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[Devolution]

Because...?

What's wrong with taking care of business before going to bed, for example? Fapping to porn isn't inherently wrong. It's only a problem when you don't know when to stop.

Men can actually benefit greatly from not masturbating/having sex for a while. The increase of testosterone is great for athletics, martial arts, weight lifting, etc. My ex, for instance, didn't want to engage in sexual activities the night before he had a Wushu class because he wanted the testosterone boost.

 

[ConradCervantes]

you're gonna regret deleting your collection in a couple weeks.

Perhaps, but as I said, it's been a thorn in my side for a while. Intimacy with my girlfriend isn't as fulfilling as it could be. There was a point in my life where I devoured porn and sex at well, doing so quite well. But that was when I was younger. I'm exhausted after sex/masturbation now, plus I'm not as at attention as I could be. Lastly, I want some piece of mind. I don't want to be some deviant who only gets hard while thinking of extreme sex scenarios.

 

[hateradio]

I don't like that they tied it to biological imperatives such as reproducing, but it was an interesting video.

I doubt I would ever quit. I don't think I've had any issues with ED . . . not that I have really done much in any case. :|

 

[Buckethead]

 

[HarryHengst]

I openend that your brain on porn site and the first thing i see is 'I'm from Germany. I am 32 and what you would probably call a very good looking guy. I'm married to a beautiful woman and I work in the central department of a world famous company. Before that I had finished high school with a A+ degree (called 1,0 Abitur in Germany) and then I graduated with excellent grades (Master of Business Administration). '

:lol

 

[Man]

GAF, I just deleted 500GB of amazing porn.

I'm quitting porn for the rest of my life.

Just last week I microwaved a banana peel and fucked it while watching Asa Akira get DP'd for the first time.

No more.

Amazing.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Men can actually benefit greatly from not masturbating/having sex for a while. The increase of testosterone is great for athletics, martial arts, weight lifting, etc. My ex, for instance, didn't want to engage in sexual activities the night before he had a Wushu class because he wanted the testosterone boost.

Well but that doesnt affect me.

Also, not fapping before some tough physical activity makes sense, but dropping everything for 90 days seems unhealthy.

 

[rdrr gnr]

Men can actually benefit greatly from not masturbating/having sex for a while. The increase of testosterone is great for athletics, martial arts, weight lifting, etc. My ex, for instance, didn't want to engage in sexual activities the night before he had a Wushu class because he wanted the testosterone boost.

My first instinct is to call bullshit, but I'm not aware of what the science says. I know boxers are known for not having sex before a fight. Do you have a source outside of anecdotal evidence?

 

[Buckethead]

I am a pretty avid runner and I would agree with Devo's post.

I purposely try to avoid release M-F.

 

[rdrr gnr]

I am a pretty avid runner and I would agree with Devo's post.

I purposely try to avoid release M-F.

I don't disagree that it is bound to have some effect; I just want to know the math. It is universal for males? Time limits? How measurable is the effect? And so forth.

 

[Bruiserk]

These things always make you curious and think "What would happen if I applied this to my life? How different would I feel?".

I never hoarded any porn on my personal computer. I can't believe how some people get up to 500 GB of it..

also:

Its been a day since my last jerk, just reading through this thread is giving me a chub. Lawd Jesus give me strength.

GAF, I just deleted 500GB of amazing porn.

I'm quitting porn for the rest of my life.

Just last week I microwaved a banana peel and fucked it while watching Asa Akira get DP'd for the first time.

No more.

Excellent.

 

[Kentpaul]

It's a real problem though. Last year when I got my first bj ever (from gf) I couldn't even cum. I've toned my viewing down drastically since then and things are better.

what ?

I fap twice a day and have no problem cumming in my girlfriends mouth.

also real sex feels a shitload better than watching sex on the internet.

 

[TheYanger]

what ?

I fap twice a day and have no problem cumming in my girlfriends mouth.

also real sex feels a shitload better than watching sex on the internet.

It does, but 2 times a day is normal and nothing. I know I've gone up to 10 times in one day before and I'm guessing others may be in this same boat (thank god for the anonymity of the internet!)
It's not that real sex no longer feels good, but it's gone from 'oh shit a girl /cum' to 'I really like this girl and she's incredibly tight but it's STILL not easy to finish' over the course of a decade /shrug.

 

[cdyhybrid]

I don't disagree that it is bound to have some effect; I just want to know the math. It is universal for males? Time limits? How measurable is the effect? And so forth.

I don't have the link handy, but I believe I've read that testosterone builds for 7 days without orgasm and then slowly starts to decrease. So once a week would be fine, I suppose.

 

[Joe]

what ?

