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The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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Just got home, anything new or is the click sticks the only news item for today?

Since that particular news bit:

#370: updated Wii U gun-shell design ← with bottom front trigger apparently moved to immediately below the analog stick

#467: GameStop internal computer system lists Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 for Wii U

#537: Block Diagram of Wii U Innards? (link to patent at #547) ← analyses at #558, #559

#578: Nintendo seems to be going forward with efforts to retain the "Wii U" name.

#584: Patent diagram for a mini-sized Wii U controller

#643: Text details of Wii U block diagram explaining connections between blocks

#751: Techdroid claims a Star Fox Retro reveal.

#775: Game Informer Interviews EA regarding Wii U; EA promises to "do everything we can to deliver an experience that will take advantage of the hardware"

#809: Patent confirmation that the little black window coming out the top of the DRC is an *IR emitter* (like on a universal remote), not an IR camera (like on a Wii Remote)
 
"Wii U's thumb sticks are clickable."

Where did this come from?

#232: John Harker (vouched for in #284, #285, #286, #289, et al), "the thumb sticks are clickable" ← speculation follows regarding the possibility of it being analog-"click", whether the flat nature of the Wii U analogs would make it feel less awkward, etc..

Semi-offtopic: Holy hell, has any thread on here ever gone to a version 5?

Any sports thread. Also WrassleGAF. Lots of TV stuff.
 

BurntPork

Banned
#232: John Harker (vouched for in #284, #285, #286, #289, et al), "the thumb sticks are clickable" ← speculation follows regarding the possibility of it being analog-"click", whether the flat nature of the Wii U analogs would make it feel less awkward, etc..



Any sports thread. Also WrassleGAF. Lots of TV stuff.

But in less than a year!?!

*whines about GN ban*
 
But, unlike 'Chartz, which has a blanket ban for being full of shit, Go Nintendo isn't strictly banned from discussion or sourcing.

Yeah, I will fully admit that GN is a dog-and-pony show. It's just me 99% of the time, scouring the internet for any bit of Nintendo news/discussion/rumor I can find. I'm just some guy that likes Nintendo. I enjoy the real/fake/rumor/discussions. I completely understand that my GN posting methods aren't everyone's cup of tea.

With that said, I'll never intentionally lie to readers or lead them down a path I know is false. I'm also not saying you said that, as I don't think you did at all. Just wanted to make that clear.

If anyone has ever felt that way, I truly apologize. Even after all these years running GN, I am definitely still a rube. Too gullible and trustworthy. That's part of who I am, though. It obviously 'shines' through on GN!

Thanks for putting time into that explanation, EatChildren.
 
Is this similar to the 3DS companion at the louvre in France but they are going to do it for the Wii U? Adding AR to museums? now that would be cool.

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EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
If anyone has ever felt that way, I truly apologize. Even after all these years running GN, I am definitely still a rube. Too gullible and trustworthy. That's part of who I am, though. It obviously 'shines' through on GN!

Go Nintendo's hook is as it's always been: all things Nintendo. If you didn't post the rumours and gossip you'd probably have people grumble and lose interest. Someone has to do it, people enjoy reading it, and thus that someone is you. There's nothing really to apologise for, as the inaccuracies are usually not your fault, but the source.

Like, you sourcing IdeaMan's posts for news. That's fine, and expected of your website, and the readers love it. But we cant have someone then go and make a thread off your report. Hence the ban!

Glad I could clarify though. Unlike 'Chartz, I feel the Go Nintendo ban has caused a bit of confusion.
 

Linkhero1

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Since that particular news bit:

The more I think about it the more plausible it is that Retro is working on a Starfox game. If it has the following I will not complain if Retro is making it.

  • Single Player Story Mode
  • Online 16 Player Battles
  • Online Ranking Up Similar to CoD, but it doesn't add anything to the game. It's only a rank
  • Customiziable Arwings (Weapons, Design, etc)
  • Mission Mode similar to Mario Kart DS

Not sure what else to be honest, but this would be amazing if done right. It can potentially be a huge multiplayer hit for the Wii U.
 
Fifth Nintendo Wii U thread with almost no new info. If this keeps up we will reach Thread ten right before E3 :p

It's only day one and we have insider confirmation of analog slider click, Black Ops 2 on Gamestop internal lists, and a patent of the system's guts to dissect, not too shabby IMHO.
 

Gahiggidy

My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Back on the topic of clicky slide pads...

I sure hope they also redesign the pads to be extra sturdy. I think it would help to make them a good 1/4-1/3 inch thick and having a base layer of polished metal under the rubber grip would help give them a rock solid feel. Also, a satisfying feeling "thud" to the mechanism instead of the chintzy "click" you get with click-sticks would be very welcome. We don't want this to feel anything like a mouse click.
 

