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What are you reading? (February 2012)

This is definitely on my list of "must read it before I die." A friend of mine recommended it to me a year or so ago, and lauded it pretty highly. Seems that may critics and readers agree with her too.

Considering you're a pretty religious guy (from what I can recall), you will definitely like it. Seriously, read it ASAP. I'm not religious myself, but I can respect plenty of things about it and I enjoyed the novel immensely.
 
I read Canticle for the first time last year and I think it's really overrated. I could barely get through the third act because it's just so horrible.

It's very dated, very heavy on the Catholic Church, the highly praised repeating themes and such aren't all that profound now. I dunno, it was probably amazing for its time, but it hasn't aged well, imo. I kind of wish I would have just read the first act and then quit.

I also felt it didn't really live up to all the acclaim it has, but personally I thought the third act was pretty much the only really interesting part of the book.
 
I also felt it didn't really live up to all the acclaim it has, but personally I thought the third act was pretty much the only really interesting part of the book.



Maybe I was just too frustrated with it at that point to really give it a chance. I mainly just wanted it to be over so I could cross it off my list.
 

Jenga

Banned
the bible is on my "must read before i die" list


which means "ill always put it off until the day i die"
 
I don't see why being religious would make any difference. Great book, I quite enjoyed it.

Some of the arguments in the book and also the whole idea of a monastery keeping knowledge intact I could see rubbing some atheists the wrong way (the militant ones)? I'm not surprised you enjoyed it, you're a cool guy.
 

Alucard

Banned
Considering you're a pretty religious guy (from what I can recall), you will definitely like it. Seriously, read it ASAP. I'm not religious myself, but I can respect plenty of things about it and I enjoyed the novel immensely.

I'm not all that religious to be honest, but I was raised Catholic, so I would likely get a lot of out of the book.
 

Salazar

Member
To be fair, sex scenes seem to be particularly difficult to pull off in literature.

I tend to only remember the comical ones.

Martin Amis wrote a good one (writing about sex, rather than a direct sex scene as such) early on in The Rachel Papers - but it was intended to be cringe-inducing, so its merit is sort of qualified.

The sex in The Dice Man was pretty well written with a sort of low ironical contempt.

As ever, Goodkind is the master.
 
Blitzed through the first two books in Peter F. Hamilton's Void trilogy, which I am finally getting around to reading a good year after Pandora's Star / Judas Unchained.

Great books.. I was turned off by the
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but they got progressively more interesting as I got deeper into the story. The series so far is every bit as good as the first two books and anyone looking for "more Commonwealth" after reading those books should check out the Void trilogy. It's ace.
 

Fxp

Member
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Started reading yesterday, liking the series so far, quite a page turner.
 

Salazar

Member
I mostly remember back arching. I think that's key.

You're missing the "rape that segues troublingly but effortlessly into not-rape".

I am currently reading

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I picked it up again when an acquaintance asked me - what a ghastly request - to find a poem to read at her grandmother's funeral.
 
I have three great books sitting next to me but I can't find the motivation to read them. Instead I've decided to start watching through 24 LTTP style. BookGAF, how do I motivate myself to start reading again?
 

Mastadon

Banned

Don't Point that Thing at Me by Kyril Bonfiglioli

Good stuff.

Take Harry Flashman, drop him into The Thomas Crown Affair, and you might wind up with something like this. Mortdecai is somewhat less charming than Flashman (though he balances this by also being less, er, rapey), but he has his own style and amusingly mordant wit.

No idea how the author pulls his nuts off the fire for the sequel(s), but no doubt it'll be some ridiculous and fun contrivance.

Great minds think alike. I've just started reading the Mortdecai Trilogy myself, as 2666 really isn't grabbing me thus far. I'm definitely seeing where the comparisons to Wodehouse come from, it's fantastic.
 

FnordChan

Member
This is a rather specific request, but does anyone know of any good books narrated from the viewpoint of a dog?

This isn't quite what you're looking for, but I did think of A Fire Upon The Deep by Vernor Vinge. It has a space opera setting with some interesting aliens, with large chunks of the book being written from the viewpoint of dog-like aliens called Tines. The Tines are fascinating and, even if this isn't quite the dog viewpoint book you wanted, A Fire Upon The Deep is still one hell of a read.

Cyan and Mastadon, glad to see you guys are enjoying the Mortdecai novels!

FnordChan
 
This is a rather specific request, but does anyone know of any good books narrated from the viewpoint of a dog?

There's a detective series, with the dog narrarating. First one is called Dog On It, I think.

I believe The Art of Racing in the Rain is also told by the family dog.
 

bengraven

Member
Started this and interesting so far
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This was my first Kindle purchase. I was sitting alone in my new house at the counter late one night and reading the sample. Within three pages I had bought it and read until about 3am.

