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The *Definitive* PSP RPGs for Vita Thread
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SpaceBridge
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Well I hope Grimmy does come back to post, he added to the conversation.
You will never see BbS for the digital release. Ever.
So I started TiTS today. It's inoffensive so far. Really slow start though. The battle system seems solid.
Still tempted to pick up an Ys game despite what I posted earlier in this thread. Might go with Oath in Felghana since people are saying it's a shorter game.
For those who have played both, what are Ys Seven's strengths, and conversely what are Oath in Felghana's strengths?
Still tempted to pick up an Ys game despite what I posted earlier in this thread. Might go with Oath in Felghana since people are saying it's a shorter game.
For those who have played both, what are Ys Seven's strengths, and conversely what are Oath in Felghana's strengths?
SpaceBridge
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Yes, Garnet Chronicle should be the JP title if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, TiTs takes a long while to get going, but once it does it really does...for the most part. Also, to offer my experience as an example, I went into Ys Seven right after TiTs, saying myself to be on a Falcom kick, and while I enjoyed the mechanics, a lot, I couldn't get over just how little the world/characters were developed in comparison. If I could do it all over, I'd give them some breathing room. Somebody better acquainted with the series can give you the pros/cons of the individual Ys entries.
SpaceBridge
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At what point would you say Trails picks up?
The first Trails game is like a lengthy prologue for an amazing saga that covers many games. Sadly, the first game doesn't REALLY pick up until chapter 3 or so. But even before that, I think it's pretty enjoyable, if you're into globetrotting RPGs like Grandia at least. Just about everyone I know who thought the game started slow ended up falling in love with the game by the end, though.
Yeah, I agree with Aeana; the game doesn't really get into a groove and stay there till I'd say even the end~ of chapter 3, with chapter 4 being incredibly fun all the way through. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of entertaining moments beforehand however. Oliver pretty much makes the game himself once you get him, and that's the first chapter, I believe. It's just not consistent...
The slow start in Trails is really getting to me. I'm going to trudge along, but this is why I dislike so many jrpgs. I want it to be fun now, not 4 hours from now.
This better be worth it. -_-
It's definitely worth it.
Seven's battle system is more modern, with upgrade-able special moves like in the Tales series.
Felghana is old school Ys. You've got a jump button and special abilities that are actually useful in the field. It's a bit like playing Castlevania, especially in the dungeons.
I prefer Felghana mainly because the platforming allows for more interesting levels and boss battles. The story and music are better too IMO.
SpaceBridge
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How many hours then? Someone mentioned 4.
Dammit...I'm going to buy another PSP game.
I should've gone digital sooner, lol. I figured I'd still play my PSP once I got my Vita, but that isn't something I look forward to doing.
I'll back that up. While I certainly enjoyed the first half of the game, it really picked up after that and has left me thoroughly hungry for more.
I felt the same way when I started TiTS but it gradually picked up. I love the game's world and the battle system is rather great. By the end, I was ready to sell my organs so that SC would be localized.
As for the strengths of the Ys games:
Ys Seven is easily the prettier and more expansive game. There's much more story than there is in Oath in Felghana (which, again, I dislike, but I seem to be the odd man out) and the world of Ys Seven is much larger. The towns are much bigger than those in Oath in Felghana and they're all rather cool to explore. Ys Seven trades off jumping for a party based system which is rather interesting, and the three different types of attacks (ranged, blunt, and pierce) all feel genuinely different. The game has a bit of a Monster Hunter feel to it, too. There are multiple quests (none of which are particularly interesting) to tackle, the game has quite a bit of loot, and there are multiple high-level monsters scattered throughout the map that are fun to take on. It's also rather lengthy. I'd say I'm about 75% done with the game and I've already put 25 hours into it.
Oath in Felghana, on the other hand, is a much tighter game. The story focuses on a single town, as opposed to an entire region, and all the characters are distinct. Unlike in Ys Seven, each line of dialogue is voice-acted too, and the voice acting is, for the most part, rather good. Oath isn't pretty as Seven, and looks about the same as TiTS, which makes sense as they're both PC ports. The dungeons are fewer in number, but they're more interesting than those in Oath in Felghana, mostly because of the platforming (which I really adore). The bosses are much, much better than those in Seven. Their attacks are more varied and they're simply more interesting overall; the final boss fight has a
pinball-esque
Personally, I'd recommend Oath in Felghana over Seven. A few hours into Oath in Felghana, I immediately rushed back to the store and bought Seven because I knew I needed more Ys.
hosannainexcelsis
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I loved Trails in the Sky from its opening all the way to the end. Its pacing may be slow, but that is a strength as it makes the characters and world believable and the climax that much more gripping.
Yeah, screen's so much nicer that it's not really desirable to go back, a dramatic reversal of the DS/3DS where playing on a 3DS is a last resort and only done because I wanted my DSiware on the newer system to consolidate the DD stuff. If the 3000 at least didn't look washed out compared to the Vita or if the Vita's scaling were worse then there'd definitely be cause to keep with the PSP.
Still, a lot of the time I went for physical there were some bonuses that weren't there for digital. Maybe if, say, P2 had an MP3 collection of the CD songs it'd be fine, or if the Ys bonuses weren't around then I could've easily gone with digital, but almost every physical game I got for the PSP lately had either that or price as an incentive. And frankly, I think I only regret it most for 3rd Birthday, would've really benefited from being on the Vita versus the PSP and stuck to a single stick.
Got Breath of Fire 3 a great game, but sadly the psp version is straight port from ps1 down to the lack of sub-pixel accuracy during rendering.
