Pai Pai Master
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Athena, Pandora and the MASSIVE CHAMBER OF BOXES were the only lowpoints of GoW3 and not enough to bring it down from the fucking glorious opening and each and every amazing boss fight.
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God of War: Ascension (PS3, Series Prequel) - Live stream 8AM PST 4/30
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The fuck? Having different directors is really common for games and it allows them to focus on different things.
Magic Mushroom
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As long as the games are good... Which l think they are.
I was disappointed in the length. The game was really short and considering that, you spend a lot of time in giant box room, and with LOVE AND HOPE pandora.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Do AAA games that take 2-3 years to develop typically have the same director every time?
I didn't find it to be any shorter than the previous games and/or other games in the genre.
The only truly unforgivable aspects of GoW3 to me were Pandora's character and the ending. Other than that, I loved the whole thing.
Every God of War game has had a different director, I think, and the series has averaged 3 million units per game (God of War 3, in fact, has sold the highest thus far). I think it's a great idea to have new directors approach familiar material, which prevents it from getting stale.
badcrumble
Member
Hell, the Resident Evil games didn't ever repeat directors until Mikami did REMake and RE4.
gutter_trash
Banned
I agree that GOW3's room full of giant cube crates to be anti-climatick when compared to near end levels like the Temple Of Sisters of Fate in GOW2
2 was pretty damn long for me, atleast double the time it took me to go through 3. 1 might have been the same but it felt like I got more done, I think 3 just recycled the areas too much and they weren't all that visually distinctive to begin with.
I hold 2 in a much higher regard than 1 and 3 though.
Robot Pants
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Yea 2 is definitely the best. 1 and 3 are tied for me.
1 was great the first time through, but on replays there are some really slow parts that hold it down.
1 was great the first time through, but on replays there are some really slow parts that hold it down.
The game definitely felt like it had been rushed towards the end. Still my favorite of the series though (fluid combat, bosses, production values...).
I wish they had gone a different direction for Ascension but who knows, maybe it'll be the MGS3 of the GoW saga.
What bothers me is I just don't see SM voluntarily making a 3rd god of war prequel when they could have moved on to something new (I know there is probably another team that did so but still). I hope they come out and say otherwise because I'll have a lot more faith in the project knowing the decision came from the team, but this just reeks of being a Sony mandated game. The franchise has grown too big for them to let go of.
I'm interested to see where it goes too. The jump from God of War 1 to 2 was staggering, so try and imagine what leap we'll see from a game that was gestated so early on in the PS3's lifecycle.
I like that perspective. We'll see what happens.
Thats what I think it is going by it being the most ambitious title
shinobi602
Member
A mess? Probably one of the best well made series in recent memory. Excellent quality all around, excellent cinematic production values, great gameplay, etc.
Not seeing the "mess" here.
I don't know, Sony really tends to support dev decisions, that's why they didn't force ND to add Move support on UC3 and let me them do a new IP as well. Im sure the decision for a prequel came from SSM. And the studio from my understanding is much larger than ND so they could still be doing a whole new game while also working on Ascension.
Yeah I know, I don't know if we would see an Uncharted 1-Uncharted 2 jump, but i'm expecting some significant upgrades.
It would be pretty amazing if we get to control The Spartan army and go to war with Kratos leading the charge. It also sounds from the trailer that he won't be as ragefilled as he was previously which would make sense if this takes place before the death of his family.
I wish we could have gotten Balrogs ending for the trilogy though, the idea of Kratos becoming Death is pretty awesome to me. Jaffe's ideas were cool to, so personally either would have probably been better than the ending we got in 3.
The end is really my only issue with 3, other than that the game is a masterpiece. Anyone up for playing through the series soon? Maybe we could do a Gaf Plays thread.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
What about that spectacularly misjudged rhythm-action bit? (or was that what you refer to as Pandora?)
*Obligatory 100PPP comment*
There hasn't been a single bad GOW game. Anyone else surprised? I mean it's one of the 3 action series from last gen -the others being DMC and NG- to make the transition to current gen successfully but unlike the other titles God of War has remained a consistently great franchise. Man I hope I didn't jinx it 
Story and direction wise, gameplay is just fine.
Saving bigger surprises for E3?
GringoLOCOo
Member
I'm disappointed this is a prequel , i would of thought that the two psp prequels covered alot of ground of why Kratos is the way he is , Ghost of Sparta especially did a damn fine job in covering that , so really have no clue why they have to go backwards instead of forwards!
Still got faith in Sony Santa Monica though and i fully expect to be amazed and blown away by them on the 30th.
And i hope they amp up the big boss fights , i fully expected alot of Titan killing in GOW 3 but only got 1 :-/
Either way i'm excited there's another GOW game but not as excited as i would of been for a
GOW 4 reveal which is obviously coming for PS4
I wouldn't be surprised if GOW A ends with some sort of connection to GOW 4!!
Still got faith in Sony Santa Monica though and i fully expect to be amazed and blown away by them on the 30th.
And i hope they amp up the big boss fights , i fully expected alot of Titan killing in GOW 3 but only got 1 :-/
Either way i'm excited there's another GOW game but not as excited as i would of been for a
GOW 4 reveal which is obviously coming for PS4
I wouldn't be surprised if GOW A ends with some sort of connection to GOW 4!!
gundamkyoukai
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Katana_Strikes
Member
Can't friggen wait.
