What sets Takahashi apart is that her female leads have lives.
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Yeah cg berserker isnt as good as berserker from FSN.
Gary Sues are not magical boyfriends. That's just plain shoujo.
I'm talking about an alien/god/magician/fairie that gets involved with some boring normal girl for whatever reason. Hijinx ensue.
hosannainexcelsis
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I like CG Berserker. Can I be your friend?
Yes, we can be buddies on our own CG island, modeled by Sanzigen and Ufotable. The palm trees will have awesome textures! ^^
cosmicblizzard
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There are definitely manga like this. Can't remember any names right now though, but I remember a shoujo with some dude that transformed into a tiger or something.
Arjuna.
Counts, I guess.
Chris is magical at the very least.
AND there are hijinx.
In DearS there are DearS that are male. That would also count if the manga focused on a male DearS and his female master or whatever.
firehawk12
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Well, I guess it depends on whether you consider fantasy as "magical".
Brave 10 had this rather useless protagonist who basically collects sexy and powerful men that protect her.
hosannainexcelsis
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Isn't that every reverse harem ever?
Unknown Soldier
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I regret to inform you that CG Berserker in F/Z was totally fucking awesome. My love for him was like a truck. The swirly dust effects, the way the lighting seemed to fall into him, the choreography of his movements and the overall scenes he was in were all amazing.
And then again, we have...
Fate/Stay Night 1:
LOL DEEN
The animation quality, while it was probably pretty decent for the budget and considering it's DEEN, it's such a far cry from what I saw ufotable doing just now that it's amazing that these two shows are from the same franchise, much less in the same category we call 'animation'. It's not quite Shaft levels of not-animated but compared to what ufotable was able to accomplish it's pretty saddening to witness.
The character design for Shirou is, to put it as flatteringly as possible, a bit homely. Sakura and Rin look pretty much as I expected they would 10 years later, if their budget was also 1/10th of what it was previously. Which it probably was. The appearance of Kiritsugu seems to be faithfully preserved at least, and we can hope the various other people who appear again from F/Z will also look decent. It's too bad Shirou is so ugly.
I would kill for them to remake F/SN with ufotable as the animating studio. They would sell at least 42k units of the box of such a remake, I can almost certainly guarantee that. Visually, this show is a disaster compared to it's subsequent prequel.
As for the content, well I guess we'll see. People blasted this show for the way it covered the content of the original VN as well.
Friends don't let friends put unnecessary CGI in anime.
Not all CG is bad
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Well, something like UtaPri doesn't have the "magical" part I suppose. They're just bishounen who happen to be able to save the girl.
No one said all of it is. However, it's a problem when you have a fight scene and one of the characters doesn't look like he's in the same reality.
maybe's thats the point
Femmeworth
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Does Howl's Moving Castle count as magical boyfriend?
If that is the future, I want out.B-but, CG is the future of anime, see?
And maybe the point of the Angel Beats scene is that it's a surreal afterlife where nothing is as it seems, but I'm not going to justify poor composition with convenient theories.
it's beautiful. easily up there with mirai nikki.
KO Traveling Hobo
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Berserker's otherworldly appearance reflects his unique and unknown nature, as well as his master's isolation from the rest of the challengers and progressing dehumanization.
They could totally make perfect, seamless CG that would make Cameron weep, but they chose not to. You just don't get it, man.
Me neither I'm just saying your post is flawed
Yeah i have to admit what Ufotable has done with Fate Zero is nothing short of astounding.
Shit is hitting the fan now and it is absolutely incredible.
Also Caster is a dispicable piece of shit.
Well, you would know.
Their idea is perfectly clear. It's just poor execution because when a character looks like he belongs to another show, because it breaks immersion rather than causing you to ponder his character's meaning. Plus it looks bad.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I was actually kidding. It looked dumb as hell.
CG Berserker is awesome, and he looks awesome. Nothing any of you attempt to say will persuade me otherwise, because I love the way he looks and animates. The amazing sales of Fate/Zero will continue to justify that my opinion has the advantage here, because the studio will remain confident of their artistic integrity being supported by commercial success. It means I will continue to get what I find appealing from them, and I win.
Part of the problem.
CG Beserker is a pretty good looking fellow.
A Black Falcon
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... Well you can't argue with that last one, but apart from that, not so much (it does have a good ED, though.). The show's tolerably okay but certainly not the best.
Horror plots are often extremely flimsy on matters like that, really. I don't think it's so much a fault of Another so much as it is a fault of the genre -- that kind of thing is generally just ignored, and yes, it's really frustrating stuff; I haven't watched Another, but that kind of inexplicably stupid plot point would DEFINITELY get to me.
Indeed.
The censorship is so minimal that I don't think there'd be much of a point. It is kind of amazing to see a series like this not do Buy-The-DVD/BD censorship, but it seems to be selling okay anyway, so I guess it worked out?
That's what you think until you actually try watching it.
