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Mass Effect 3 |OT| Space Jesus Returns (tag all spoilers)

Skilotonn

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You know, seeing Shepard turn into a space god and fighting each Reaper hand-to-hand would've been incredible.

You liked the ending. That's cool. I'll be interested to see if you still feel that way after you've let it soak (and have read the spoiler thread) in.

Well I didn't hate it enough to flip out about it like so many others did, it is definitely
disappointing to see the other two options are pretty much the same now that I've watched the rest - THAT I agree on without at doubt. And finally after watching those other options on YouTube, I finally get what the hell people were going on about with colors.

Disappointing enough that there was no epic battle at the end, like ME1, or to a lesser extent, ME2, but that there were few differences and direct visual consequential differences to the endings of a trilogy.

So after a while of looking around, I'd say the word to best describe the very end would be disappointing, and definitely not hate, like so many others. Expansion is desperately needed, at least they acknowledge that.

Oh and I forgot to add that before I beat the game, all of the negativity surrounding the ending brought my expectations real low, so that had a little effect to my impressions immediately after beating the game.

Actually, that's pretty funny.
You do know that in the Control ending, Shepard becomes a reaper himself, right?
So you were kinda close in a way.

Saw that a while ago, yeah
- but still, that was still a reasonable option given the ME universe, while my example was ridiculous on purpose and was still way off from that.

One good redeeming factor through it all was that I achieved my goal, which was to get the best possible ending, and I got that
by destroying the Reapers, because after all they did, I had to whoop that ass - and that option was also seemingly the only way Shepard survives + Earth isn't destroyed too since I had over 7700 War Assets with all missions complete. Hell yeah.
 
Well I didn't hate it enough to flip out about it like so many others did...

I suspect that the silent majority of Mass Effect 3 fans are people who thought the ending(s) sucked and then moved on.

I guess it depends on how emotionally invested you were in the ME universe. You know how Star Wars fans go overboard with their hatred of the prequel trilogy and always scream about how Lucas raped their childhood or whatever? I never understood that until I played Mass Effect because Mass Effect was the first thing I ever experienced where I got as invested in a piece of fiction - even with all it's glaring flaws, that I felt such nerdrage after it ended like that. I know it's just a video game and I'm not going to go so far as to suggest that Casey Hudson fucked me until I loved him (Mike Tyson reference) but I kinda do understand what it's like to follow a fictional series for years only to be horribly let down like that. Mass Effect 3 was supposed to be the game that capped off my Star Wars trilogy. Instead it shat all over it and I've taken to the NeoGaf spoiler thread for solace.
 

Bazza

Member
I can't believe I just did that :( Tuchanka spoilers

I just killed Mordin
WHY DID I HAVE TO BE A RENEGADE


Also, does anybody know how far I am into the game? I'm like 13 hours playtime now/

Im doing my renegade run at the moment as well felt like such a cunt after that part, in a few missions time you will be feeling like an even bigger bastard as well.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
The more I think about this game the more sad I become. It's not about the ending but about the overall package - very formulaic game design with some cool combat moments, the lack of exploration sidequests, very lazy writing in some parts (even by standards of the series), non-necessary weapon customization. I mean this game has a lot of turret sections. Fucking turret sections.

I'm sad about the ruined potential. And I still want to replay it one more time at least.

I hope this industry will fucking crash and devs will return to making games, not movies. And will learn to budget properly.
 
Slightly off-topic, but I was listening to some ME1 music recently when I was reminded of the film grain effect the first ME has on by default. I'm nowhere near my Xbox at the moment, so can't check, but does 2 or 3 give you the option of a grain filter?
 

Nori Chan

Member
wait...so I couldn't recruit
Ashely? I was playing renegade and I didn't want to choose the paragon option...Is there another chance to get her or am I SOL?
 
Slightly off-topic, but I was listening to some ME1 music recently when I was reminded of the film grain effect the first ME has on by default. I'm nowhere near my Xbox at the moment, so can't check, but does 2 or 3 give you the option of a grain filter?
I'm wanting to say it doesn't, because I always turned it off for playing ME1, and I don't remember messing with it on 2 or 3.
 

Replicant

Member
wait...so I couldn't recruit
Ashely? I was playing renegade and I didn't want to choose the paragon option...Is there another chance to get her or am I SOL?

Is this at the beginning of the game or did you
pull the Renegade trigger on her bitchy ass during the Citadel incident?
If the later then you're fucked. If not, that character
will come around later and beg to join you (providing that you didn't shoot her earlier
.
 

