Kos Luftar
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Prequel?
Does this mean the final boss will be his wife and child?
Does this mean the final boss will be his wife and child?
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God of War: Ascension (PS3, Series Prequel) - Live stream 8AM PST 4/30
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hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
You mean like in Ghost of Sparta? It wasn't the best alternate weapon they've done, but it was a cool change. Plenty of room to reuse and improve it.
Play GHost of Sparta then.
Nizz
Member
I did but it was not used the best.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Not fan of this being prequel, but i love GOW so this is day one.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Maybe all the bad things he's done in his human past will manifest as living nightmare monsters. (Sort of like when
he fights his mother in Ghost of Sparta
At first I was joking, but as I think about it that would give them the opportunity to do crazy setpieces and giant bosses even without including conflict with gods or titans in the plot. It would also be a really interesting narrative conceit, to have some kind of mundane reality and nightmare world, or have the whole thing be one long
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MeisaMcCaffrey
After reading Todd Pappy's (the game director) GoW related tweets i'm somewhat convinced that they maybe have something that will change up the formula of the game and that this isn't just a 'straight-up prequel'.
https://twitter.com/#!/ToddPapy/status/192880105511587840
https://twitter.com/#!/ToddPapy/status/192987301490593795
I guess we'll see on April 30th.
https://twitter.com/#!/ToddPapy/status/192880105511587840
https://twitter.com/#!/ToddPapy/status/192987301490593795
I guess we'll see on April 30th.
TheJollyCorner
Member
prequel? Blah... so many steps forward just to take another step backwards.
I guess this means God of War 4 on the PS4.
As much as I've enjoyed Kratos, hopefully Ascension will be his last adventure as the protagonist.
I guess this means God of War 4 on the PS4.
As much as I've enjoyed Kratos, hopefully Ascension will be his last adventure as the protagonist.
I think it has something to do with GoW3 being the epitome of cinematic and linear gameplay at the time when that formula for game design was starting to get a ton of flak from the community.
time travel confirmed.
Nizz
Member
Yeah. I feel like popping in God of War 3 in tonight. Haven't played that game in a while. That was my first platinum trophy ever (only one of two total I have).
I have both God of War 1 & 2 HD at 80% as far as trophy progress. I may try to platinum those too but the challenges have been tough for me. :/
God of War, Mario, and Halo are definitely prolific. They appear all over their respective platforms. There's no arguing that.
With that said, I really enjoyed the first and third God of War, but not the second. I wish Stig Asmussen was on this one as well, but you know I thought Jaffe should have done the second one too. So we'll see. I'll give the guy a chance. Any background on the guy? Previous games, credits, etc?
I'm definitely feeling fatigue from the series, but I have been ever since the second and still think the third is one of the best games of all time. So, yeah...
With that said, I really enjoyed the first and third God of War, but not the second. I wish Stig Asmussen was on this one as well, but you know I thought Jaffe should have done the second one too. So we'll see. I'll give the guy a chance. Any background on the guy? Previous games, credits, etc?
I'm definitely feeling fatigue from the series, but I have been ever since the second and still think the third is one of the best games of all time. So, yeah...
the Fates in HD. maximum boobage.
Schrödinger's cat
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How is posting nothing but an image of a 23 year old iteration of videogame a response to the text you bolded?Teh Hamburglar said:
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It's kind of dumb to assume that because it's a prequel it can't change anything significant about the gameplay. It's not like the sequels made any huge changes. Seems just as possible that this prequel will do something new as if it was called GOW4.
Where it's set in the timeline isn't nearly as important in determining how much the game changes compared to considerations of risk and effort on the part of the devs.
I thought the same thing. He must have misread the post as meaning "games must combine story and gameplay" rather than "games now often combine story and gameplay."
Where it's set in the timeline isn't nearly as important in determining how much the game changes compared to considerations of risk and effort on the part of the devs.
Schrödinger's cat;37095801 said:
I thought the same thing. He must have misread the post as meaning "games must combine story and gameplay" rather than "games now often combine story and gameplay."
Combichristoffersen
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sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Schrödinger's cat;37095801 said:
Games don't need story to be awesome, that was my point....not sure how that was missed.
i think i'm just curious what other gods or creatures can beat guys like the Crono and Poseidon fights in GoW3.
Host Samurai
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I couldn't care less if this game had Kratos or not. It would have just been interesting with a new setting and cool new mythology. Egyptian, Shinto and other Asian mythology would lead to some sick enemy designs and crazy locations. A GoW game where you fight 1000 Arms Goddess of Mercy would be so fucking cool.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Yeah, that's fair. I'm wondering if rather than trying to beat those, which might be impossible, they'll veer off in a totally different direction and go for surprise instead of spectacle. I know a lot of people define GOW games by those giant moments, but at a certain point it's not feasible for SSM to try to outdo themselves anymore, and they would be smart to find other ways to impress.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
I read the bit you bolded. Games have come to be. In other words, things have evolved. Responding with nothing but an image of something that is nearly quarter of a century old seems to have missed the point of the text you chose to make bold.