Portugeezer

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I shall explain this as I did in the last thread, and I'm pretty sure the thread before that.

Go Nintendo has a history of posting rumours. Lots of rumours. And yes, in almost every case, they mark rumour reports as just that. The problem is the sourcing of the rumours. Rumours can often be sourced back to a single forum post and/or internet gossip.

Though we encourage new threads for new news, including rumour discussion, we do not support the forum getting clogged up with every single rumour posted on every single website, especially those lacking credibility and proper sourcing. It's one thing to make a thread based on a rumour sourced back to multiple gaming websites with known connections to the industry, and the rumour itself being credible and interesting. It's another thing entirely to make a thread because some guy said some shit on some forum and we believe him just 'because'.

No bullshit. Just the way I like it.
 

Linkhero1

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There's almost zero chance that it is the actual next Xbox. An initial devkit, maybe, but not the final console.

MS has already stated publicly several times that they're not introducing it at E3.

Yeah but it's MS. I'm pretty sure if they have something to show, even if it's a trailer they'll show it just to try and make sure Nintendo doesn't get all the attention. Not that I care. Personally I want to see what they have to offer.

Honestly, whether its MS or Sony, I can't see them BOTH ignoring the fact that Nintendo is releasing a new console that WILL be direct competition with their "core" gamer market. I think it almost forces them in a way.

This is what I'm thinking as well. We'll see. I'm not too sure what's going on with Sony, but I've been hearing a lot of rumors about the Xbox 3 lately.
 
Like, you sourcing IdeaMan's posts for news. That's fine, and expected of your website, and the readers love it. But we cant have someone then go and make a thread off your report. Hence the ban!

Ha, even I can admit that having every site appear as GN does would make the internet a very confusing place.

The best part about all of this? Both NeoGAF and GN signed with a new ad rep...and it's the same company! Funny how those things work out. I honestly had no idea until about a week ago.
 

HylianTom

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This is what I'm thinking as well. We'll see. I'm not too sure what's going on with Sony, but I've been hearing a lot of rumors about the Xbox 3 lately.
Agree. No way in hell is Microsoft going to allow Nintendo to essentially have E3 to itself. I mean, Halo 4, CoD, and Kinect? Sure, those are nice.. but they're not "New Console-level Nice."

The only thing that can compete with new hardware is new hardware.
 

BD1

Banned
Yeah, I will fully admit that GN is a dog-and-pony show. It's just me 99% of the time, scouring the internet for any bit of Nintendo news/discussion/rumor I can find. I'm just some guy that likes Nintendo. I enjoy the real/fake/rumor/discussions. I completely understand that my GN posting methods aren't everyone's cup of tea.

With that said, I'll never intentionally lie to readers or lead them down a path I know is false. I'm also not saying you said that, as I don't think you did at all. Just wanted to make that clear.

If anyone has ever felt that way, I truly apologize. Even after all these years running GN, I am definitely still a rube. Too gullible and trustworthy. That's part of who I am, though. It obviously 'shines' through on GN!

Thanks for putting time into that explanation, EatChildren.

I love GoN what it is
 

Linkhero1

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Agree. No way in hell is Microsoft going to allow Nintendo to essentially have E3 to itself. I mean, Halo 4, CoD, and Kinect? Sure, those are nice.. but they're not "New Console-level Nice."

The only thing that can compete with new hardware is new hardware.

Pretty much. MS's last few E3s have been generally week in my opinion. If they show their new console in some form, even if it's just a trailer, that would be enough to get some attention away from the Wii U.

Also I'm pretty sure we'll see BLOps 2 at Nintendo's conference too. I don't think they're going to want to not show it.
 

Discomurf

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Rawmeat, I've been checking your site daily for years so thank you for doing what you do! I used to check IGN daily as well, but that site went to total crap from that immature and untalented kids they brought in after Matt and Bozon left... I guess I'm a crotchety old gamer.
 
Agree. No way in hell is Microsoft going to allow Nintendo to essentially have E3 to itself. I mean, Halo 4, CoD, and Kinect? Sure, those are nice.. but they're not "New Console-level Nice."

The only thing that can compete with new hardware is new hardware.

