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[Mr_Appleby]

you have to delet your save and the patch.
if you only delet the patch, the game will not proceed.

tried deleting the patch then playing on another account? could prob. keep your save that way.

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The Catacombs is probably the last area you should go to in the entire game lol. Go back to the dragon bridge and open the door to the lower Undead Burg using the key found next to the large shortcut gate in Undead Parish in front of the church.

not if you want to up your estus flasks in a timely manner. whole area can be run through extremely quickly. i usually whack together a +2 or +3 divine reinforced club or something equally shitty, belt through the skellies,

Spoiler

summon LEEEEEEEEROY JENKINS

for the hell of it, and pick my nose

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while the boss fight takes care of itself.

Area is really quite short and being able to kindle stronger bonfires early on is a hefty bonus, plus access to fire/chaos weapons. i always have it done by the time i reach sen's fortress.

 

[AEGISX]

nvm

 

[AgentOtaku]

Spoiler

The Catacombs is probably the last area you should go to in the entire game lol. Go back to the dragon bridge and open the door to the lower Undead Burg using the key found next to the large shortcut gate in Undead Parish in front of the church.

holy shit, lol okay

 

[Derrick01]

I wouldn't say catacombs are the last area to go, at least in terms of difficulty. I just did it without breaking a sweat as the skeletons are weak as hell (I just cleared 4 kings so I'm around that area in the game).

Also about the boss in that area...what kind of joke was that? 4 swings from my furysword and he's dead. Took about 15 seconds, no lie. I feel like I'm being trolled here.

 

[Mr_Appleby]

I wouldn't say catacombs are the last area to go, at least in terms of difficulty. I just did it without breaking a sweat as the skeletons are weak as hell (I just cleared 4 kings so I'm around that area in the game).

Also about the boss in that area...what kind of joke was that? 4 swings from my furysword and he's dead. Took about 15 seconds, no lie. I feel like I'm being trolled here.

yeah see my above post, catacombs is actually really easy. A bit like Demon's Souls world 5, a tough (at first) level followed by a pushover boss. It's worth going there as soon as you get/craft a divine weapon simply for the right of kindling and the blacksmith

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and a derp mask, gotta get one of those of course

. Once you've been through it a few times and learnt all the shortcuts it takes like 30 minutes to clear on a new game.

 

[2AdEPT]

tried deleting the patch then playing on another account? could prob. keep your save that way.




not if you want to up your estus flasks in a timely manner. whole area can be run through extremely quickly. i usually whack together a +2 or +3 divine reinforced club or something equally shitty, belt through the skellies,

Spoiler

summon LEEEEEEEEROY JENKINS

for the hell of it, and pick my nose

Spoiler

while the boss fight takes care of itself.

Area is really quite short and being able to kindle stronger bonfires early on is a hefty bonus, plus access to fire/chaos weapons. i always have it done by the time i reach sen's fortress.

^^^^^^^^^this

plus you can get the great scythe and gravelord sword....and the TWOP miracle.....and the Darkmoon seance ring!!! LOtsof reasons to go for all sorts of different reasons.......many of my characters go there immediately before ringing gargoyle bell...my early game usually starts with queelag so I can get the pyro and then homeward bone after scoring the gold hemmed set.....the patches stuff is nice to have early also....even if you don't go all the way through the tomb.

@ agent otaku - if you want to tough out catacombs it can be done at low level, but then if you do it would be best to get a shield with decent stability. Also helps to have some crowd thinners like lava pyro....once you kill the shaman dressed in black through each section, then the skellies stay dead no matter what you use. If you are ok dying a few times to get the lay of the land, running through without even fightin them if you know where you are going saves time, For exampe, once you know where to go to get to Vamos....the first wave of skellies can be put to death as the shaman is visible from the cliff and can be shot with a bow. The 2nd wave of skeelies that follow you will fall down a spiral staircase just before Vamos....they may not die but you can plunge on them if they survive their fall. Vamous opens a sortcut, then the rest as Appleby said is god...hire Leroy to do the pinwheel skellies and pushover boss for you and you are 2/3 done the level and can even branch into TOTG beofre clearing out the other loot in catacoms.