I fap twice a day and have no problem cumming in my girlfriends mouth.

also real sex feels a shitload better than watching sex on the internet.

Shades of gray brother shades of gray. It is not black and white.

I've had high speed broadband access (read: non stop stream of porn) for almost 15 years and even grew up as a young teenager with the playboy channel in my room (brother worked for the cable company, we had everything).

1x fap per day X 15 years and we're over 5,000 porno fap sessions. Who knows how many girls (whom your brain thinks are semi real) and literally countless hardcore and extreme scenarios and positions.

I grew dependent and desensitized. I literally grew up with beautiful women performing hardcore sexual acts in front of my eyes daily for 15 years.

My empornium account had 1TB downloaded, and that was just emprnium! Lol.

So yeah, shades of gray.

 

[HarryHengst]

what ?

I fap twice a day and have no problem cumming in my girlfriends mouth.

also real sex feels a shitload better than watching sex on the internet.

You are the dude who drinks 10 beers a day and claims not to have an alcohol problem.

 

[Darklord]

Rather than just end it, why not limit it? Everyone watches porn and masturbates but this problem only is for very heavy users who can't get hard from regular porn anymore. If you cut it back to the more normal porn I bet you'd be fine. Moderation, people.

 

[Joe]

Rather than just end it, why not limit it? Everyone watches porn and masturbates but this problem only is for very heavy users who can't get hard from regular porn anymore. If you cut it back to the more normal porn I bet you'd be fine. Moderation, people.

Some people are thinking that this is porn=problem.

If you have a problem then there is a HIGHLY suggested self treatment plan. If you think you might have a little problem then its time to reign it in and take some control, if you don't have a problem then there's no problem.

 

[Des0lar]

Be sure to keep us on check. On the other hand, I'll just go to a streaming site...


You said you had done better ever since you started to use pics rather than videos, and I'm just asking how you know that's a general thing.

Well it was one point during the conference. Previous generations never had ED and other problems as much as we do now. Refraining from hard-core porn has made me appreciate the female body more. Also it has made me use my mind more and made me focus on myseld more. I have the feeling that the sensation is greater and I can last longer in bed.
I hope this answers your question, if not feel free to ask again.

 

[Banglish]

It's a small problem for me, as a person with their v-card.
Not that I haven't had the chance to have sex yet, I just have very low self-esteem, porn doesn't help. :/
I'll attempt to limit myself as I'm pretty sure it will affect me negatively for the rest of my life, if I don't. =_=

 

[Joe]

It's a small problem for me, as a person with their v-card.
Not that I haven't had the chance to have sex yet, I just have very low self-esteem, porn doesn't help. :/
I'll attempt to limit myself as I'm pretty sure it will affect me negatively for the rest of my life, if I don't. =_=

Porno addiction + performance anxiety is an absolute nightmare just waiting to happen. Reign it in, bro.

 

[mcrae]

I never understood this.

I'm not going to get into details but I watch porn relatively regularly (compared to how often I'm having sex these days) and even the gentlest, most "softcore", sexual contact with a real woman is more stimulating to me than the best porn I've ever seen.

ive been semi-seeing this one girl for like 6 dates now where all we do is makeout, usually on one of our beds she let me put my hand down her pants on the 6th date but thats it. i have raging hard ons for like, 1-1.5hours of these hangouts.

this past weekend i hooked up with a girl who i later found out is a professional escort. at one point we were laying in her bed with her hand on my crotch (over jeans, but still) and.. nothing. keeping it up long enough to actually finish was a bit of an issue as well.

i think its comparable to viewing porn you like vs porn you dont. the girl i was seeing is like that porn you're really into and gets you excited quickly allure of the unknown and such. the escort was like the boring professional fake stuff where you're just like 'ok.. theres some boobs and vag.. but.. meh, lets go back to the categories tab.'

shes a good looker, and technically very proficient, but mentally it just isn't there ya know.. and i think i could attribute that to too much porn.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

ive been semi-seeing this one girl for like 6 dates now where all we do is makeout, usually on one of our beds she let me put my hand down her pants on the 6th date but thats it. i have raging hard ons for like, 1-1.5hours of these hangouts.

this past weekend i hooked up with a girl who i later found out is a professional escort. at one point we were laying in her bed with her hand on my crotch (over jeans, but still) and.. nothing. keeping it up long enough to actually finish was a bit of an issue as well.

i think its comparable to viewing porn you like vs porn you dont. the girl i was seeing is like that porn you're really into and gets you excited quickly allure of the unknown and such. the escort was like the boring professional fake stuff where you're just like 'ok.. theres some boobs and vag.. but.. meh, lets go back to the categories tab.'

shes a good looker, and technically very proficient, but mentally it just isn't there ya know.. and i think i could attribute that to too much porn.

