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Welcome! PS Vita Game Paradise - Stream Thread [Wut Stream]
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Okay, so do you really expect the 3DS to capture all 19 million PSP owners in one year/ That's a bit too optimistic, don't you think?
My point is the 3DS is the PSP2 to the developers, and that's what it will present itself as to the consumers as well. Over time, the entire PSP userbase WILL migrate to the 3DS instead of the Vita, especially given current trends.
Metallix87
Member
This should not have been advertised at all. This was basically a waste of time. Two games were announced, one of which isn't coming until 2013, and then we got a release date for a game that was announced a while back.
This was really disappointing. Sony basically admitted to having NOTHING for Japan for the foreseeable future.
Really? Do elaborate on this one, because four ports, three of which were already announced, doesn't look very reassuring to me.
It has done 1/4th of the PSP's userbase in one year. It's pretty clear the 3DS is being bought by not just those who owned a DS, but those who also owned a PSP. That said, that doesn't mean people cannot buy a Vita as well. It means Sony has to give them a reason to.
Callibretto
Member
Honestly, other than the way this was presented nothing here was really bad. It highlighted some new releases, as well as some announcements of things to come that aren't big enough to deserve a live event.
I guess expectations are something that should've been in play here. It was billed as a web cast which usually signifies lower importance. We should be happy Sony didn't make a conference and announce this, haha!
I can't believe this. I have to rely on you of all people to cheer me up after this vita heaven thing...
I sure hope Sony have some plans for Vita in the future...
shinra-bansho
Member
PSP+PSV 2012 YTD < PSP 2011 YTD
3DS+DS 2012 YTD > 3DS+DS 2011 YTD
Gives some indication that the 3DS is picking up potential PSP customers, I think.
Also, Panic Mode Sony = Surprisingly zen troll Sony?
3DS+DS 2012 YTD > 3DS+DS 2011 YTD
Gives some indication that the 3DS is picking up potential PSP customers, I think.
Also, Panic Mode Sony = Surprisingly zen troll Sony?
Nah... Sony basically admitted to having NOTHING for Japan beyond what was/is already planned for the major events. They are trying to look for more goodies, beyond what they already have in their basket.
Of course not. But your statement was erroneous and I thought it to be wise to point that out. How is it the PSP2, again? Capcom's pretty much the only one treating it like that. I'm not seeing tons of hunting game clones on the system. At all (which is what the PSP is plagued with). Nor am I seeing tons of games aimed at an older userbase. Instead, I'm seeing developers treat it like the successor to the DS. Luckily, that's what the system is.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
This is such a stupid comment. Glad the armchair analysts of GAF have the answer to Sony's sales woes figured out; Just make new brands that sell millions!
I mean, how much easier can it be Sony?
I dunno, I'd say Square Enix (Kingdom hearts 3D), Atlus (Etrian Odyssey IV), Namco (Tekken 3D Prime), Tecmo (Dead or Alive: Dimensions), Konami (Metal Gear Solid 3D), all see the system as a viable PSP successor. With time, we will see the 3DS's library flooded with those monster hunting clones as well.
As for games targeted at a mature audience... well, there's Metal Gear, there's Resident Evil, there's Dead or Alive, there's a surprising number of games, actually.
share your thoughts
http://commu.jp.playstation.com/blog/details/20120309_psvita_tengoku.html
http://commu.jp.playstation.com/blog/details/20120309_psvita_tengoku.html
ShinNL
Member
Kingdom Hearts 3D, Metal Gear Solid, herp. Not just Capcom, derp.
Edit: *shakes fist @ pramath for providing a longer list*
Honestly that was incredibly embarrassing for all of those outlets. Even gamasutra? Really?
Yeah, your criticism of my comment would make sense if Sony was a relative newcomer in the market. But as someone who's been here since before 1994, and understands the workings and machinations of this industry, I'm sorry, nothing gets them off the chopping block. They should have realized the power of BRANDS, and they should have done something to build a few. The fact that they didn't IS remarkably short sighted, no matter how much you try to belittle my post.
Aside form the small overall number of copies sold, you need to consider how many of those PSV buyers actually had a 3DS but chose to purchase the PSV version for the HD screen.
You have to wonder why Sony wasn't going to Japanese developers about 1-2 years ago and pushing the idea of making Vita versions of their projects.
Or, for instance, going to IOS developers en mass and saying 'hey, with the Vita you have can have dedicated gamers looking at your game, that's worth something!'. A recent and perfect example is how the third person IOS Mass Effect game ISN'T coming to Vita, digitally or otherwise.
Oh right, Sony is terrible at third party relations, never mind.
Or, for instance, going to IOS developers en mass and saying 'hey, with the Vita you have can have dedicated gamers looking at your game, that's worth something!'. A recent and perfect example is how the third person IOS Mass Effect game ISN'T coming to Vita, digitally or otherwise.