The most likely thing to do is show off the regular games and, at the end, go "Before you leave… we heard that one of our competitors are showing off a new system that may be slightly faster than the current generation. Well, something's coming from the world of Xbox in 2013, and the best part is, you'll get all the amazing hardcore games you've been used to and the unparalleled experiences of Kinect and Xbox Live. Take a look… *cues lots of target render videos*".
 

lednerg

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I could see Retro helping with a StarFox game, but not as being the lead developers. Now more than ever, Nintendo needs them to be focused on something geared toward the Western demographic. They need a guaranteed exclusive that gets the attention of PS3/360 gamers who said Wii wasn't for them. StarFox is something that any number of their 1st/2nd parties could tackle - the same can't be said for a game that's aimed at the West.

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Yeah, like Mario Kart 7.
Yup.
 

Kerub

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I could see Retro helping with a StarFox game, but not as being the lead developers. Now more than ever, Nintendo needs them to be focused on something geared toward the Western demographic. They need a guaranteed exclusive that gets the attention of PS3/360 gamers who said Wii wasn't for them. StarFox is something that any number of their 1st/2nd parties could tackle - the same can't be said for a game that's aimed at the West.

Yeah, like Mario Kart 7.
 

Linkhero1

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I could see Retro helping with a StarFox game, but not as being the lead developers. Now more than ever, Nintendo needs them to be focused on something geared toward the Western demographic. They need a guaranteed exclusive that gets the attention of PS3/360 gamers who said Wii wasn't for them. StarFox is something that any number of their 1st/2nd parties could tackle - the same can't be said for a game that's aimed at the West.

Don't set yourself up for disappointment. We should just assume it's Star Fox Adventures 2 just to be safe. Personally, I wouldn't mind it, but I know a lot of people will go ape shit if it turns out to be true.

If it has a good single player campaign and good online multiplayer fun, I say bring it on.
 
I shall explain this as I did in the last thread, and I'm pretty sure the thread before that.

Go Nintendo has a history of posting rumours. Lots of rumours. And yes, in almost every case, they mark rumour reports as just that. The problem is the sourcing of the rumours. Rumours can often be sourced back to a single forum post and/or internet gossip.

Though we encourage new threads for new news, including rumour discussion, we do not support the forum getting clogged up with every single rumour posted on every single website, especially those lacking credibility and proper sourcing. It's one thing to make a thread based on a rumour sourced back to multiple gaming websites with known connections to the industry, and the rumour itself being credible and interesting. It's another thing entirely to make a thread because some guy said some shit on some forum and we believe him just 'because'.

Furthermore, Go Nintendo has, in the past, erroneously reported rumours and information, adding inaccurate conjecture to reports that further complicates the matter. We end up with people not only posting threads based on dumb rumours from unreliable nonsense sources, but ones that could have been easily discredited prior to posting. Or, in worst case examples, the report itself misinterprets the rumour, leading to completely inaccurate 'news'.

This shouldn't be taken as an attack against Go Nintendo. RawMeatCowboy posts here, and is welcome to. His website is an excellent source for all things related to Nintendo. But because of clashes between Go Nintendo reports and GAF's expectations of rumour and news validity, the website was banned. We don't allow 'Chartz for slightly similar inaccuracy reasons.

But, unlike 'Chartz, which has a blanket ban for being full of shit, Go Nintendo isn't strictly banned from discussion or sourcing. You can source back to Go Nintendo, even though the URL will be blanked out. You can discuss news and rumours there. That's fine. We simply express caution in doing so, for the above reasons. This is especially true for making threads. If you make a thread sourced back to Go Nintendo, and the information is reliable and trustwrothy, then fine. If you link to a stupid, dumb rumour with poor sourcing and obvious inaccuracies, then you'll probably get a ban.

Post smart, stay safe. This has been a NeoGAF Nintendo public service announcement.

Just wanted to say what a great read this was and an example of professional modding: dealing with a sensitive topic in a firm yet friendly and diplomatic matter all while being informative and creating an atmosphere where members don't have to feel scared just to ask reasonable questions. theaterhandclap.gif
 

Glass Joe

Member
Back on the topic of clicky slide pads...

I sure hope they also redesign the pads to be extra sturdy. I think it would help to make them a good 1/4-1/3 inch thick and having a base layer of polished metal under the rubber grip would help give them a rock solid feel. Also, a satisfying feeling "thud" to the mechanism instead of the chintzy "click" you get with click-sticks would be very welcome. We don't want this to feel anything like a mouse click.

Yeah, Nintendo giving into pressure to add a feature half-heartedly that breaks easy would be pretty worst case scenario. I never had any troubles with my 360 pads, but others have said the click sticks are delicate. Considering the likely cost of a replacement, it would almost make more sense if you sent a tablet in for repair than expect to buy a $100+ one from a Walmart.

Also, something mini off-topic that's worried me: How long lasting are the 3DS slide pads? I know I've had an analog stick or 3 wear out, so that's always in the back of my mind. I try not to abuse it but I really don't know how durable it is.
 

