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Haha, nailed it.they expected Taylor Lautner, not Wesley Sniper.
Haha, nailed it.they expected Taylor Lautner, not Wesley Sniper.
Wait, how'd you get the book on iBooks?
Wasn't available the last time I checked..
snookie is dark brown... that skin is brown. by definition of the color. not the racial/ethnic stuff.
If you dont get the point, im playing devils advocate and that the people decrying the idiots who made the tweets are just as dumb. This is a stupid thing for anyone to be paying attention to.
snookie is dark brown... that skin is brown. by definition of the color. not the racial/ethnic stuff.
If you dont get the point, im playing devils advocate and that the people decrying the idiots who made the tweets are just as dumb.
Read that post again. He said non-white.
OMG DARK SKIN!!!!!!
Point is that "dark skin" is vague and can mean anything from a horrible jersey shore tan to the darkest black you can think of.
Edit: For better comparison here is Lily Cole. Pretty much EVERYTHING is darker than her.
they expected Taylor Lautner, not Wesley Sniper.
I haven't read the books but I'm guessing Rue is used to remind Katniss of her sister? So someone could just make the leap that they are similar in appearance including skin color.
Or maybe people just default to whatever their norm is in the absence of a description. Does that make them racist?
I thought Rue and Thresh were black. How could they have missed that part?
I could care less about casting a white or black person for a specific role in a fictional movie. If it is based on a real story, then yes I would argue that race matters (in context of the role). Eventually all that matters is the performance and this day and age that is the only thing that should matter.
This all reminds me of the casting of Mos Def as Ford Prefect in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Huge uproar for nothing, Def played the role wonderfully.
Just for you Stump.Your original point was the exact opposite of saying "this is stupid to pay attention to"--it was that you personally experienced a weird moment when a white role was cast black and you thought this was a comparable situation. At this point you specifically separated the obviously racist n-bomb tweet from the others, which you considered fair game.
When you were then told that this was not a white role cast black, you inexplicably argued that "dark brown" could mean a tan white person (and as people are pointing out, you inaccurately identified her ethnicity, but presumably you posted her to imply she was a tan white person), and so it would still be natural for people to be surprised for a role described as "dark brown" to be cast black.
You were then reminded again that "dark brown" has a certain implication, and then you claimed your point was to "play devil's advocate" and that it's a "stupid thing for anyone to [pay] attention to".
I haven't read the books but I'm guessing Rue is used to remind Katniss of her sister? So someone could just make the leap that they are similar in appearance including skin color.
Or maybe people just default to whatever their norm is in the absence of a description. Does that make them racist?
I would say Rue has light brown skin.
Just for you Stump.
You missed it all then. The original post was, and i will spell it out entirely "that maybe not every single person who posted one of those tweets isnt a racist. furthermore, just because you dont agree with a casting decision doesnt make you a racist."
And dark brown can mean a tanned white person. I could bring out a color palette and everything if you want, but tan is closer to brown than it is orange. You know it. I know it. Anyone who isnt color blind knows it. I was using hyperbole in the case of Snookie because technically she has "dark brown skin" in that picture. It is all a matter of perception. Her skin is darker than mine, than that of Lily Cole, and darker than that of plenty of people. Given the bookes description of Rue being "Dark brown and "dark skin" there are a myriad of ways that can be interpretted given the diverse colors of the human race. Hell you could even say it is an Indian person if you want to go with technicalities on color.
As for the implications of "dark brown"... It goes back to the beginning. If you think that everyone who made those tweets is a racist then you are as dumb/ignorant as they are. As i pointed out, there are a few tweets that are more ignorance and surprise than flat out racist. So for you to make the jump from "OMG RUE IS BLACK?!?!?" to "OMG IM A RACIST PERSON WHO HATES BLACK PEOPLE" is pretty ignorant. You are judging based of a single excerpt. Not exactly the smartest thing a person can do there right? And since everyone here seems to be jumping on the "OMG THESE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" bandwagon, which is usually the case of these threads, i may as well have some fun pointing out that there are always two sides to every story.
You are right man. We live in a postracial world. What was I thinking. Shut this thread down.Just for you Stump.
You missed it all then. The original post was, and i will spell it out entirely "that maybe not every single person who posted one of those tweets isnt a racist. furthermore, just because you dont agree with a casting decision doesnt make you a racist."
And dark brown can mean a tanned white person. I could bring out a color palette and everything if you want, but tan is closer to brown than it is orange. You know it. I know it. Anyone who isnt color blind knows it. I was using hyperbole in the case of Snookie because technically she has "dark brown skin" in that picture. It is all a matter of perception. Her skin is darker than mine, than that of Lily Cole, and darker than that of plenty of people. Given the bookes description of Rue being "Dark brown and "dark skin" there are a myriad of ways that can be interpretted given the diverse colors of the human race. Hell you could even say it is an Indian person if you want to go with technicalities on color.