played today for the first time since before christmas.....got halfwaythrough skyrim and then started doign the witcher series instead......sooo rusty after the witcher controls were so punishing....soooo nice when I finally got my souls groove back though....such fluid combat vs. other games....played with an AWESOME vet player who was with the series since demons release.....his kirk "toon" he called it, was two hitting the giants in anor lando and he basically killed both orn and smu for my Darkmoon project character, who didn't even have proper faith stuff yet (gravelord dance and TWOP)....he was level 25 I was 30.....what is the proper translation of "toon" character????? (sucks to be old I think)

 

[fuzzyreactor]

anyone else hate Darkmoon players? I make sure to gank them every chance i get. All of them use DMB and spam WoG. Such an annoying covenant. Dont even leave me humanity when i kill them

 

[AgentOtaku]

So basically at this point I should push for some offensive miracles or somethin'?

All I have is heal and as I said, have been focusing on brute melee/blocking 90 percent of the time.

...maybe I need to buy more firebombs

 

[2AdEPT]

anyone else hate Darkmoon players? I make sure to gank them every chance i get. All of them use DMB and spam WoG. Such an annoying covenant. Dont even leave me humanity when i kill them

its the only covenant I haven't tried at all in my prevous 5-6 playthroughs....Just started an old project character up to join said covenenant...I will be using dex but this character already is set up for faith as well........in which case I prolly will at least have WOG on hand .....and come on....it should be obvious that ALL darkmoon covenant players would and should use DMB, the best prize in the covenant, if not the whole game?!?!?!??

I may not like it, but I gotta give it chance.....

So basically at this point I should push for some offensive miracles or somethin'?

All I have is heal and as I said, have been focusing on brute melee/blocking 90 percent of the time.

...maybe I need to buy more firebombs

You could try faith, or you could add firebombs. getting into, and ranking up in the sunbro covenant was my favourite thing to do with a faith character as you eventaully get to throw lighting bolts.....Godly. BUt really, what it sounds you are lacking and craving right now is a bit of pyro. Pyro ranks with souls, not stat points....so for a new player, you can never go wrong maxing this out and deciding later if you want to switch to magic or faith. Now there are a lot of possible spoilers if you want to get instructed on this...and I can recommend a path if you want.....but for now I'll just say get a pyro glove and try that out before getting into magic or faith just yet.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

its the only covenant I haven't tried at all in my prevous 5-6 playthroughs....Just started an old project character up to join said covenenant...I will be using dex but this character already is set up for faith as well........in which case I prolly will at least have WOG on hand .....and come on....it should be obvious that ALL darkmoon covenant players would and should use DMB, the best prize in the covenant, if not the whole game?!?!?!??

I may not like it, but I gotta give it chance.....

DMB does look bad ass. They just annoy me because everything about them is overpowered.

-They invade ppl lower level.
-DMB is the best buff in the game
-WoG is the best spell in the game

it pretty much takes no skill to win as a darkmoon. Throw in some havels armor, derp mask, DWGR and BKGA or Zwei and you got 80% of the Darkmoon users.

I always see Darkwraiths stop fighting the host and attack Darkmoons when they invade. Makes me happy lol

 

[Error]

the whole point of being a darkmoon is to get the DMB spell, so why you get mad when darkmoons use it?

a lot of people spam WoG, not just darkmoons.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

the whole point of being a darkmoon is to get the DMB spell, so why you get mad when darkmoons use it?

a lot of people spam WoG, not just darkmoons.

i dont get mad when they use it. i just don't like the covenant or respect them enough to battle them fair.

 

[CountAntonius]

SL 120 NG+++ PVP Build

What hundreds of hours multiple playthroughs, forums/wiki/guide scouring has led me to. I really enjoy PVP with this guy.