Nori Chan

Member
Is this at the beginning of the game or did you
pull the Renegade trigger on her bitchy ass during the Citadel incident?
If the later then you're fucked. If not, that character
will come around later and beg to join you (providing that you didn't shoot her earlier
.

No I talked her out of it and I shot udina. But I really wanted on my team so I went back to my older save and used the paragon option to tell her to come.
 
Being the last installment this late in the console generation I'm surprised at the lack of polish ME3 received.

I've had to restart 1 mission that failed to load the enemies about half way through and I've had several NPC's not render in cutscenes.

I've also played as a vanguard through the first 2 games with no issues. ME3 however is a turd when playing as a vanguard. Half the time my biotic charge doesn't work which in turn keeps nova from working at all.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
The more I think about this game the more sad I become. It's not about the ending but about the overall package - very formulaic game design with some cool combat moments, the lack of exploration sidequests, very lazy writing in some parts (even by standards of the series), non-necessary weapon customization. I mean this game has a lot of turret sections. Fucking turret sections.

I'm sad about the ruined potential. And I still want to replay it one more time at least.

I hope this industry will fucking crash and devs will return to making games, not movies. And will learn to budget properly.
I sadly agree.
 
I've also played as a vanguard through the first 2 games with no issues. ME3 however is a turd when playing as a vanguard. Half the time my biotic charge doesn't work which in turn keeps nova from working at all.
Huh. I'm playing insanity as Vanguard and biotic charge + nova is like god mode.
 
There really need to be more dialog options. The renegade options don't even seem that dickish, just kind of measured and sensible.

I just hit the citadel after the Mars detour. So far the only thing I can comment on is biotic cooldown being incredibly short and it feels amazing. I hardly even bother to use my guns. I played my main dude as a Vanguard from the start and switched over, this feels like madness. Liara doesn't have anything to make her standout other than stasis which I assume is going to become useless later on once dudes start getting armoured up. Might have to reconsider running my ME1 squad which included her and Garrus.
 

Dreweyes

Member
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Cheers guys! ♥
 

Lothars

Member
I'm sad about the ruined potential. And I still want to replay it one more time at least.

I hope this industry will fucking crash and devs will return to making games, not movies. And will learn to budget properly.
I still think the game was fanatastic even with some of the things it wasn't as good in, I don't hope the industry crashes because there is still tons of great games released, I also don't think a crash would do any good to anything and I am sorry but it's really just boggles my mind for someone to actually mean that it would.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
I still think the game was fanatastic even with some of the things it wasn't as good in, I don't hope the industry crashes because there is still tons of great games released, I also don't think a crash would do any good to anything and I am sorry but it's really just boggles my mind for someone to actually mean that it would.

industry crash = most big US publishers cease to exist. I'm ok with that because nothing they do bring any good to videogames.
 

spekkeh

Banned
And after seeing the ending, was that REALLY worth all of the nerd-raging, pitchforking cries for a new ending?
Nope, I agree with you. I guess it does depend on the ending you take (I took the same as you). I mean, the ending is definitely flawed, but I thought the buildup was interesting and in the end I was quite okay with it. It could've been a lot better of course, but it gave the closure I wanted in terms of the story (though not really the characters). Although my expectations were really low because of all the outcry as well.
 

spekkeh

Banned
There really need to be more dialog options. The renegade options don't even seem that dickish, just kind of measured and sensible.
Eh, I thought that was pretty good about it. Dickish options like they do in other games is always completely at odds with the story, breaking all immersion. Here they both make sense given how you roleplay.
very formulaic game design. I mean this game has a lot of turret sections. Fucking turret sections.
Yeah I agree, although I thought the turret sections were an okay change of pace, I was more annoyed with the 'survive the horde' sections where you had to wait x minutes for a pickup/backup. That's just lazy. Overall ME2 had more interesting gameplay imo.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
Yeah I agree, although I thought the turret sections were an okay change of pace, I was more annoyed with the 'survive the horde' sections where you had to wait x minutes for a pickup/backup. That's just lazy. Overall ME2 had more interesting gameplay imo.

I actually liked these missions because I play MP a lot.
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
There really need to be more dialog options. The renegade options don't even seem that dickish, just kind of measured and sensible.