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Currently listening to "The Magicians" about 1/3rd way thru..its well not really grabbing me in any meaningful way.
I find the book really lacks in enjoyable dialog ..its mostly descriptive 3rd person story telling, and when there is any dialog it seems to portray all teenagers are douchey..
Hope it gets better but seems to be firmly in the EH guess its ok category.


You're not the first person I've seen that says the dialogue is douchey. I got that feeling from the first few pages I read.

Disappointing. I'll still go back and read it someday, but there's one thing I really hate in novels, like my #1 most hated trend, and that's bad teenage dialogue.
 

sgossard

Member
This is a rather specific request, but does anyone know of any good books narrated from the viewpoint of a dog?

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Idjit Galoot has a problem. He escaped from his master's house for a brief romp around town, seeking out easy targets such as bitches in heat, fresh roadkill and unguarded garbage cans. When he returns to his house, the aged basset hound discovers that his master has packed up their belongings and moved to Florida without him. "Smashed, Squashed, Splattered, Chewed, Chunked and Spewed" is the story of Idjit Galoot's ne'er do well owner and his efforts to work his way back to the dog that he loves. Along the way, Idjit's owner encounters Christian terrorists, swamp-dwelling taxidermists, carnies, a b-list poopie-groupie, bluesmen on the run from a trickster deity, and the Florida Skunk Ape.

Haven't read it, but it's in my to-read list. Sounds fun. I gather it's at least partially narrated by the dog.
 

Alucard

Banned
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How is this book? What is the premise? And is the series maintaining a certain standard of quality? I know there is a sequel that's been out a while now too.
 
This is definitely on my list of "must read it before I die." A friend of mine recommended it to me a year or so ago, and lauded it pretty highly. Seems that may critics and readers agree with her too.
It's one of my all time favorite books and one of the top two of my favorite PA genre books.

This is a rather specific request, but does anyone know of any good books narrated from the viewpoint of a dog?
Yes actually .. The Art of Racing in the Rain. Very quick, light read but it was interesting.


Don't Point that Thing at Me by Kyril Bonfiglioli

Good stuff.

Take Harry Flashman, drop him into The Thomas Crown Affair, and you might wind up with something like this. Mortdecai is somewhat less charming than Flashman (though he balances this by also being less, er, rapey), but he has his own style and amusingly mordant wit.

No idea how the author pulls his nuts off the fire for the sequel(s), but no doubt it'll be some ridiculous and fun contrivance.

Have had this in my Amazon cart for a few months now and have just been itching to pull the trigger but haven't yet. Flashman in modern times sounds good though.
 
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How is this book? What is the premise? And is the series maintaining a certain standard of quality? I know there is a sequel that's been out a while now too.

It's one of my favorites, actually. The book takes place in a Venice-like city and follows a crew of robbers as they attempt a big heist. Really good stuff...the sequel wasn't as good as the first but it was still an excellent read. I highly recommend them both. If you have any other questions feel free to ask
 

bengraven

Member
It's one of my favorites, actually. The book takes place in a Venice-like city and follows a crew of robbers as they attempt a big heist. Really good stuff...the sequel wasn't as good as the first but it was still an excellent read. I highly recommend them both. If you have any other questions feel free to ask

Basically this.

Imagine Oliver Twist meets Flashman meets Ocean's Eleven in a fantasy version of Venice.
 

Alucard

Banned
It sounds great, and I know many on here have read it and loved it. I will definitely add it to my ever-growing list. I've got about 20 books on my shelf that I need to get through first, though.

Also, what's Flashman? I've seen it posted numerous times as well. Is it fantasy? Science fiction? Historical adventure?
 

t-ramp

Member
Ah, I can't believe I forgot him.

I think my favorite those (well, not counting all of the rapes and almost-rapes!) would be the Drefan/Richard/Kahlan switcheroo in Temple of the Winds. Mostly for the reveal.
I read several of the Sword of Truth books, but kind of quit because I didn't have enough time and it was getting too philosophical, though. However, the part with Denna in the first book was quite an incredible read, despite being rather ridiculous, I suppose.
 

FnordChan

Member
Also, what's Flashman? I've seen it posted numerous times as well. Is it fantasy? Science fiction? Historical adventure?

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The Flashman novels by George MacDonald Fraser are historical fiction about a scoundrel named Harry Flashman who joins a British cavalry regiment just in time to enjoy the First Afghan War. Flash gets through this ordeal by lying, cheating, whoring, fleeing, drinking, and generally being a cad of epic proportions. The series follows his adventures through major historical moments of the second half of the 19th century, with highlights including Flashy's take on The Prisoner of Zenda, Flash experiencing the American slave trade from all sides, fun and excitement during the Crimean War, the Charge of the Light Brigade, the Indian Mutiny, and much more.