 

[maomaoIYP]

Darkmoons have the worst invasion rate without counting gravelords and dragons, and I'm not that sure that they can invade people of a lower level. They do have the best buff (but not by a long stretch), but it's not anywhere close to being easy getting it. WoG is only the "best" spell because it's fast. Against experienced players WoG is just a surefire way to get backstabbed for free.

 

[AgentOtaku]

its the only covenant I haven't tried at all in my prevous 5-6 playthroughs....Just started an old project character up to join said covenenant...I will be using dex but this character already is set up for faith as well........in which case I prolly will at least have WOG on hand .....and come on....it should be obvious that ALL darkmoon covenant players would and should use DMB, the best prize in the covenant, if not the whole game?!?!?!??

I may not like it, but I gotta give it chance.....



You could try faith, or you could add firebombs. getting into, and ranking up in the sunbro covenant was my favourite thing to do with a faith character as you eventaully get to throw lighting bolts.....Godly. BUt really, what it sounds you are lacking and craving right now is a bit of pyro. Pyro ranks with souls, not stat points....so for a new player, you can never go wrong maxing this out and deciding later if you want to switch to magic or faith. Now there are a lot of possible spoilers if you want to get instructed on this...and I can recommend a path if you want.....but for now I'll just say get a pyro glove and try that out before getting into magic or faith just yet.

Thanks for the info

Yeah, my whole thing is I wanted to see how far I could get in this without consulting a guide/GAF at all. I think I've done pretty well so far ...though I had about 20 hours of Demon's Souls experience

 

[CountAntonius]

DMB does look bad ass. They just annoy me because everything about them is overpowered.

-They invade ppl lower level.
-DMB is the best buff in the game
-WoG is the best spell in the game

it pretty much takes no skill to win as a darkmoon. Throw in some havels armor, derp mask, DWGR and BKGA or Zwei and you got 80% of the Darkmoon users.

I always see Darkwraiths stop fighting the host and attack Darkmoons when they invade. Makes me happy lol

I agree. I was using a giant armor set up and dmb but I prefer darkwariths so I use sunlight blade instead. I have WOG but only use it when i'm being double teamed(often). I use an Estoc cause it's the only weapon type I really enjoy. My dex is at 40 and without buffs it is a lot of work to get a win. I went with armor that gave me no stamina penalties eventhough it's weaker and had to use the wolf ring to get my poise to 80. Started using this current armor today and so far it's a good fit for my play style and I love how it looks.

So I'm going for another new game plus and want to leave as many hot pvp zones open as possible. I really want to leave forest alone but I believe the only way to gt to Darkwraith and eventually kiln for pvp is to beat sif right? Shame.

How do these things work if I beat the boss in a level I can't summon anyone or be invaded while alive correct? Only I can invade others? Or Can I be invaded by darkmoon and darkwraith regardless if I beat the boss or not?

 

[maomaoIYP]

So I'm going for another new game plus and want to leave as many hot pvp zones open as possible. I really want to leave forest alone but I believe the only way to gt to Darkwraith and eventually kiln for pvp is to beat sif right? Shame.

How do these things work if I beat the boss in a level I can't summon anyone or be invaded while alive correct? Only I can invade others? Or Can I be invaded by darkmoon and darkwraith regardless if I beat the boss or not?

You can't get invaded if the boss in that area is dead. You can leave the Tarus demon, Priscilla, Gwendolyn and Gwyn. You can leave Sif AND join the darkwraiths if you do a BB glitch to transfer the covenant of artorias, but if you go into NG+ you'll have to shut Sif down again.

 

[CountAntonius]

You can't get invaded if the boss in that area is dead. You can leave the Tarus demon, Priscilla, Gwendolyn and Gwyn. You can leave Sif AND join the darkwraiths if you do a BB glitch to transfer the covenant of artorias, but if you go into NG+ you'll have to shut Sif down again.

