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Legend of Korra |OT| - Saturday Mornings Just Got Better

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Omikaru

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I think whoever came up with those new spoiler guidelines should PM Wiseblade to put them in the OP.

I'll get on it.

Edit: Here's what I sent him. Use this post for reference until something happens.

What counts as spoilers?
All media which hasn't been aired in an episode. This includes officially released pictures and trailers, and any leaked content.

How should I present spoiler media?
All spoiler media should only be linked to with a bolded spoiler warning. If the actual URL has spoilers in it, just hide it behind some text. Important: Do not use IMG tags for spoiler pics.

Examples:
1) Here's a spoiler video!
2) Here's a spoiler image!

(In both examples I've not used real spoilers, so click away!)

How should I present text spoilers?
Obviously use the spoiler tags, but be sure to state outside of the spoiler tags, as vaguely as possible, what the spoiler is about.

Examples:
1) Episode 3 spoilers from today's leaked clip:
Amon can firebend?!?
2) Here's a spoiler from that leaked pic:
Korra and Bolin kiss! LOLz to you shippers!

(Again, in both cases I've not actually used real spoilers!)
 

Omikaru

Member
Nice work Omi. oh and:



WHY do you do this to us?? My eyes!

Well I think she's beautiful.

Legend_of_Korra_FACE_REVEALED_by_alternatecoppa.jpg

Look at those unique features. You won't forget that face...
 

Trey

Member
What spoilers? I didn't come across any spoilers that I didn't actively highlight myself. Going forward are we not going to be allowed to discuss them in tags, and just pretend they don't exist whatsoever until the episode airs?

Edit: Just read Omi's proposition.
 

Ezduo

Banned
Episode 4 has been leaked. Watching now.
Yeah, someone found it on Nick's servers.

Good episode though this show is moving quite briskly and I'm not sure how I feel about it. What I liked about season 2 of the original series is how it slowly built up to the climax whereas Korra has kind of hit the ground running.
 
Korra needs to feel the pain of loss, regret, fear and real helplessness. She's led a completely sheltered life having everyone protect her, her real family and her masters and white Lotus, getting anything she reasonably wanted. She's had a completely easy life compared to Aang and the original cast, and even her friends have had a tough time growing up.

Episode 4 SPOILERS
She definitely feels fear and helplessness now
END SPOILERS
 

Omikaru

Member
Yeah, someone found it on Nick's servers.

Good episode though this show is moving quite briskly and I'm not sure how I feel about it. What I liked about season 2 of the original series is how it slowly built up to the climax whereas Korra has kind of hit the ground running.
I was a bit cynical about that at first, but the more I think about it, the more I can grow to like it. I think the only downside is that Korra doesn't have a significantly smaller regular cast than ATLA, so it feels like some of them aren't getting enough air time (especially Bolin, who feels less like a main character and more like someone who makes a regular appearance).

I think we'll be fine with at least two seasons, though. And wasn't the opportunity for more floated? Korra may have more adventures beyond the Equalist Revolt...

In regards to spoilers, Wiseblade got back to me, and he said he's adding the spoiler guidelines to the OP this evening. If you don't know what they are, check them out here, especially considering some of you will be discussing Episode 4 for a few days before it officially airs.
 

Amir0x

Banned
I'd be disappointed with hitting the ground running if the show somehow was reduced in quality.

So far, this show is infinitely better than Avatar Season 1 in a comparable time frame, so I'm all smiles atm

And I was one of the people who used to be very paranoid that characterization and stuff would fall by the wayside due to the reduced episode count
 

Raxus

Member
I don't see why the quality would dip now. Episode 3 actually looked better than the previous two episodes with the first real fight in the series.
 
I really dont compare LoK with TLA, its pretty unfair comparing it with TLA with only 4 episodes theres a lot of things to happen yet.

After watching episode 4, I believe in Amon. Very good episode showing new characters and developing Korra. And the end of the episode, goddamn.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
Well watched episode 4 and
damn! Amon has to be one the best villians ever. Ozai and Azula and any of the other antagonists from TLA look like chumps compared to him.
 

Tuck

Member
Watched episode 4. Some thoughts:

-Bolin is great. His interactions with Korra on Air Temple Island felt very natural and funny. He's a cool guy, even if a bit... clueless.

-Mako meeting that girl was adorable. Really nicely done.