Flashman proves that the best way to appreciate historical fiction is to have it being told from the point of view of a complete ass, which makes for highly amusing reading. There's a nice omnibus edition of three Flashman novels available for a reasonable price on Amazon.

FnordChan
 

Alucard

Banned
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The Flashman novels by George MacDonald Fraser are historical fiction about a scoundrel named Harry Flashman who joins a British cavalry regiment just in time to enjoy the First Afghan War. Flash gets through this ordeal by lying, cheating, whoring, fleeing, drinking, and generally being a cad of epic proportions. The series follows his adventures through major historical moments of the second half of the 19th century, with highlights including Flashy's take on The Prisoner of Zenda, Flash experiencing the American slave trade from all sides, fun and excitement during the Crimean War, the Charge of the Light Brigade, the Indian Mutiny, and much more.

Flashman proves that the best way to appreciate historical fiction is to have it being told from the point of view of a complete ass, which makes for highly amusing reading. There's a nice omnibus edition of three Flashman novels available for a reasonable price on Amazon.

FnordChan

Thank you for the detailed description. It sounds like enjoyable entertainment with a dose of history. I'm not gripped by the idea right now, but I may be at a later date. It's good to know that it's out there.
 

ThankeeSai

Member
Currently re-reading this -

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Brief description from Wiki for those who might not have heard of it -

The format and structure of the novel is unconventional, with unusual page layout and style, making it ergodic literature. It contains copious footnotes, many of which contain footnotes themselves, and some of which reference books that do not exist. Some pages contain only a few words or lines of text, arranged in strange ways to mirror the events in the story, often creating both an agoraphobic and a claustrophobic effect. The novel is also distinctive for its multiple narrators, who interact with each other throughout the story in disorienting and elaborate ways.

House of Leaves begins with a first-person narrative by Johnny Truant, a Los Angeles tattoo parlor employee. Truant is searching for a new apartment when his friend Lude tells him about the apartment of the recently deceased Zampanò, a blind, elderly man who lived in Lude's building.

In Zampanò's apartment, Truant discovers a manuscript written by Zampanò that turns out to be an academic study of a documentary film called The Navidson Record.

The rest of the novel incorporates several narratives, including Zampanò's report on the fictional film; Truant's autobiographical interjections; a small transcript of part of the film from Navidson's brother, Tom; a small transcript of interviews of many people regarding The Navidson Record by Navidson's partner, Karen; and occasional brief notes by unidentified editors, all woven together by a mass of footnotes. There is also another narrator, Truant's mother, whose voice is presented through a self-contained set of letters titled The Whalestoe Letters. Each narrator's text is printed in a distinct font, making it easier for the reader to follow the occasionally challenging format of the novel (Truant in Courier New in the footnotes, and the main narrative in Times New Roman in the American version).

Typography

Page 134 from the book House of Leaves, an example of the typography used in the novel.The text of the book is arranged on the pages in such a way that the method of reading the words sometimes mimics the feelings of the characters or the situations in the novel. While characters are navigating claustrophobic labyrinthine sections of the house's interior, the text is densely, confusingly packed into small corners of each page; later, while a character is running desperately from an unseen enemy, there are only a few words on each page for almost 25 pages, causing the reader's pace to quicken as he flips page after page to learn what will happen next.

The unorthodox typography and arrangement of chapters or sections is similar to works by Milorad Pavić, allowing the reader to jump around from section to section at will while following footnotes or the multilayered narrative.

An example of how some of the pages look -

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Not all pages are laid out quite like this one, but most pages are set out in a different way than you would see in most normal books.

The amount of work that’s gone into this is pretty staggering tbh.

Enjoyed it the first time around, but skimmed some of it due to the amount of footnotes etc. Re-reading and trying to cover as much as possible this time.
 

bloodydrake

Cool Smoke Luke
This is a rather specific request, but does anyone know of any good books narrated from the viewpoint of a dog?

This is suppose to be a really good book.
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Publisher's Summary
Enzo knows he is different from other dogs: a philosopher with a nearly human soul (and an obsession with opposable thumbs), he has educated himself by watching television extensively and by listening very closely to the words of his master, Denny Swift, an up-and-coming race car driver.

Through Denny, Enzo has gained tremendous insight into the human condition. He sees that life, like racing, isn't simply about going fast. Using the techniques needed on the race track, one can successfully navigate all of life's ordeals.
 

ultron87

Member
Currently re-reading this -

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I like House of Leaves for everything it does with the text, how it argues for having a physical book as a relevant medium, and for the actual Navidson Record sections.

The Truant frame story is a waste.
 