Take a good look, you guys. This is textbook Stockholm Syndrome.
Unknown Soldier
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Fate/Stay Night 2:
I hate it when characters' faces and bodies change shape as they animate. It's a classic sign of low budget but you would think characters are the most important thing to get right when in motion. Well, the backgrounds in this show aren't anything to speak of either, so it's not as if they sacrificed one thing for another here or anything like that.
I just realized that the narrating voice for the PV who says "Fate...Stay Night." in that dramatic way has to be the guy who voices Kirei. I'm okay with this.
I love how Saber's character design always features a moe antenna. The origin of Saber's gender is pretty interesting too. Like many things in the Nasuverse which seem deep and philosophical but really aren't, Saber's gender was the result of a rather trivial decision on Nasu's part when he was first conceptualizing F/SN.
I hate it when characters' faces and bodies change shape as they animate. It's a classic sign of low budget but you would think characters are the most important thing to get right when in motion. Well, the backgrounds in this show aren't anything to speak of either, so it's not as if they sacrificed one thing for another here or anything like that.
I just realized that the narrating voice for the PV who says "Fate...Stay Night." in that dramatic way has to be the guy who voices Kirei. I'm okay with this.
I love how Saber's character design always features a moe antenna. The origin of Saber's gender is pretty interesting too. Like many things in the Nasuverse which seem deep and philosophical but really aren't, Saber's gender was the result of a rather trivial decision on Nasu's part when he was first conceptualizing F/SN.
If that were the case, I would be talking about how Mari Okada is in fact a great writer instead, and people simply don't understand her art.
Shit, maybe that's next... 
Ahoge makes the world go 'round.
Fate/Stay Night as an anime was ok but when compared to the VN, it doesn't come close. Obviously they couldn't pack as much small details and plot into the anime but the
just felt tacked on.
The UBW movie was better but not by much.
tldr; UFOtable's CG and animation are amazing, they should remake F/SN to eradicate Deen's abomination from the face of earth.
the plot points from the HF and UBW routes
The UBW movie was better but not by much.
tldr; UFOtable's CG and animation are amazing, they should remake F/SN to eradicate Deen's abomination from the face of earth.
I hate you and this post
Not that I'm interested in defending a DEEN animu and it probably looks like shit -- but my issue is with what you're saying in general. What you're [possibly incorrectly] describing is not a sign of low budget.
If that were the case, I would be talking about how Mari Okada is in fact a great writer instead, and people simply don't understand her art.
Shit, maybe that's next...
KoikeLupin, we hardly knew ye...
I'm going to defend him here, and say that what he is describing is not what you are thinking. Studio DEEN in particular is known for poor art consistently between scenes, such that even in a single episode, the way a character looks, and the proportions of a character's full body design can change from scene to scene, or even between cuts in the same scene, because of a crappy job on the part of the animation director.
That is different from creative morphing of a character's form in fast moving action sequences to create a dynamic flow which does not look realistic. Such a debate would never come up in a Studio DEEN discussion, because to begin with the studio would be incapable of animating (or even storyboarding) a creative fast moving action sequence.
To elaborate, stretching and deformation in motion are basically the starting point for all animation. They exaggerate the animated motion, making it obvious to the viewer what is going on. When used intentionally and intelligently, it's great.
That's not the same as DEEN being awful at art and being unable to maintain consistency in a static scene.
I know, I'm not defending Studio DEEN, but he specifically said:I'm going to defend him here, and say that what he is describing is not what you are thinking. Studio DEEN in particular is known for poor art consistently between scenes, such that even in a single episode, the way a character looks, and the proportions of a character's full body design can change from scene to scene, or even between cuts in the same scene, because of a crappy job on the part of the animation director.
That is different from creative morphing of a character's form in fast moving action sequences to create a dynamic flow which does not look realistic. Such a debate would never come up in a Studio DEEN discussion, because to begin with the studio would be incapable of animating (or even storyboarding) a creative fast moving action sequence.
This is a Wrong.
See above!!!!!
I'm going to defend him here, and say that what he is describing is not what you are thinking. Studio DEEN in particular is known for poor art consistently between scenes, such that even in a single episode, the way a character looks, and the proportions of a character's full body design can change from scene to scene, or even between cuts in the same scene, because of a crappy job on the part of the animation director.
That is different from creative morphing of a character's form in fast moving action sequences to create a dynamic flow which does not look realistic. Such a debate would never come up in a Studio DEEN discussion, because to begin with the studio would be incapable of animating (or even storyboarding) a creative fast moving action sequence.
Actually, there is one scene in Higurashi that qualifies, though it's the only time I've seen them accomplish it.
Well i do feel satisfied contributing to the success of Fate Zero because i definitely think its worth it, but honestly, the berserker in FZ is a pretty weak design.
Thats not to say its terrible, just that the one in FSN looks more like I would envision a berserker to look like.
Thats totally one of Sabers best features!!
Ahoge is a powerful thing!
Fucking right it does!
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