I just hit the citadel after the Mars detour. So far the only thing I can comment on is biotic cooldown being incredibly short and it feels amazing. I hardly even bother to use my guns. I played my main dude as a Vanguard from the start and switched over, this feels like madness. Liara doesn't have anything to make her standout other than stasis which I assume is going to become useless later on once dudes start getting armoured up. Might have to reconsider running my ME1 squad which included her and Garrus.

lol renegade doesnt necessarily mean being a dick (though it has in ME). However, dont worry. Renegade in 3 is far more horrible than renegade in 1 or 2.
 

deim0s

Member
Time to subscribe to this thread.

So... finished my playthrough of ME2 on the PS3 (which is the 5th time I played the game, 4 on PC and recently ME2 on the PS3), basically replicating and continuing what did on the PC version.

Switched difficulty to hardcore mode, damn. They're really resilient. Enemies got so much health and the damage the guns do against them are pathetic.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
Time to subscribe to this thread.

So... finished my playthrough of ME2 on the PS3 (which is the 5th time I played the game, 4 on PC and recently ME2 on the PS3), basically replicating and continuing what did on the PC version.

Switched difficulty to hardcore mode, damn. They're really resilient. Enemies got so much health and the damage the guns do against them are pathetic.
Hardcore I think is the sweet spot between challenging but fun. Insanity is difficult, but a straight-up borefest IMO.
 
So I'm about to go to Tuchanka. How far am I in the game? I want to space it out as much as possible so that (hopefully) I get to the end when they release the DLC.
 
So I'm about to go to Tuchanka. How far am I in the game? I want to space it out as much as possible so that (hopefully) I get to the end when they release the DLC.

About 33 percent.

You're better off playing it once a month if you're going to go that slow.

Edit:I'm not saying the game is short, it's not, but people experienced with the series can navigate it pretty quickly. Listening to dialogue is a good deal of it.
 
lol renegade doesnt necessarily mean being a dick (though it has in ME). However, dont worry. Renegade in 3 is far more horrible than renegade in 1 or 2.

I like the responses; so far they seem fairly neutral and fitting of what a commanding officer might say. My issue with it is that I seem to be accumulating badass points for responses that don't seem at all out-of-line or harsh.

It's all rather arbitrary.
 

Sai

Member
Lol @ the new ANN Update:

“We are pleased to join the galaxy in the fight against the Reapers, as well as Cerberus and geth forces,” explained Squad Commander Shar’lak Gurek, spokesman for the insular, xenophobic race that had been preparing for war with the Alliance before falling to Reaper forces. “And to better serve in that fight, we wish to clarify that applying medigel will absolutely help us regain consciousness when we are lying bleeding on the ground.”
“Many of our new allies in this great struggle seem to think that batarians view warnings about incoming banshees as an insult — nothing could be further from the truth, and it would be great if people could let us know when one of those was standing right behind us. There’s also a rumor that our kinetic barriers are thermally charged, and thus we actually benefit from being hit by a geth pyro’s flamethrower. We’re honestly not sure where that one came from.”
"Definitely, though, provided I’ve got enough medigel, and that the mission won’t be compromised by me trying to give first aid during a firefight, I’ll be sure to use that medigel on our new friends from Khar’shan. Just as soon as I’m done helping any injured salarians, turians, drell, asari, krogan, quarians, or geth.”
 
FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!

I was at 21/27 missions completed on Insanity last night.

Today... 0

Everything reset, for the second time!

This has pissed me off!!!
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
Quick thoughts:

I thought I would hate this game but I'm having a ton of fun. I find it to be aesthetically extremely pleasing and the art direction is the best in the trilogy. Definitely has lots of throwback to ME1 more than ME2 in that regard. Music is incredible, combat is very fast and fluid compared to ME2, endless running is a huge plus.

I dunno, you guys. Lots of bitching in here for what is a pretty solid game. Don't even care about the ending as I already had it spoiled, and I've already accepted that ME games are equal parts great sci-fi and awful Bioware writing. The game is just a lot of fun. 4/5.

yeah, art is the best, music is good, combat is nice (try MP btw), but writing and quest design + lack of exploration and sidequests are definitely worse comparing to the previous games. But it has its moments which are pretty strong. Genophage mission was outstanding for me.
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
ME1 actually had to moving to different locations. There is nothing like Noveria or Virmire in terms of level progression or variety in 3.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
Yeah, exploration was lacking, but I don't recall ME1 having much deeper level design. ME3 felt about on par with ME2 in that regard.