As for the implications of "dark brown"... It goes back to the beginning. If you think that everyone who made those tweets is a racist then you are as dumb/ignorant as they are. As i pointed out, there are a few tweets that are more ignorance and surprise than flat out racist. So for you to make the jump from "OMG RUE IS BLACK?!?!?" to "OMG IM A RACIST PERSON WHO HATES BLACK PEOPLE" is pretty ignorant. You are judging based of a single excerpt. Not exactly the smartest thing a person can do there right? And since everyone here seems to be jumping on the "OMG THESE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" bandwagon, which is usually the case of these threads, i may as well have some fun pointing out that there are always two sides to every story.
Not shocking. Some people just have a very hard time identifying with any other human being that doesn't have the same amount of melanin in their skin as they do.....
Is this what all the fuss is about? This?
When spend all this energy pointing out that a couple of those might not be racist? It's pretty clear that most of them are.
"Dark brown skin and eyes," should be enough to tell someone that the character is ethnic. And comes from a farming district. And the main character in the book sounds more like a person that is mixed race than white. The only person in the main character's family you can definitely identify as being white is the mother.
The book specifically says that Rue reminds Katniss of her sister in everything BUT her skin color.
The argument you're making now is a lot more reasonable than your first few posts, which were full of derp.Just for you Stump.
You missed it all then. The original post was, and i will spell it out entirely "that maybe not every single person who posted one of those tweets isnt a racist. furthermore, just because you dont agree with a casting decision doesnt make you a racist."
And dark brown can mean a tanned white person. I could bring out a color palette and everything if you want, but tan is closer to brown than it is orange. You know it. I know it. Anyone who isnt color blind knows it. I was using hyperbole in the case of Snookie because technically she has "dark brown skin" in that picture. It is all a matter of perception. Her skin is darker than mine, than that of Lily Cole, and darker than that of plenty of people. Given the bookes description of Rue being "Dark brown and "dark skin" there are a myriad of ways that can be interpretted given the diverse colors of the human race. Hell you could even say it is an Indian person if you want to go with technicalities on color.
As for the implications of "dark brown"... It goes back to the beginning. If you think that everyone who made those tweets is a racist then you are as dumb/ignorant as they are. As i pointed out, there are a few tweets that are more ignorance and surprise than flat out racist. So for you to make the jump from "OMG RUE IS BLACK?!?!?" to "OMG IM A RACIST PERSON WHO HATES BLACK PEOPLE" is pretty ignorant. You are judging based of a single excerpt. Not exactly the smartest thing a person can do there right? And since everyone here seems to be jumping on the "OMG THESE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" bandwagon, which is usually the case of these threads, i may as well have some fun pointing out that there are always two sides to every story.
It's not just the last tweet.2th said:yes the last tweet is racist but the rest arent that bad.
Because it is wrong to lump someone who isnt a racist in with someone who is.
No.Every single one of those tweets are racist. Some try to be nicer in how they say things. Doesn't change the fact that they are racist.
What if twitter was invented so the rest of us would know who to avoid in real life?
/keanu
Well it passes at desribing characters.this is what passes for writing these days?
Every single one of those tweets are racist. Some try to be nicer in how they say things. Doesn't change the fact that they are racist.
Devil's advocate!When spend all this energy pointing out that a couple of those might not be racist? It's pretty clear that most of them are.
And you just reminded me of that certain partGod, I can't see this movie. Fuck that. I don't want to see a certain part.
And you just reminded me of that certain part
Just for you Stump.
You missed it all then. The original post was, and i will spell it out entirely "that maybe not every single person who posted one of those tweets isnt a racist. furthermore, just because you dont agree with a casting decision doesnt make you a racist."
And dark brown can mean a tanned white person. I could bring out a color palette and everything if you want, but tan is closer to brown than it is orange. You know it. I know it. Anyone who isnt color blind knows it. I was using hyperbole in the case of Snookie because technically she has "dark brown skin" in that picture. It is all a matter of perception. Her skin is darker than mine, than that of Lily Cole, and darker than that of plenty of people. Given the bookes description of Rue being "Dark brown and "dark skin" there are a myriad of ways that can be interpretted given the diverse colors of the human race. Hell you could even say it is an Indian person if you want to go with technicalities on color.
As for the implications of "dark brown"... It goes back to the beginning. If you think that everyone who made those tweets is a racist then you are as dumb/ignorant as they are. As i pointed out, there are a few tweets that are more ignorance and surprise than flat out racist. So for you to make the jump from "OMG RUE IS BLACK?!?!?" to "OMG IM A RACIST PERSON WHO HATES BLACK PEOPLE" is pretty ignorant. You are judging based of a single excerpt. Not exactly the smartest thing a person can do there right? And since everyone here seems to be jumping on the "OMG THESE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" bandwagon, which is usually the case of these threads, i may as well have some fun pointing out that there are always two sides to every story.
The argument you're making now is a lot more reasonable than your first few posts.
It's not just the last tweet.
And the Thor comparison demonstrated that you didn't understand what was going on at all.