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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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True. And this is why it's important that Wii U have DX11-equivalent hardware and APIs. UE4 will probably completely jettison DX9 and 10 support.
bgassassin
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Battery and/or outlet? Yes.
Yes, but I don't think Epic would support it officially if Wii U is too weak.
TheCongressman1
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Yeah, I don't use the music playback very much, but I know people that do. So it's nice to have the option.
AceBandage
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Nintendo will use Tesla Coils.
They'll support it if they can make money off it.
Ace, not knowing how a piece of software works should be a pretty clear flag that you should educate yourself a bit better before commenting on it. iTunes works via a cloud and is all about integrating your movies/music/shows/apps/ebooks across a variety of products. You wouldn't "just" be able to use it on your Wii U, you'd be able to seamlessly access that content between your ipad, iphone, Wii U, computer, etc.
As much as I hate how bloated and shitty itunes runs on a pc, it tends to run pretty well on apple products in my experience. Does Wii U need itunes? No, not really. But if it did get itunes, it'd gain an enormous catalog of content that millions of people would routinely access anyway. It would open up a dedicated channel for purchasing and renting vast amounts of content with a reliable and trusted infrastructure already in place. It'd be pretty big.
And now.. imagine that picture splashed all over the gaming media's front pages.
Would this damage Rein's cred with hardcorier-than-thou gamers?
Would it give Nintendo some cool cred with that crowd?
How much would the Nintendo crowd taunt and crow over such a thing?
That image of Rein smiling next to Miyamoto - two of gaming's giants - would be THE image of this year' E3. I'm thinking that it's gotta be pretty high up on Nintendo's priority list.. assuming that they are as serious about pursuing the core as they say they are.
I just knew you weren't going away. And I'm happy about that.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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No one said they need iTunes, just that it would be a pretty cool feature.
I'd never use it, but it would be nice to have the option. Of course, I wouldn't be disappointed in any way if it wasn't there.
Nonsense. Epic has been all over every Nintendo console that could run UE2.5, and will run UE4 on mobile devices far weaker than the Wii U.
Epic isn't going to miss this revenue stream because of "lol nintendo". Come on.
I won't go into my thoughts because Terrell pretty much expressed them while I was at dinner.
Sorry Ace, but this in particular is one of your "preserving the sanctity of Nintendo" type rationalizations. The chance of an Apple/Nintendo collab is slim, but it wouldn't be detrimental to either one.
Don't mean to drive-by argue, but I have to go again. Not trying to insult you, just saying that there's no real reason not to have something like that.
Sorry Ace, but this in particular is one of your "preserving the sanctity of Nintendo" type rationalizations. The chance of an Apple/Nintendo collab is slim, but it wouldn't be detrimental to either one.
Don't mean to drive-by argue, but I have to go again. Not trying to insult you, just saying that there's no real reason not to have something like that.
AceBandage
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Sorry, I get that people would be "excited" (if only because it would be a talking point) in iTunes being on the Wii U, but I see neither the actual reason for it to happen or any way in all the billions of hells that it would even be possible.
As I said, this is like not seeing a reason to have Netflix. Plain and simple. Unless you don't actually see the reason for that, either.
While I agree that modern hardware is very important for the portability of games (not engines), DX11 grade hardware really only has a single distinguishing feature from previous architectures. The vast majority of engine features would still work easily.
AceBandage
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Except that I can use Netflix on any device with a screen. I can only use iTunes on Apple devices.
And I simply don't see that changing, especially for Nintendo.
IceDoesntHelp
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I just knew you weren't going away. And I'm happy about that.
I'm just really bored tonight (;
I may come back more often that I initially stated though d:
Good to know people like me around here
AceBandage
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Yeah, no publisher would take the games, especially after they completely changed everything about The Grinder.
Not sure if serious...
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
I think Nintendo should announce a remote camera peripheral that turns the Wii U controller into a baby monitoring device. Parents of Nintendo fans would appeciate that feature.
AceBandage
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What about it isn't serious?
Can you use iTunes on your Droid?
The only thing that isn't Apple that can run it is the PC, and it's a horrible program.
And, once more, I don't, for any reason, see Apple or Nintendo saying they want iTunes on the Wii U.
butter_stick
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Have you ever heard of a PC?
And that depends on whether or not they think they'll make much money on it. PS4 and XB3 will be the main platforms for the engine, and if Wii U is too weak to get good ports from them, most devs might just stick to UE3 on Wii U. Of course, this is all just my cynical opinion.
At the very least, even if Wii U meets DX11 specs, it might not be powerful enough that Epic would want to, say, show a demo of it running on Wii U at Nintendo's conference.
Ahh.. a game I was kinda interested in. I remember a certain Nintendo podcast talking about it a fair amount during the early part of the development process. Here's the wikipedia page.. looks like it's been moved to.. other platforms. A damn shame.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animales_de_la_Muerte
Uhhh... PC?
Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but the integration would be as simple as an app for Wii U. It's there if you want it.
I'm just really bored tonight (;
I may come back more often that I initially stated though d:
Good to know people like me around here
You make this place a hell
ishly good time
AceBandage
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I get that it would be "simple" in theory.
