB cable
- Vita cradle
- Hot Shots Golf (PSN)
- Lumines (PSN)
I'm leaning towards downloading Virtua Tennis too, hace to think on that. And I'll rent a copy if Uncharted from Gamefly too. Everything is paid in full except for the PSN games. I realize I'll have a 4GB cars from the started kit, I'll just sell/trade-in to go towards Gravity Rush.
The week between the 15th and 22nd is going be looooong.
graywolf323
Member
how exactly is the homebrew community going to make video out happen...
Seriously, some people give too much credit to homebrew community.
Was it known that some GameStop stores have a Vita demo unit? My local store in Sterling, VA did. Had some demos for Uncharted, Wipeout, Little Deviants, Modnation Racers, and some others. I haven't been following this stuff much so my apologies if it's been mentioned already.
I really don't understand what some people expect with Backwards Compatibility issue. Sony never said the Vita would have BC. They NEEDED to get rid of the UMD format and did that. They still allow you to download PSP games PSN. And with the exception of selling it, you still have your PSP. A trade-in program would be nice, but that's it. You're not entitled to be able to play your PSP games on the Vita.
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