-Amon continues to be freaky as fuck, and he raised a good point about Korra becoming a Martyr if he took her bending away.

-Tarlock seemed... nice. Nicer than expected, though certainly manipulative.

-Lin continues to be a bitch. Just this time she wasn't such a likable bitch. I hope they explain why she's so mean to Korra.

-Flashback scene was brief but cool. They seem to be hinting at something important. They mention at one point that Aang faced his own problem in Republic City, but dealt with it. All I know is that he, Sokka and Toph did not look happy.

-Aang's beard is weird.
 

AniHawk

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And I was one of the people who used to be very paranoid that characterization and stuff would fall by the wayside due to the reduced episode count

yeah, it's been super impressive how much they've condensed into just three episodes so far. the absolute worst of it was the first five minutes of the first episode when you had stuff like pema telling tenzin she was pregnant and that she just wanted a nonbender for a kid. then korra left the southern water tribe and it picked up tremendously.

so much could have gone wrong in a sequel to avatar. and there were a lot of different roads to take, but i think they chose the boldest direction (completely ditching pretty much everyone from the previous generation and moving the clock forward 60-70 years). the fact that they made bending work in republic city/the 1920s is amazing. everything feels like it fits like it logically would.
 

Khezu

Member
Nick needs to really invest in some security, or at the very least pick a pass that isn't the most obvious braindead thing they could think off.
 
Nick needs to really invest in some security, or at the very least pick a pass that isn't the most obvious braindead thing they could think off.

I'm guessing it has more to do with the fact that people aren't rushing to try and find out the next spongebob episode or dora the explorer episode. I think avatar brings a bigger and older audience than their other shows.
 
I hate show leaks because then I've got to become more careful on reddit and tumblr :s and even then I'll get some spoilers. At least it's only 2 days until it airs.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Amon is clever and menacing as fuck. What a perfect way they've built him so far. Better than Fire Lord for sure.

Anihawk said:
yeah, it's been super impressive how much they've condensed into just three episodes so far. the absolute worst of it was the first five minutes of the first episode when you had stuff like pema telling tenzin she was pregnant and that she just wanted a nonbender for a kid. then she left the southern water tribe and it picked up tremendously.

so much could have gone wrong in a sequel to avatar. and there were a lot of different roads to take, but i think they chose the boldest direction (completely ditching pretty much everyone from the previous generation and moving the clock forward 60-70 years). the fact that they made bending work in republic city/the 1920s is amazing. everything feels like it fits like it logically would.

yup. So many aspects of the show need to be praised - the sort of awesome asian/american 1920s style is astonishingly well thought out and put together. The costume design is just fantastic. The animation is some of the strongest I've ever seen for a show of this type - the effort here is mind-boggling.

What I really can't help but consistently coming back to is how convincingly they've "aged up" the world - I can instantly tell when someone is related to someone in the past usually before they outright tell everyone, I can easily come to the conclusion that the state of the world is the logical path it would have taken when these new structures come into place. I feel these conflicts would actually occur if this universe were real, and so it's all the more engrossing. It's so so well done

Tuck said:
Amir0x: The leak is REALLY good quality, if that is what you are worried about.

Nah, more worried about getting caught pirating an episode like that. Early releases scare me for my past history. Rather not do it if I don't have to :p
 

Raxus

Member
Amon is clever and menacing as fuck. What a perfect way they've built him so far. Better than Fire Lord for sure.

Hell I am just happy to have a series where the main villain has no problem with getting his hands dirty. Amon and the Equalists are everything I want in an enemy. The grunts are actually formidable, the main villain and his right hand man are even tougher than their grunts.

As long as Amon's plan isn't as cliche as blah blah blah world domination blah blah blah then then he will be perfect. The only thing I fear is they are going to nerf the Equalists.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Hell I am just happy to have a series where the main villain has no problem with getting his hands dirty. Amon and the Equalists are everything I want in an enemy. The grunts are actually formidable, the main villain and his right hand man are even tougher than their grunts.

As long as Amon's plan isn't as cliche as blah blah blah world domination blah blah blah then then he will be perfect. The only thing I fear is they are going to nerf the Equalists.

Yeah, I mean he obviously has ambition. I'm just not sure if that ambition goes beyond removing all benders from the world. He is almost building himself into a spiritual leader, after all, and with that comes power.