ME1 actually had to moving to different locations. There is nothing like Noveria or Virmire in terms of level progression or variety in 3.


Even in ME2 I could "explore" the area sometimes. It was minimal but it was there. For example these two guys who were robbing the flat in the plague district. Also the human couple in the same distict. ME3 feels incredibly constricted even comparing to ME2. If you go somewhere other than Citadel you are holding a gun, i.e. you can expect only shooting and nothing else. They ditched holstering for the reason.

I want to like ME3. I really, really want to. But I can't. And this is like the first time in my life I'm angry about an entertainment product and that is ridiculous but whatever.

May be I'll be able to look past its flaws some day.
 
My first playthrough had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, but by the time I got to the end and looked back at everything it just dawned on me that it's a fundamentally flawed game. I think Bioware constricted themselves by making the ME series trilogy, they tried to cram SO much important story stuff into ME3 and it buckled under the pressure, resulting in the lack of exploration and rushed ending.

There were some genuinely great moments along the way though.
 
About 33 percent.

You're better off playing it once a month if you're going to go that slow.

Edit:I'm not saying the game is short, it's not, but people experienced with the series can navigate it pretty quickly. Listening to dialogue is a good deal of it.

Already?! Shoot. Welp, more multiplayer then.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
My first playthrough had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, but by the time I got to the end and looked back at everything it just dawned on me that it's a fundamentally flawed game. I think Bioware constricted themselves by making the ME series trilogy, they tried to cram SO much important story stuff into ME3 and it buckled under the pressure, resulting in the lack of exploration and rushed ending.

There were some genuinely great moments along the way though.

yep, feels like that.
 

rozay

Banned
My first playthrough had me on the edge of my seat the whole time, but by the time I got to the end and looked back at everything it just dawned on me that it's a fundamentally flawed game. I think Bioware constricted themselves by making the ME series trilogy, they tried to cram SO much important story stuff into ME3 and it buckled under the pressure, resulting in the lack of exploration and rushed ending.

There were some genuinely great moments along the way though.
I feel the same way. New game plus makes these flaws painfully apparent.

Can't love this game the same way I loved ME2 and even ME1. It's unfortunate that my gameplay feedback will only have 1 play through of SP and far too many hours of MP, not the kind of message I want to send to EA!
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
It's unfortunate that my gameplay feedback will only have 1 play through of SP and far too many hours of MP, not the kind of message I want to send to EA!

lol, never thought about it this way. I'm in the same boat with the ratio.
 

Veezy

que?
Does it carry over to ME3? If not i see no point in doing it again.

Well, if somebody is dead, then they are not in ME3. There are several specifics, the mass effect wiki covers it, but there is an effect. Most people have a replacement if they died in ME2, but it's not the same impact as when the real character is there.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
Why does it take a mathematical formula to keep your team alive in mass effect 2?

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/5855452

I just beat it last night and half my team died. Garrus, that doctor, and thane. Is it worth playing the last mission over to save everyone? Does my actions carry over to ME3?

You lost the 3 best guys of ME2. Shame on you!

You will miss a lot of dialogues if Garrus is dead in ME3, might want to redo it with him alive at least.
 

rozay

Banned
Does it carry over to ME3? If not i see no point in doing it again.
Garrus is a squadmate and if he's not alive you don't have a replacement. The number of squadmates in the game is substantially less than ME2, so I'd recommend keeping him alive at the very least. If by "the doctor" you mean Mordin, I liked his part in ME3 though I've heard the character that replaces him is pretty well written.

Everyone has a role in the game but some are incredibly minor.
 
I was talking about Dr. Karin Chakwas. I didn't send someone to walk her back to the ship.

I guess i'll do it over again. I saved right before going into the relay. But according to that link i posted, some of my team is going to die anyway as i did a couple missions before.
 
I was talking about Dr. Karin Chakwas. I didn't send someone to walk her back to the ship.

I guess i'll do it over again. I saved right before going into the relay. But according to that link i posted, some of my team is going to die anyway as i did a couple missions before.

You'll lose some of your crewmates, but no squad members. Send someone loyal (preferably Mordin or Jacob) with Chakwas and they should both be fine, too. Send a loyal Tali/Legion into the vents, pick a loyal Garrus or Miranda as squad leader both times, and be sure to leave two of Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed behind when they're 'holding the line'. That way, you should get 'em all out fine.

Except, of course, if they're not loyal. Chances are someone will still die then.
 
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