Or you're just not attracted to the second girl. What does porn have to do with it?

If anything, you'd be more likely to get a hard on from the professional.

 

[mrklaw]

I am a pretty avid runner and I would agree with Devo's post.

I purposely try to avoid release M-F.

surely if you wait too long you trip over your balls?


I've been through periods where I try and delete stashes. Trouble is, I think 'I'll just keep my favourites'. Then I start going through them to choose which to keep, and I don't get very far...

 

[Good Job Bob]

you're gonna regret deleting your collection in a couple weeks.

I deleted 500+ GB of some of the greatest porn I've ever stumbled upon, porn that I will likely never be able to download again.

What the fuck I have I done?

Amazing.

It certainly felt pretty amazing.

I made that banana peel my dirty little whore and felt no shame about it.

 

[TheYanger]

Or you're just not attracted to the second girl. What does porn have to do with it?

If anything, you'd be more likely to get a hard on from the professional.

It seems pretty obvious that you think this is all garbage, nobody is here to convince you you should do it.

 

[mrklaw]

I made that banana peel my dirty little whore and felt no shame about it.

did you check for banana worms? They look kind of like the stringy bits of banana but they've been known to burrow up your urethra.

 

[mcrae]

Or you're just not attracted to the second girl. What does porn have to do with it?

If anything, you'd be more likely to get a hard on from the professional.

well, what im saying is that the sex with the escort is pretty good, and she is definitely more attractive than the other girl, but johnny was standing at attention longer/harder/quicker/etc with the other girl. which could mean that my physical response to the visual of naked women has taken a hit due to porn.

the other option is that the fact that she also does this for money, and the nagging worry that half of the moans are just there from her being used to the routine, is the other option, and the one i was going with initially. i think it is a combination of that, and desensitization to a hot naked female.

 

[mrklaw]

well, what im saying is that the sex with the escort is pretty good, and she is definitely more attractive than the other girl, but johnny was standing at attention longer/harder/quicker/etc with the other girl. which could mean that my physical response to the visual of naked women has taken a hit due to porn.

the other option is that the fact that she also does this for money, and the nagging worry that half of the moans are just there from her being used to the routine, is the other option, and the one i was going with initially. i think it is a combination of that, and desensitization to a hot naked female.

more likely you have a stronger emotional connection to the other girl - perhaps you have feelings for her beyond just physical, perhaps like you say you had a nagging doubt the moans from the escort weren't entirely due to your peformance.

That seems a more straightforward explanation than 'porn made me not like hot women'

 

[Man]

did you check for banana worms? They look kind of like the stringy bits of banana but they've been known to burrow up your urethra.

He practices safe sex.

Spoiler

microwaved

 

[Darklord]

did you check for banana worms? They look kind of like the stringy bits of banana but they've been known to burrow up your urethra.

Wait...is that a real thing? Banana worms? If it is I'm never eating a god damn banana again!

 

[CornBurrito]

Shades of gray brother shades of gray. It is not black and white.

Though didn't you pretty much recommend a 90 day celibacy period for every person with even a hint of a problem? If there are shades of grey you could have added caveats. Like according to the YBOP website you are actually allowed to masturbate, as long as you dont fantasize about porn (or watch porn) and simply focus on the sensations.

 

[Trojita]

Men can actually benefit greatly from not masturbating/having sex for a while. The increase of testosterone is great for athletics, martial arts, weight lifting, etc. My ex, for instance, didn't want to engage in sexual activities the night before he had a Wushu class because he wanted the testosterone boost.

I thought the testosterone boost only lasted 7 days? Or was it that by 7 days the maximum amount happens daily? I remember reading that you get a boost for like 1-3 days of not doing it, 4-5 days in there is a lull where not much testosterone does get boosted, and then days 6 and 7 there is a major increase.

 

[mclaren777]

Do not take any advice related to sexuality from this poster, you have been warned!

Are you an alt account for Foliorum Viridum? How is my advice less valid than anyone else's?

I know I've gone up to 10 times in one day before...

You, sir, might have a problem.

 

[Good Job Bob]

He practices safe sex.

Spoiler

microwaved

Yup, surely the radiation would have killed any pesky urethra-loving banana worms!

I didn't know this -- of course; I simply microwaved the banana peel so it'd be warm (like an actual vagina).

 

[Earthstrike]

Yes there are benefits. No porn & no masturbation makes me want to have sex women more. I'm more charismatic. No doubt.

But comparing porn addiction to cigarettes is pretty offensive.

The most I've gone without sexual release was roughly two months. When I kissed my girlfriend I was up in a second and done in another second. It's not practical.

If you want to disappoint your woman sexually: don't masturbate for 90 days!