ThankeeSai

Member
I like House of Leaves for everything it does with the text, how it argues for having a physical book as a relevant medium, and for the actual Navidson Record sections.

The Truant frame story is a waste.


Agreed. I skimmed a lot of the Truant sections to get back to the Navidson Record parts.

The Truant sections started out intruiging enough, but they definitely started to grate as the book went on.

That said, I still enjoyed it a lot.
 
It's one of my all time favorite books and one of the top two of my favorite PA genre books.


This makes me think I am just not getting it or missing something. Eh, I dunno.



I tend to only remember the comical ones.

Martin Amis wrote a good one (writing about sex, rather than a direct sex scene as such) early on in The Rachel Papers - but it was intended to be cringe-inducing, so its merit is sort of qualified.

The sex in The Dice Man was pretty well written with a sort of low ironical contempt.

As ever, Goodkind is the master.


Haha.. nicely done.
 
You're right, they don't just come out and say it. But
she remembers back tot the plans he was working on with Beetee and his idea of double bombing. Shes asked him if it was one of his bombs and he says "Does it really matter?" I took it to mean she he was involved especially after his actions and rage at bringing down/killing all the people in the mountain. They said she near the end that's when she realized she didn't need that rage from him to keep her going. It may have been different if he showed up in 12 at the end instead of Peeta.

Thanks - now that you mention it that sounds familiar. It's great to hear a different perspective on the ending.

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I just finished Sanshiro and I really liked it. It felt like a combination between the humor and absurdity of I Am a Cat, the youthfulness of Botchan and the melancholy of Kokoro. It’s not as beautiful or tender as Kokoro and it doesn’t delve quite as deeply into relationships, but it has some moving moments. If you’ve read other Soseki and enjoyed it, definitely pick this one up, but if you haven’t, I still think I Am a Cat is the best place to start.

It also has a really cool introduction by Murakami where talks about his history with the book (I read it after finishing the novel, though, as I didn't want his opinion to influence my own).

Now on to the 3rd of the Tales of the Otori
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I really enjoyed the first book (Across the Nightingale Floor) but felt like the second was a step in the wrong direction. Hopefully this one is better.
 
Currently re-reading this -

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Brief description from Wiki for those who might not have heard of it -



An example of how some of the pages look -

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Not all pages are laid out quite like this one, but most pages are set out in a different way than you would see in most normal books.

The amount of work that’s gone into this is pretty staggering tbh.

Enjoyed it the first time around, but skimmed some of it due to the amount of footnotes etc. Re-reading and trying to cover as much as possible this time.

As I mentioned before I've come to the point of quitting this book about 3 times and I'm barely in chapter VII. The last time, I had to decipher a message from a letter in the one of the appendices by taking the first letter of every word. After 20 minutes of work, it all amounted to an incomprehensible babble. I'm just going to take the book for what it is, an exercise in style with little substance (so far). Unless it dramatically picks up, this is destined to be the book I dreaded the most reading in the past 10 years.
 

RubxQub

φίλω ἐξεχέγλουτον καί ψευδολόγον οὖκ εἰπόν
I just finished the first book too. :D Thought it was pretty great. Moving onto the next one soon as well.

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I'm about 10% through WoA already and I'm finally getting past the "re-establish the world" parts. A bit frustrating to immediately pick up the next book in the series and have them spend a considerable amount of time fleshing out the world again for a new reader. I get why it's done, but it makes the start of the book drag a bit.

Things are getting awesome again, though so I'm right back into it!
 

Nezumi

Member
Only to more books to go before I can finally read Snuff. Did my re-reading of the other books in like 1 1/2 days per book, so I'm quite confident I will be able to enjoy Pratchett's latest piece next week.
 

Keen

Aliens ate my babysitter
Finished Orb Sceptre Throne, and I feel...disappointed tbh. I think it might be Esslemont's weakest book so far. It was good sure, but I kinda expected more given the synopsis. Some good scenes, but overall it fizzled out instead of the going out with the usual bang.

Plus some weird decisions:

K'rul being a woman, for no apparent reason whatsoever. Malazan marines suddenly becoming squeamish about the use of Moranth munitions. To mention a few


Now back to the Dresden Files
 
As I mentioned before I've come to the point of quitting this book about 3 times and I'm barely in chapter VII. The last time, I had to decipher a message from a letter in the one of the appendices by taking the first letter of every word. After 20 minutes of work, it all amounted to an incomprehensible babble. I'm just going to take the book for what it is, an exercise in style with little substance (so far). Unless it dramatically picks up, this is destined to be the book I dreaded the most reading in the past 10 years.

I thought the book was okay, but I wouldn't read too deeply into it. I talked to the author about this and he seemed just interested in experimenting with the idea of a "book" and not that interested in the actual coherence of the story.
 
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