Yeah I figured out that much. But leveling to 120 without ng+ doesn't sound much fun at all. Lord souls can be carried over in the BB glitch?

Is the covenant of artorias tradable? I may just keep going instead of BB glitch cause I like having more than one Sunlight blade. So I guess forests for everything else is a fair trade. The Garden outside of the seal is that sif as well or is that moonlight butterfly?

 

[maomaoIYP]

Yeah I figured out that much. But leveling to 120 without ng+ doesn't sound much fun at all. Lord souls can be carried over in the BB glitch?

Is the covenant of artorias tradable? I may just keep going instead of BB glitch cause I like having more than one Sunlight blade. So I guess forests for everything else is a fair trade. The Garden outside of the seal is that sif as well or is that moonlight butterfly?

Lord souls are counted as keys, so they don't transfer. You could just make it to NG+++, keep wherever you want open except for the kiln, with 2 sunlight blades,3 WoGs, and every covenant. I don't think covenant of artorias is droppable.

 

[CountAntonius]

I'll probably do that. Only reason I wanted the Kiln was the pvp in that place.

 

[Soulhouf]

DMB does look bad ass. They just annoy me because everything about them is overpowered.

-They invade ppl lower level.
-DMB is the best buff in the game
-WoG is the best spell in the game

it pretty much takes no skill to win as a darkmoon. Throw in some havels armor, derp mask, DWGR and BKGA or Zwei and you got 80% of the Darkmoon users.

I always see Darkwraiths stop fighting the host and attack Darkmoons when they invade. Makes me happy lol

They are the punisher. You killed people/NPC/whatever so they will come and punish you.
It's only natural that they have the best stuff.

I am a Darkmoon Blade but I never use WotG unless I find myself against 2 or 3 people or if the host himself use that miracle.

With that said I saw some more annoying Darkwraiths rank 3 with Havel Armor. You attack them but since they have a lot of poise, they use it to drain 10 humanities with dark hand and flee. That's actually way more annoying to me...

 

[AgentOtaku]

So yeah, while I wuv the gameplay in Dark, does the story ever become even a little more pronounced. I know it's up to alot of interpretation but still...

I dunno, at this point, while I dig the gameplay in Dark, I preferred the world/plot of Demon's alot more. I mean, I couldn't even tell you the basic plot of Dark without having to look it up =(

 

[Misterinenja]

So yeah, while I wuv the gameplay in Dark, does the story ever become even a little more pronounced. I know it's up to alot of interpretation but still...

I dunno, at this point, while I dig the gameplay in Dark, I preferred the world/plot of Demon's alot more. I mean, I couldn't even tell you the basic plot of Dark without having to look it up =(

Keep your ears open, use "Talk" -option on all the NPCs, read item descriptions and examine your surroundings. It's pretty much centered around religious allegories, life and death etc. and the game expects you to draw your own conclusions about the characters, gods and their motives.

You'll definitely get more of the story when you proceed with the game.

 

[AgentOtaku]

Keep your ears open, use "Talk" -option on all the NPCs, read item descriptions and examine your surroundings. It's pretty much centered around religious allegories, life and death etc. and the game expects you to draw your own conclusions about the characters, gods and their motives.

You'll definitely get more of the story when you proceed with the game.

k thanks

 

[Hawkian]

I found the story much more straightforward and accessible in Dark Souls than Demon's. The very end of the game was very compelling in Demon's Souls for sure and I loved some of the characters that did not return, but I feel like I have a much clearer understanding of the world and how the pieces fit together in Dark Souls.

 

[AgentOtaku]

I found the story much more straightforward and accessible in Dark Souls than Demon's. The very end of the game was very compelling in Demon's Souls for sure and I loved some of the characters that did not return, but I feel like I have a much clearer understanding of the world and how the pieces fit together in Dark Souls.

Really?

fuck, I need to pay attention then because I don't get that AT ALL. Then again, I guess I need to get a bit further in.