I don't see how it would benefit Apple (who would have to approve and make the program) or even Nintendo (other than it being a "checked box" I suppose).
And I just do not see Apple ever in a billion years, wanting it to happen.
I don't see how it would benefit Apple (who would have to approve and make the program) or even Nintendo (other than it being a "checked box" I suppose).
And I just do not see Apple ever in a billion years, wanting it to happen.
Yeah, this doesn't explain at all why netflix is desirable but itunes is not.
I'm guessing that Epic is wondering if they can gamble against Nintendo this time around. The Wii was a great reminder that you never quite know how the sales & marketshare picture will turn-out. Making it work might well be worthwhile.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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I don't think anyone's saying it's likely, or even possible. It would just be cool is all.
AceBandage
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Because, if I own a non Apple portable device, I can still use Netflix on it. I can not use iTunes on it.
IceDoesntHelp
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AceBandage
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It'd be a nicety but I have my Apple TV for that and it does a better job than Nintendo would I'm sure. (I can use an App to control my Apple TV)
All I need from Nintendo is the Wii U to be DLNA compliant. Then I should be able to use my Plex Media Server.
Hmm. Have there been other console reveals at E3's where people have come on but not shown anything? I'm not counting last year which was really just an announcement more than anything. If so then yes I can imagine Rein coming on but I'd think Nintendo would want to show off anything they're talking about. Especially UE4 and we all know that's not gonna happen unlesss it's already been shown on the PC beforehand.
IceDoesntHelp
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Bad to worse.
Give me VLC.
I'd...be okay with this, that or XBMC
Not all business decisions have to be based around the history between corporations. It's not always a matter of fraternizing with the enemy; the consumer will benefit from the feature.
You're making this argument on the basis that Wii U will be a gateway product to iTunes to everyone that would use it - and I'm assuming from experience.
Sure, it would be yet another way to get more people on board, but most people already have extensive iTunes music libraries. This would simply allow people to access them from their living room.
IceDoesntHelp
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a box of steam? how silly.
Hero of Legend
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The Grinder would be epic for Wii U, considering that it actually looked ambitious and had a nice style unlike the generic Conduit series. Animales would also be great, eShop or retail, hell a retail 3DS game would work as well.
But this is demonstrably false with the sole exception being android products.
You think hundreds of millions of people wont see the value of the obscenely popular itunes software on a console because you don't have an ios device or because you don't use itunes on your PC? That's just silly, man.
No, but I can on my iPhone. And my Mac. And iPods and iPads. Which SEVERAL MILLION PEOPLE OWN, moreso than any Android device you can throw out there.
And the reason for either company wanting it to happen is simple: so people don't see one less feature on WiiU that they can get on a MS or Sony box, and for Apple to stick it to Microsoft in ownership of the living room. This is a pretty simple reason and goes beyond just a talking point.
But never mind, more options are bad unless they can be used on EVERYTHING, so decrees AceBandage.... never mind that he's suggesting something needs to be usable on every device for it to be useful at all on a CLOSED PLATFORM DEVICE.
Nintendo gets a huge library of music/movie rentals and apple gets a bigger audience to sell music/movie rentals to
It's not complicated
I would love to see an iSteamBox. Not because I'd buy it, but because of what it would do to the market. It'd be fascinating, and the other consoles would be spurred to respond to its strengths.
Nintendo would be fine with this development, still occupying its corner of the gaming market at the very least. Four consoles would be a very, very tight market though. Heck, sometimes it looks like three is too tight. :/
AceBandage
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The reason why Netflix was big on consoles was because it's a visual medium primarily and consoles are usually hooked up to the biggest screen in the house.
With iTunes on the Wii U, there's just no point in it. If you are using iTunes, you already have a device that is more than capable of playing, and likely one of the portable devices that you can use while you play a console.
I wonder if any of these phones even work after all these years.
Again, I see absolutely no point in it on a console. No need to be so condescending if you disagree with me.
IceDoesntHelp
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I don't know about you, but I'm excited for the eventual Wii U port of Country Dance 2 and Country Dance All-Stars.
I really hope that the makers of Animales would see the strength of the U and reconsider their decision to skip Nintendo. It seems like a very interesting game, and I rather like the premise.
Except itunes is much more than just music. Hey, you can rent movies and shows directly from itunes! Can you do that with netflix on the biggest screen in the house? Nope. And look, there's an ebook store with thousands of books already available for download. Didn't nintendo hint at having some interest in using their new console in such a capacity? Hmm.
It really isn't as ridiculous as you're trying to make it sound. The fact that you're so obstinate when you knew so little about the software in question is baffling.
This, always.
IceDoesntHelp
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Since I got the last post two pages in a row, I thought I'd point out my super awesome, relevant and interesting post.
Anyone else super excite?
AceBandage
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Whatever, I'm dropping the subject.
I've stated my piece about it.
I just don't see any reason for it.
You guys disagree, that's fine. It's over, and it's never happening, so there's no need to get in a tiff about it.
I've stated my piece about it.
I just don't see any reason for it.
You guys disagree, that's fine. It's over, and it's never happening, so there's no need to get in a tiff about it.
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