With this little change the game would have looked a lot better than it currently does, mostly due to improved stability of the image.
I would love that the future ps1 emulation would add little improvements like this, but i'm sceptical about that.
With this little change the game would have looked a lot better than it currently does, mostly due to improved stability of the image.
I would love that the future ps1 emulation would add little improvements like this, but i'm sceptical about that.
Agreed. It needs the slow start to develop the characters. You care more about them when the plot starts moving towards the end.
Some of the conversations at the beginning have a lot more importance than you might think, but you won't realise it yet.
I see a little drama has struck our sub-sub-community, for shame. Alas, in the hustle and bustle no one has addressed my humble little question, I shall repeat it, and if no one answers I'm going to delete the whole thread, maybe Gaming Discussion too.
There's some story progression, and progressing along a grid in the original. The meat is just in arena battles though, yes.
Cool thanks, and 012 has the original in it complete right?
damn, 34.99 on the IT store
i'll wait for a price drop at this point
too many games to play already
That's what I've been hearing, yes. I have no hands on experience with the prequel except with the prologue demo though.
chaosblade
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All three Ys games worth playing on the PSP (I'd get Ark of Napishtim elsewhere if possible, like the PC version if XSEED manages to release that since it's by far the best) are very different, and all of them have their own strengths and weaknesses. So if you end up not liking whatever game you start with or have some complaints, it's still likely that you would like one or both of the other games. Ys as a whole is pretty much the opposite of Trails in the Sky in most ways. Fast paced action vs slow turn-based combat, emphasis on combat vs emphasis on story, shorter games vs long games, etc.
Others have covered the differences pretty well. Seven has some more traditional RPG measures thrown in like upgradable skills, lots of weapons to find and buy, a crafting system, etc. It's also significantly easier than both Oath in Felghana and Chronicles, and it's the only game where you have multiple playable characters. It's long, there's more text and story than most Ys games, and admitted this does get in the way toward the beginning. But once you're an hour or so in things are good until the last third or fourth of the game when it does drag a bit. Still, it's very fun to play despite those niggles, and works pretty well as a "My first Ys" type game.
Oath in Felghana is the better game on most counts, but it's tougher. Jumping means some platforming elements, no party members, less micromanagement, and lots of focus on some great dungeon designs and action. It's short and to the point, the story isn't great, but it's not very intrusive. This and Ys Origin (which plays very similarly) are my two favorite Ys games, and probably break my all time top-10 favorite games list.
Chronicles is old school and a bit archaic, but I wouldn't change a thing about it. No attack button for melee attacks, but Ys II does have a button to fire magic, instead you tactically ram into enemies to hit them. Not very story heavy and super cliche, but that's about what you would expect out of a game from the mid-late 80s. Ys I is kind of meh, but it's short with an old school challenge. Ys II is fantastic though, and probably my third favorite game in the series. Overall it's just a really charming, old-school experience.
As for Trails, yeah, it's pretty slow for the first half of the game. But damn if the second half isn't excellent. If SC and beyond follow in the footsteps the second half of Trails FC, this is certainly one of the best RPG series out there. Not that the beginning of the game is kind of bad, it just doesn't really motivate you with a "big story" like most RPGs do and as a result it causes some people to find it boring. But the events at the beginning of the game are still important, the game does a great job tying everything together.
Similar enough, probably. You never know if something can be different just enough to turn hate/apathy into love, but if you didn't care for FFT it's a safe bet Tactics Ogre won't be your thing either.
Lies, I tell you! Though I believe it's listed as R-Type Tactics.
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Wow, what a fucking awesome OP. Jeanne D'arc and Tactics Orge are so mine
krimsoncharge
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is WKC:Origins any good? always wanted to play the PS3 versions but for some reason or other skipped it. how does the psp version stack up?
and also, does anyone know why Metal gear solid: Peace Walker doesnt show up on the Indian PSN store.
and also, does anyone know why Metal gear solid: Peace Walker doesnt show up on the Indian PSN store.
xxczx
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Avoid. It's really terrible compared to WKC on PS3 and it's not developed by Level-5.
chaosblade
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Agreed. Pretty easily my favorite PSP game. Only one I've double dipped on for Vita so far.
Callibretto
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holy shit, either I suck really bad, or 3rd Birthday is really hard. died a lot in mission 1, got D rating, decided to replay that mission again, 0 death, and still only got C rating.
archnemesis
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I never got good at The 3rd Birthday. If I ever feel like playing it again I'll definitely put on easy mode.
Baloonatic
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I seem to remember it being a tough game, especially the bosses.
LiquidMetal14
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Legend of Heroes picks up nicely into Ch1 in my opinion.
I just hit Ch3 last night. I put the game down for a little and then ended up selling my PSP so I haven't had a chance to get back to it. It's already been interesting but it's definitely ramping up.
I would definitely recommend that and Oath in Felghana for a good Ys experience. You can tackle the series in the best chronological order as well and get Ys 1&2 and even get hardcore and get the awesome Origins on PC as that's technically the one to start with and plays like Oath.Thanks guys, I bought Ys Seven. Will be my first Ys game, looking forward to it and I hope I made the right choice
darkjedi187
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which Disgaea is better 1 or 2. Thought about picking one up since they are on sale at GS.
Disgaea.
You can easily put 200 hours into the game (you don't have to) without getting bored.
But honestly you can't do that much wrong with either of these games. Just be sure to look them up on youtube, cause even though they're all RPGs they're also all quite unique.