 

[Sblargh]

Oh ash lake. How I hated everything about you. Getting there, staying there, getting back. *sigh*.

 

[Akainu]

Was their ever a reason why they use souls as currency. Demon's Souls had one.

 

[Mistouze]

Fuck Gwyn hahahah! I can consistently counter his first hit but I still struggle with his one-armed combo, I go for the second or third hit and succeed about half the time. Awesome music though.

 

[Sajjaja]

I love invading. I lose often, but thats how you learn. But when I do lose, its mostly 3v1s. I dont mind most of the time, but when they camp and the newbie of the bunch points down when you die.... THAT PISSES ME OFF! Fuck right off, you didn't do shit motherfucker.

If I lose, I expect a bow, and I try to do it all the time, but people are assholes.... fuck being nice....


Also, feel free to add me Sajjaja.

 

[CSampson]

RE: Story

First time through I didn't pay much attention. One thing I noticed, however, was this game leaves a lot of question marks up in the air. they want the player to fill in the missing gaps. You see a lot of theory being thrown around w/ regards to who is who in the DaS universe. That's what really gets me interested in the universe. It's like the developers purposefully left out some tidbits so that players could put them together based on clues (eg, weapon descriptions, familiar insignia on enemies, little details like that).

 

[Hawkian]

RE: Story

First time through I didn't pay much attention. One thing I noticed, however, was this game leaves a lot of question marks up in the air. they want the player to fill in the missing gaps. You see a lot of theory being thrown around w/ regards to who is who in the DaS universe. That's what really gets me interested in the universe. It's like the developers purposefully left out some tidbits so that players could put them together based on clues (eg, weapon descriptions, familiar insignia on enemies, little details like that).

Indeed. I really enjoyed our little discussion of Priscilla a dozen pages back or so.

 

[KennyLinder]

SL 120 NG+++ PVP Build

What hundreds of hours multiple playthroughs, forums/wiki/guide scouring has led me to. I really enjoy PVP with this guy.

Wow, he looks amazing. When you say PvP build, what does that mean? I know its Player VS Player, but what's special about him? How you leveled him up?

 

[zewone]

I really wish you had to agree to a PVP. Some asshole just comes in an ruins my run because he's been playing for months and I'm just trying to get some help for the boss. Then I have to waste another humanity. It's ridiculous that I have to stay hollow just so I don't attract any unnecessary attention when exploring a new area.

 

[Hawkian]

I really wish you had to agree to a PVP. Some asshole just comes in an ruins my run because he's been playing for months and I'm just trying to get some help for the boss. Then I have to waste another humanity. It's ridiculous that I have to stay hollow just so I don't attract any unnecessary attention when exploring a new area.

:-/

I wish I could sympathize but you're missing the point of a very high-level design decision without which the game would not be the same. If you want to avoid invasion by players, just play offline. In human form you can still summon the NPC phantoms (and you will be occasionally invaded by NPCs at a couple points in the game).

 

[zewone]

:-/

I wish I could sympathize but you're missing the point of a very high-level design decision without which the game would not be the same. If you want to avoid invasion by players, just play offline. In human form you can still summon the NPC phantoms (and you will be occasionally invaded by NPCs at a couple points in the game).

I enjoy playing online. I love reading the messages, checking bloodstains to be aware of dangers, and getting help from other players. Unless I'm missing something that will click with me later on, I'm not sure how having players agree to PvP would be a bad thing.

 

[Dyno]

Kiln of the First Flame - The place is kind of nuts. Five Black Knights who often drop all kinds of amazing gear plus they drop all kinds of chunks. It's almost as if the developer is giving you a great reason to NOT finish the game. After opening Kiln you can build up as many weapons as you please. There is no more choosing one path over another. You could simply farm and PVP in Kiln until you have all the upgraded weapons you want. I didn't even farm that much and I ended up with three extra weapons that I put up to +14.