Also: different genres. The puzzle game genre hasn't ever required a story but stuff like Portal certainly shows what can happen when writing is applied. I wonder how Portal 2 would have been received if it was a wordless collection of puzzle-rooms and had no story?
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OK. Now I want Kratos to have a portal gun.
Just finished watching that vid. It was really great hearing Barlog's and Jaffe's ideas on how they would've finished the franchise, the beginnings of Kratos as a character among other things. Apparently GOW2 was _really_ close to being a PS3 game(everyone on the team wanted that), but Yoshida "convinced" everyone to make it on PS2.
Scale of the battlefield man. You can't have him fighting titans in a prequel but you sure can have him fighting a hundred barbarians at once, or have a real hydra fight that isn't a set piece on a boat, etc..
I'm getting myself too amped up though. My head tells me it'll play just like every other GoW ever. Still be a great game, but more of the same. My heart really wants this to be a step forward in scale and introduce massive battles though.
Combichristoffersen
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Schrödinger's cat;37095979 said:
You kind of got that in Darksiders.
yea, but ya gotta have spectacle in the GoW games. i guess we can fight a giant whirlpool or something.
mckmas8808
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Being unlikable doesn't mean he's not a good character. There're plenty of great characters in movies and TV shows, that are unlikable.
Schrödinger's cat
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Indeed. Though, if I recall correctly, it was used mostly for puzzle stuff. Kratos could use it for RRRRAAAAGGE.
Combichristoffersen
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Schrödinger's cat;37096110 said:
Yeah, generally it was used for puzzles, although it was needed to reach some chests and stuff.
I agree, I just don't think Kratos is one of them. The majority of the stuff that happened to him was due to his own stupidity and negligence, he acted like an immature child about it all. I don't find him unlikable for the sense that he goes out and kills pretty much everyone, I find him unlikable to the reason this is happening is his own stupidity, which in turn doesn't make him a very interesting or good character to me.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
If 5 steaks 5 days in a row doesn't sound fucking awesome to you ... then clearly sir you do NOT in fact love steaks. Just sayin.
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StealthGoblin
Banned
What is Stig up to then? New IP?
Yoshida definitely made the right call.
As much as Barlog and Jaffe's ideas for the 3rd one would have been cool Im glad they weren't implemented, it's just too outThere. The trilogy needs to be stylistically consistent, and even though GOW3 had its problems story wise Im glad it ended the way it did. Now to bring full circle we need to go back to the beginning of Kratos before the really crazy ideas are added like Norse Gods and such.
The problem with it is that I think the game wants to sympathize with him and think that he is in the right to an extent, when he isn't. The only thing he has going is that the gods are stupid dicks as well, but that just means everyone is in the wrong.
The entirety of GoW3, I seriously didn't know who I wanted to win, because they were all so throughly unlikable. I remember thinking it'd be ideal if they all somehow killed each other.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Characters bringing pain upon themselves is a key element of tragedy. Kratos isn't the best realized character, necessarily, but the fact that his stubbornness and inability to take responsibility cause all his problems isn't a good reason to call him a "bad character."
Also, Walter White in Breaking Bad and Don Draper in Mad Men are responsible for a great deal of their own suffering and they're some of the best characters on TV.
Again, the difference is that I don't think the writers are aware of this the way the writers of breaking bad are. There is no character that points out the flaws of Kratos' logic like they do with Walter or anything, just "DAMN YOU KRATOS" "RAWR EAT MY BLADE". I keep getting the impression everywhere that I am somehow suppose to be rooting for kratos, which is just...
Thanks for that.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Now on the Facebook page for Playstation....mock if old
I hope that's the case. It seems that the franchise is a directors curse. I would prefer to have a strong creative direction of one guy and let him follow that to its fulfillment.
It's a curse on everyone. I get stressed just watching the making of videos for these games, these guys work themselves way too hard.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I completely agree that the writers don't deal with Kratos in a very sophisticated way. As for whether the intention is for the player to root for him, well, it probably is, because he's the protagonist of a video game, but I didn't get that impression as strongly as you, or maybe I did but it didn't bother me. I think they're aware that Kratos is an anti-hero. It's one of the first things they establish in the opening level of GOW1. Again, it boils down to execution for me. In GOW3 we started to see Kratos confronted with the consequences of his actions, but it wasn't developed well enough nor did it end up being the main thrust of the story. (Pandora, ugh.)