GOTY 2013 right here
GOTY 2013 right here
Must get confusing for Hades to have the underworld named Hades as well.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The story is really not much of a mess. Shit happens in God of War 1, Kratos vows to kill Ares. More shit happens in God of War 2, Kratos vows to kill Zeus. Even more shit happens at the end of GoW2 and the beginning of GoW3, Kratos vows to kill Zeus, all the gods, and the Titans. At the end of it, most if not everyone Kratos was aiming for is dead. At least they stuck with it.
There's definitely some unappealing parts in 3 like Ghost Athena and Pandora's shitty character, but other series have far more narrative issues that completely break down the point of the story they're trying to tell. At least God of War is consistent.
Escape Goat
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Either you die the hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
GuitarAtomik
Member
I will reserve judgement for when we actually see some stuff from this but here is my concern with it being a prequel:
Other than the gameplay obviously, GoW to me has always been about being epic (like classically epic) and about scale. GoW3 took that to the logical conclusion by having you literally kill all of the gods (and some titans) one by one and it doesn't get much bigger than that. I don't know how you escalate that and apparently Sony didn't either so they went prequel.
The problem is I just had a taste of Kratos taking down Zeus and a bunch of mountain sized creatures so why should I care at all about his adventures as a man? If the GoW story was anything more than generic revenge/rage journeys using Greek mythology tropes then I might, but story has never really been the focus of these games other than to serve the gameplay setting.
In other words, I don't see how a prequel (specifically one that takes place during his arguably physically weakest) can serve to do anything but hinder the actual gameplay experience. Maybe they have some interesting ideas in store and have a different direction for this one though (thus not calling it GoW4). We'll just have to wait and see.
Other than the gameplay obviously, GoW to me has always been about being epic (like classically epic) and about scale. GoW3 took that to the logical conclusion by having you literally kill all of the gods (and some titans) one by one and it doesn't get much bigger than that. I don't know how you escalate that and apparently Sony didn't either so they went prequel.
The problem is I just had a taste of Kratos taking down Zeus and a bunch of mountain sized creatures so why should I care at all about his adventures as a man? If the GoW story was anything more than generic revenge/rage journeys using Greek mythology tropes then I might, but story has never really been the focus of these games other than to serve the gameplay setting.
In other words, I don't see how a prequel (specifically one that takes place during his arguably physically weakest) can serve to do anything but hinder the actual gameplay experience. Maybe they have some interesting ideas in store and have a different direction for this one though (thus not calling it GoW4). We'll just have to wait and see.
The japanese action games don't focus on story or plot or characters though, it's just combat to them and that other stuff is just there because it has to be.
GoW does try to focus on that a bit but it fails in 3 and even 2 to a lesser extent. 3 was just terrible in that regard though and really screwed up near the end.
DragonKnight
Member
I also believe GOW3 to be the worst of the main game trilogy. Game played nothing like the "Fear Nothing" trailer. The Titan's were so underwhelming and the main quest paled in comparison to climbing Pandora's Tower or exploring the Temple of the Fates.
StevePharma
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They probably also created a ton of extra assets and rejected concepts during GoWIII that they could use to build another game on. A shame to let all that work go to waste imo.
That's funny because the second game is regarded, and correctly so, as the best in the series.
You should play 2, along with the Origins collection. Awesome games await you!
I was hoping for a sequel, honestly. Like maybe Kratos would redeem himself (like the teaser from a few days ago implied) by undoing the damage he had done to the world. I had to force myself to finish God of War 3 because of all the shitty things Kratos was doing to the world/people around him. On another note, the Gods were pretty underwhelming, except for Poseidon. It was disappointing that Hades, Zeus, Hermes, etc never grew to a colossal size and unleashed the full force of their powers on Kratos. It always felt like they were holding back.
Lion Heart
Banned
I always like 2 the least, too long and other things like story was worse than the other 2. 3 and 1 are tied but 3 is recent and more replayable but the story isn't as good.
SLEEPS7ALK3R
Banned
Your problem is the same as with Athena, writing Kratos off as a senseless brute simply because he's a soldier. He kills, maims and dismembers without flinching, but only because that's what he has been trained to do for a lifetime. Even so, there is still a sliver of empathy within him. It's not that hard to believe that Sparta, a militaristic nation, trained soldiers to be ruthless and unfeeling in combat but still honour and respect a set moral code. It's humans embracing their nature, which is violent and egotistical. Those are prime examples of elements of tragedy.
When DMC filters all the cheese and melodrama, we can say it's on par with GOW.
That guitar hero bit was.... ugh. I was thinking "why?!" the whole way throughSchrödinger's cat;37098280 said:
The problem with 3 is that it just doesn't have much of a story. Kratos fights the gods and that's it. The only really new thing was Pandora, and that was rather stupid and not fitting the games tone.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Bullshit they all try to tell a story , hell DMC2 mess up the story so bad they did prequel right after which had near 90 mins plus of cutscenes .
This whole idea that Japanese action games don't focus on story is a joke IMO.
If you want to say they focus on combat then that makes it worst as DMC2 was awful game in terms of combat and NG3 seems to be the same way .
GOW IMO has not hit the low point that's both those series have which is why even thought i don't like prequels i still look forward to the next one .
Hell GOW is not even my favorite action series DMC is but GOW has done allot of things right .