I wasn't comparing porn to cigarettes. I was explaining why, when we think of things are harmful, we have an inclination to view abstinence as being the correct way of dealing it.

 

[J.W.Crazy]

I watched the video a few days ago so maybe I'm not remembering it correctly, but I don't think at anytime it says no porn ever for the rest of your life.

The 30-90 days thing is specifically about allowing your brain to remove excess Delta FosB which is preventing dopamine receptors from functioning properly. It's a natural part of the system but stimulus overload allows it to build up to unmanageable amounts that not only potentially affect your sexual functions but your overall state of mind. It's also not specific to porn addiction. Any addiction or stimulus overload causes the same thing, it's just less of an issue when the goal is to quit using a substance permanently. Because you're essentially hijacking a normal system that will continue to be used the "reset" becomes separated from the overall goal which is moderation as opposed to abstinence.

You could cut back slowly and eventually things would even out but that can just as easily lead to building back up slowly without noticing. Quickly and efficiently removing the Delta FosB is more likely to result in sustained changes in your behavior once you determine those changes need to be made. Experiencing all the positive benefits at once allows you to truly understand how different things are as opposed to gradually returning to normalcy.

 

[Barbacoatl]

^^^ Interesting stuff. I got my batch today. 147% testosterone levels here I come! wait no I don't come come but you get the drill. Ugh.

 

[Sanjay]

Men can actually benefit greatly from not masturbating/having sex for a while. The increase of testosterone is great for athletics, martial arts, weight lifting, etc. My ex, for instance, didn't want to engage in sexual activities the night before he had a Wushu class because he wanted the testosterone boost.

Yeah why Footballers can't bring there wives to World Cups/Euros, gotta get erm pumped up.

 

[v1oz]

What of those without girlfriends, how do they cut back on porn?

...

 

[Plywood]

What of those without girlfriends, how do they cut back on porn?

...

Spoiler

But hey, I'm right there with you.

 

[Orayn]

What of those without girlfriends, how do they cut back on porn?

...

By havin' losta sex and fucking a lot!

 

[FoxSpirit]

Yeah why Footballers can't bring there wives to World Cups/Euros, gotta get erm pumped up.

Yeah, though proven time and time again this amounts to next to nothing. Guys already have good hormonal balance or they wouldn't be on top.

Best laugh was an Euro football championship in Sweden many years ago: Germany, highly ranked, forbid any contacts and basically locked their players in their citadel to ensure focus during the competition. Denmark only got in because some countries were banned because sadly, there was the Yugoslav Wars going on.
Denmark took the ticket and went but decided to simply take it easy. After all, they had to call back players from holidays just to fill the roster, no prior training and all. You had videos of the players on the beach, chewing on some recreational fastfood and slurpin some non-diet coke with their girlfriends in arm. Got them the nickname "The BicMac troupe".
Miraculously, Denmark made it into the finals where they beat Germany 2:0
True story.

What of those without girlfriends, how do they cut back on porn?

...

Spoiler

But hey, I'm right there with you.

The Des0lar way:

I have completely given up hard-core. I'm only watching still pictures now, stuff that would be in Playboy. It's taking me longer than ever to fap, but it's worth it.

My orgasms feel better than ever. Totally worth it.

I urge everyone to do it as well.

 

[FoxSpirit]

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[The Anti-Monitor]

It seems pretty obvious that you think this is all garbage, nobody is here to convince you you should do it.

And nobody will. However, I am genuinely curious about this, which is why I want to know more about those who do want to do it.

 

[Barbacoatl]

And nobody will. However, I am genuinely curious about this, which is why I want to know more about those who do want to do it.

r/nofap or the yourbrainonporn forums are the best places for that.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

r/nofap or the yourbrainonporn forums are the best places for that.

I prefer to do it here, since there were other users who doubted the efficiency of this.

The result seems to be "porn isn't bad unless you're addicted" which is like duh.

 

[Dever]

I might try this out. I don't have problems getting an erection and I don't masturbate that much(1-2 times a day) and I haven't noticed developing a preference for more and more extreme stuff, but I am quite awkward socially. I've never had a girlfriend, for instance. I'm reading reports by men who've had an increase in confidence and interest in other people as a result and I'm really interested in that. But I don't know yet whether I should simply abstain from masturbating as long as I possibly can, or just start doing it only once a week or something.

 

[MNC]

How the fuck is fapping 1-2 times a day not that much?

 

[Dever]

How the fuck is fapping 1-2 times a day not that much?

Jeez, what's with the bolding? I've read about people fapping like 6 times a day, so uh, I don't really know what's considered excessive. Thought once a day was pretty normal. More evidence I should take a break?