Finally finished and I will put this down for a while before playing NG+. I need to play a bunch of shooters or something because I was getting a bit burned out on this. Dark Souls is just like crack and I don't enjoy being addicted to a game for this long a period.

Good game though, really good.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

:-/

I wish I could sympathize but you're missing the point of a very high-level design decision without which the game would not be the same. If you want to avoid invasion by players, just play offline. In human form you can still summon the NPC phantoms (and you will be occasionally invaded by NPCs at a couple points in the game).

I agree its part of the design but i also think there should be an item that's the opposite of the dead finger. Something that decreases the rate of invasions. I honestly cant play for longer than 3 minutes without getting invaded in most areas. It can become quite annoying.

 

[Sblargh]

I really wish you had to agree to a PVP. Some asshole just comes in an ruins my run because he's been playing for months and I'm just trying to get some help for the boss. Then I have to waste another humanity. It's ridiculous that I have to stay hollow just so I don't attract any unnecessary attention when exploring a new area.

I agree and I agree since Demons' Souls. Being invaded is not fun. You should not have to deal with some asshole in a single player game. I was going from the first bonfire on Undead Burg (the first bonfire after firelink shrine, I was maybe SL 3 or 4) to the first boss and someone who clearly went out of his way to get the better gear possible without killing the boss in the area went and just ran over me.
Yeah, real fun.

 

[Hawkian]

I enjoy playing online. I love reading the messages, checking bloodstains to be aware of dangers, and getting help from other players. Unless I'm missing something that will click with me later on, I'm not sure how having players agree to PvP would be a bad thing.

It would be a terrible thing because playing online in human form in order to get the benefits that come along with it (summoning other human players to help you) carries with it the risk of being invaded at any time, which means you need to decide whether or not it's worth spending the humanity. Being invaded provides some of the most terrifying, unpredictable moments in the game and they are dynamic by nature. Defeating an invader is among the most triumphant and satisfying things you can do in any video game, specifically because you were attacked against your will on your own turf.

You can obtain the other benefits you described of the online without risking invasion by staying hollow

I agree and I agree since Demons' Souls. Being invaded is not fun. You should not have to deal with some asshole in a single player game. I was going from the first bonfire on Undead Burg (the first bonfire after firelink shrine, I was maybe SL 3 or 4) to the first boss and someone who clearly went out of his way to get the better gear possible without killing the boss in the area went and just ran over me.
Yeah, real fun.

Just play offline :-[

 

[Sblargh]

It would be a terrible thing because playing online in human form in order to get the benefits that come along with it (summoning other human players to help you) carries with it the risk of being invaded at any time, which means you need to decide whether or not it's worth spending the humanity. Being invaded provides some of the most terrifying, unpredictable moments in the game and they are dynamic by nature. Defeating an invader is among the most triumphant and satisfying things you can do in any video game, specifically because you were attacked against your will on your own turf.

You can obtain the other benefits you described of the online without risking invasion by staying hollow


Just play offline :-[

Same answer as the guy above, I like the other features. And I only stay human in order to kindle the fire, invasion makes this requirement a pain. In dangeround, long areas, I even kindle the fire and suicide right after so I won't have to deal with invasion while trying to survive the level.

 

[Sullichin]

I enjoy playing online. I love reading the messages, checking bloodstains to be aware of dangers, and getting help from other players. Unless I'm missing something that will click with me later on, I'm not sure how having players agree to PvP would be a bad thing.

Getting invaded when you really don't want to can be annoying, but it's part of the charm of this game to me. Summoning help for a boss without the threat of invasion just wouldn't be the same. Summoning phantoms can make the game exceedingly easy, and being open for invasion balances that out some.
Playing as a darkwraith would suck if the other player had to accept the invasion. There's already the red soapstone for consensual PVP. You can enjoy all of the other online features you mentioned except for getting help from others by just remaining hollow. Getting help/being human is a double edged sword, and I think that makes sense.