Oh right, Sony is terrible at third party relations, never mind.
We're going to need a few translated reactions to get a gist of the overall response. Though I doubt the reception it's getting across the pond is any different than what we're seeing here.
KH was on DS, and MGS3 is on Vita. :/
RyougaSaotome
Member
About what everyone was expecting over in the predictions thread. Looks like we nailed it pretty closely! Lack of PSX support still is a bummer but oh well.
Pureauthor
Member
I think far more telling than what they didn't announce was what they did announce.
PSO2 - a 2013 game
Some vague idea about SRW
Some vague idea about an Inafune game
Yep, brilliant showcase there, Sony.
PSO2 - a 2013 game
Some vague idea about SRW
Some vague idea about an Inafune game
Yep, brilliant showcase there, Sony.
They're disappointed.
for the Vita in Japan? looks like it, until something happens on TGS
Very negative. Harsher than most of the posts in this thread. lol
demosthenes
Member
*wake up*.
Wow, Sony is just completely screwed how could they possibly be this incompetent.
Wow, Sony is just completely screwed how could they possibly be this incompetent.
ScreenSplitter
Member
So, how's that Monster Hunter guys?
KH3D is definitely made with the 3DS's userbase in mind. It's not like the series is foreign on Nintendo handhelds anyways. Etrian Odyssey was always DS exclusive. And, while I do see the last three brands resonating more-so with Playstation users, I think they were demanded from Nintendo more than anything else (given the quality of each and other factors).
You mean the game with Nintendog minigames and bright, colorful, dumb looking Dream Eaters? Yeah, Square would totally make that game for the Vita. And MGS3D is just an upgraded port that resulted from the reaction of the demo. Call me when a new MGS game comes up for the system (better yet, a Kojima directed one, like PW).
Because copy Nintendo king genres is a recipe for disaster and you need talent to build new experiences.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Lol at people expecting megatons and not sleeping for what Sony called a webcast for upcoming games. They showed said games. Of course most were prior knowledge, because third parties want to announce their games on their terms or on a much bigger stage than than the sea of youtube videos. If you think this is all the vita is getting from Japan then you are dillusional......which goes without saying since some stayed up all night or woke up just for this.
Get real people. If the same thing happens at E3 and TVS and all events in between then you can sound the alarms. But for a youtube event (which still announced 2-3 games) let's be realistic here.
Get real people. If the same thing happens at E3 and TVS and all events in between then you can sound the alarms. But for a youtube event (which still announced 2-3 games) let's be realistic here.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Haha, those JP comments are definitely rough. Way more so than anyone in this thread at times.
Ideally, iOS games should go through PS Suite. That way, the games can be made available on all PS Certified devices, including Android.
I suspect Sony already approached the developers because Vita itself was created heavily based on developer feedback. Ridge Racer developers said it took them 8 month to create the game. Other companies may want to take their time.
I'd be angry too if I had bought the Vita last year and this is what they have shown
dont think SCEJ cares though
every japanese people want MonHun on Vita.. ffs,, SCEJ just doesn't give a damn.. just like the Polyphony translator dudeCan you translate some? lol
DiscoJer
Member
I still don't understand why Sony flew in that guy from Epic to the Vita announcement event, when Epic isn't going to make any games for the Vita, but instead iOS.
And what Sony should have done when it became apparently Capcom was not going to put MH on the Vita was to try to develop their own high quality clone. Start an internal team, maybe poach a few members from Capcom's MH team.
Granted, that approach didn't exactly work with Killzone vs Halo, but Sony at least made a splash with that CGI trailer. Maybe they should have tried something similar? That did have a backlash, but it did likely sell PS3s...and personally at least, Microsoft pretty much neutralized the advantage Sony once had with Gran Turismo with Forza.
Dead Prince
Banned
So i wake up to this. Sony's effort for this is the same when they launched the Vita
dont think SCEJ cares though
Sony can't force Capcom to make a MonHun game.
Ridge Racer and Idolmaster collaborates.
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20120309_517792.html
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20120309_517792.html
Good. Should give them a hard time given the ill-conceived event.
ShinNL
Member
Wasn't really talking about exclusivity or anything. Just addressing the notion that only Capcom is treating the 3DS as a PSP2, which really isn't the case.
And because that was the original point that was being addressed:
This post has no actual meaning whatsoever.
The point is that 3DS is getting games that you would hypothetically expect on a PSP2. And not just from Capcom.
LOL, WTF is this shit? Trolling hard because the game is not on a system of your choice? Haha.
demosthenes
Member
September...
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Wasn't there a story a few weeks ago saying many game developers were putting Vita game development on hold? As a very satisfied Vita customer, the lack of big announcements is sad.