MYE

Member
I was wondering what the boxart of Wii U games will look like, so i started messing around in Photoshop

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^ Smaller and thicker than your traditional DVD case, so it stands out. And the top banner is supposed to be somewhat shiny/reflective.

Not my best work but probably a reasonable prediction seeing as the simplistic, white motif is something they want to carry on to next gen.


EDIT:

The Wii U logo is a bitch to frame :\
 

Linkhero1

Member
I was wondering what the boxart of Wii U games will look like, so i started messing around in Photoshop

1e1c812b2ee6865b99a85f1052742d8f.jpg


^ Smaller and thicker than your traditional DVD case, so it stands out. And the top banner is supposed to be somewhat shiny/reflective.

Not my best work but probably a reasonable prediction seeing as the simplistic, white motif is something they want to carry on to next gen.

That looks amazing. Good job.

If Nintendo has a chance to pull of a Pokemon MMO, now's the time.
 
Again, thank you to all for the kind words and comments. With that said, I feel bad that this discussion infiltrated this thread. If you have anything you want to say to me, feel free to email me at my GN email or shoot me a PM here. Thanks guys!
 

Nilaul

Member
I was wondering what the boxart of Wii U games will look like, so i started messing around in Photoshop

1e1c812b2ee6865b99a85f1052742d8f.jpg


^ Smaller and thicker than your traditional DVD case, so it stands out. And the top banner is supposed to be somewhat shiny/reflective.

Not my best work but probably a reasonable prediction seeing as the simplistic, white motif is something they want to carry on to next gen.


EDIT:

The Wii U logo is a bitch to frame :\

It that MMO was true... well.. it would game over for everyone else in the industry; 4ever. Why cant just Nintendo do it? Are they profit blind?
 
Again, thank you to all for the kind words and comments. With that said, I feel bad that this discussion infiltrated this thread. If you have anything you want to say to me, feel free to email me at my GN email or shoot me a PM here. Thanks guys!

I need to stop by your site more often, been awhile. Keep up your Nintendo passion. :)
 

Antioch

Member
Just saw the Retro Starfox rumor, can't say I believe the rumor specifically but I think if Nintendo wants Retro to revive another series and revitalize it, Starfox would probably be first in line. I personally wish for them to be working on one of two games right now, Metroid Prime 4 or a new IP that serves as a spiritual successor to the Prime games, which would also allow their art team to go nuts. I wouldn't mind a big Starfox game though.
 
I was wondering what the boxart of Wii U games will look like, so i started messing around in Photoshop

1e1c812b2ee6865b99a85f1052742d8f.jpg


^ Smaller and thicker than your traditional DVD case, so it stands out. And the top banner is supposed to be somewhat shiny/reflective.

Not my best work but probably a reasonable prediction seeing as the simplistic, white motif is something they want to carry on to next gen.


EDIT:

The Wii U logo is a bitch to frame :
Wouldn't a pokemon mmo boxart have pokemon from every gen not just the 2nd? :p
 
Just wanted to say what a great read this was and an example of professional modding: dealing with a sensitive topic in a firm yet friendly and diplomatic matter all while being informative and creating an atmosphere where members don't have to feel scared just to ask reasonable questions. theaterhandclap.gif

Agreed. Keep doing what you do RMC.
 

HylianTom

Banned
The most likely thing to do is show off the regular games and, at the end, go "Before you leave… we heard that one of our competitors are showing off a new system that may be slightly faster than the current generation. Well, something's coming from the world of Xbox in 2013, and the best part is, you'll get all the amazing hardcore games you've been used to and the unparalleled experiences of Kinect and Xbox Live. Take a look… *cues lots of target render videos*".

Damn. That sounds accurate enough to be ripped straight from their script. And the level of reveal seems about right for what I'm expecting - just enough to steal some thunder, and just enough so that the mediafolk have comparison fodder.

(and a side note: I think RMC might've overestimated how much people dislike his site! haha!)
 

TunaLover

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It that MMO was true... well.. it would game over for everyone else in the industry; 4ever. Why cant just Nintendo do it? Are they profit blind?
You know that a title like that is pretty dangerous, it could force me to enter into MMO addiction in a blink.
 

BurntPork

Banned
Could someone try doing a mock-up Wii U logo with the "U" being the same color, font, and font size as the "Wii" instead of it being a tacked-on image? I want to see if it looks better.
 

antonz

Member
Found a new change right away.

DRC now has Vibration unit based on updated patent.

Figure 10 in Old Patent and updated to be Figure 14 in new one
 
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