I can see how getting invaded your first time through the burg at a low level can sour you on the experience. But just treat it like any other death and then just stay hollow. It's not like you're swimming in humanity at that point, the only real reason to spend one is to kindle a bonfire. Co-opping Taurus the first time through is cheating yourself out of gaining experience with the game anyway.

 

[SiegfriedFM]

I agree. You're gank bait in Undead Burg so better to just kill off the taurus and move on. Once you've cleared up the parish and only need to run to the boss, then you may go human but you're pretty vulnerable there as well. After that, there are so many ways to either improve or go hide that it's not much of an issue anymore. You also lose the low level invaders.

 

[Dresden]

I agree and I agree since Demons' Souls. Being invaded is not fun. You should not have to deal with some asshole in a single player game. I was going from the first bonfire on Undead Burg (the first bonfire after firelink shrine, I was maybe SL 3 or 4) to the first boss and someone who clearly went out of his way to get the better gear possible without killing the boss in the area went and just ran over me.
Yeah, real fun.

If you choose to sign in and play online, it's no longer a single player game.

 

[CountAntonius]

Wow, he looks amazing. When you say PvP build, what does that mean? I know its Player VS Player, but what's special about him? How you leveled him up?

Yeah started from scratch and put stats in the right places for that build. Buffing the estoc and keeping my movement speed and stamina high as I could. I could have gone with havels ring and threw some giants armor on but eh.

 

[KennyLinder]

Yeah started from scratch and put stats in the right places for that build. Buffing the estoc and keeping my movement speed and stamina high as I could. I could have gone with havels ring and threw some giants armor on but eh.

Estus flask do you mean? Also, what armour has he got? Its ace.

 

[Astra]

So yeah, while I wuv the gameplay in Dark, does the story ever become even a little more pronounced. I know it's up to alot of interpretation but still...

I dunno, at this point, while I dig the gameplay in Dark, I preferred the world/plot of Demon's alot more. I mean, I couldn't even tell you the basic plot of Dark without having to look it up =(

I agree there. I enjoyed the lore of Demon's Souls much more than Dark Souls. I thought it was so much more interesting, and had much better characters. I enjoy the aesthetics and design of Dark's world much more, though.

I love invading. I lose often, but thats how you learn. But when I do lose, its mostly 3v1s. I dont mind most of the time, but when they camp and the newbie of the bunch points down when you die.... THAT PISSES ME OFF! Fuck right off, you didn't do shit motherfucker.

If I lose, I expect a bow, and I try to do it all the time, but people are assholes.... fuck being nice....


Also, feel free to add me Sajjaja.

I suck at PvP, myself, but still have fun with it.
I agree about people who use rude gestures when you die. I was in Blighttown and I got invaded. While I was circling the dude, one of the enemies got me from behind and killed me, and he stands there using that "well what is it!?" gesture. Fucking asshole didn't even kill me, and would have died to me, as I had him down to a fraction of HP. Douchebag.

 

[Derrick01]

I like when someone invades me that isn't completely overpowered and I have a chance at killing them but I gave up on anything that involved me invading them. Every time I do I get camped and it's usually more than 1 so I have no patience to be dying like that all of the time.

Also I can't get over how ridiculously easy Pinwheel was for that point of the game. I keep asking myself "did I really kill him in 4-5 hits?".

 

[Astra]

Pinwheel was so easy. A few shots from my Fireball, and he was dead. Also so slow, and easy to evade. Didn't take a single hit.

 

[Sullichin]

Well, Pinwheel is available right from the start of the game. It's possible to rush the catacombs, forge a fire weapon, and get the right of kindling before tackling the other bosses (you'll have to buy titanite shards from andre though). Even doing this though you'll probably have more trouble getting through the catacombs than with the pinwheel fight itself. It's too bad, that fight has good music. But I tend to make the catacombs an early priority now, instead of doing it along with ToTG like I used to, so I can make fire/chaos weapons.