"The spirits have spoken to me..." etc

Amon is rather trope savvy. I like it.

This series is shaping up to be excellent.

Yeah, I mean I was almost like 'dang Amon that's right, strike fear into her heart'

If Amon's story is true, it's kind of hard not to be a little sympathetic - he's not killing these people after all. He wants to remove their bending, which is perfectly understandable if what happened really did occur.
 

Omikaru

Member
So I caved and checked out episode 4. Pretty major spoilers for that episode:
Any doubts I had about the series going too fast have been thrown to the wayside. Characters are developing well, and the drip-drop of recurring, but not main, characters being introduced is great. Asami Sato is interesting; she brings out a whole different side to Mako that you wouldn't expect (and it's very sweet), and is useful to kick Korra when she's at her most vulnerable.

I'm sure most of this show's audience will have felt like she did at that point, and for much of the teenage audience it'll probably be a raw feeling that they can relate to, so it instantly creates sympathy for her. Very well written.

Bolin again doesn't get much of a role in this one, other than seeing a sweet side to him (when he offered Korra those gifts for saving him from Amon), but that was quickly turned against him to emphasise the poor-timing of his good gesture, and the hopelessness of his advances on Korra when Tarrlok gazumped him with lavish gifts to try and sweeten her into joining his task force.

As for Amon, he's great. He's a terrifying villain who is calculating and manipulative like Azula, but not crazy or evil like she was, and not relatively cardboard like Ozai either. I think as far as this series/universe goes, he will be one of the more memorable characters.

I think that's all I have to say about episode 4. I'll be watching it again once my iTunes download of it is ready.
 

Raxus

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Yeah, I mean he obviously has ambition. I'm just not sure if that ambition goes beyond removing all benders from the world. He is almost building himself into a spiritual leader, after all, and with that comes power.

"The spirits have spoken to me..." etc

If it is one thing I am certain of it is that Amon is lying about something (if not everything) in his story. It goes without saying his plans are greater than a world without bending and his reasoning behind that is actually a strawman argument since non-benders had just as big of an effect on war as benders. His parents being killed by fire benders COULD be true but without him revealing what is behind his mask it is likely that whole story is a lie as well.

I do think his energy bending is 100% real since that is what makes him a real threat in the series but the true reveal on that will only be shown halfway through the series (if not longer).
 
art took a major dip in this episode. I wonder if they're going back to TLA style episodes where one episode looks bad then the next looks good and so on and so forth. It would make sense since studio MIR is composed of people from JM animation so maybe they adopted the same work ethic

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just to make my self clear, I know that animated shows vary in animation/art quality it's just that TLA was a very consistent show in that one episode looked bad then the next looked good. eg.ep 4 looks bad, ep 5 looks good. Not just special moments looked good, it was literally back and forth between bad and good animation/art. I guess this is the start of that cycle for Korra.
 

Amir0x

Banned
If it is one thing I am certain of it is that Amon is lying about something (if not everything) in his story. It goes without saying his plans are greater than a world without bending and his reasoning behind that is actually a strawman argument since non-benders had just as big of an effect on war as benders. His parents being killed by fire benders COULD be true but without him revealing what is behind his mask it is likely that whole story is a lie as well.

I do think his energy bending is 100% real since that is what makes him a real threat in the series but the true reveal on that will only be shown halfway through the series (if not longer).

I don't know. I would be kind of sad if his story turned out to be false - it really legitimizes his position and gives him motivation that would be understandable because much of the audience knows the tyranny of the fire kingdom. It serves to reason that some of that would have impacted non-benders, who might have been inspired to strike back.

I can also sympathize with the argument that benders caused a lot of the wars. I don't know enough about Avatar universe war history, but it does at least seem like a lot of the over-the-top destruction caused in said wars would be diminished without bending at the very least.

I am not "TEAM AMON" or whatever the Twilight fangirling equivalent is. I just say I understand and sympathize with the Equalist movement, which frankly is a triumph for the writing.
 

Grakl

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art took a major dip in this episode. I wonder if they're going back to TLA style episodes where one episode looks bad then the next looks good and so on and so forth. It would make sense since studio MIR is composed of people from JM animation so maybe they adopted the same work ethic

Yeah, the difference was notable. Eh, still not bad. Will probably happen as you say.
 
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