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Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS (Teaser site live)

Larsen B

Member
Just when it seemed like all the 3DS Atlus RPGs I'd have wanted were going to come out in Europe, now they announce this.

Strange Journey never got an EU release and I don't think this one will either, which means now I have to reconsider buying a American 3DS.

I don't think any games company has cost me as much money as Atlus.
 
Well this is interesting. Game takes place in a post apocalyptic Tokyo and a midevil Europe? Maybe you flip back and forth in time? Something happens in the past which affects the present? Either way this could offer some diversity in environments and gameplay.
 

duckroll

Member
Well this is interesting. Game takes place in a post apocalyptic Tokyo and a midevil Europe? Maybe you flip back and forth in time? Something happens in the past which affects the present? Either way this could offer some diversity in environments and gameplay.

They both look like Tokyo to me.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
Put a little zoom on it and those medieval castley looking things appear to be Skyscrapers.

Definitely a medieval style wall around the city.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
i don't care if this is on the atari 2600, just hook it up to my veeiiiinssss


ah, no bright solid colors. gtfo persona!!! yes!

Srsly. I hope the color palette is just black with a couple neon accents. Or basically the same thing as Nocturne, because that was perfect.
 

jcm

Member
Then I was confused by your original post; it sounds like you *are* advocating that they should go multiplatform or stick to a single platform for their entire output after all, rather than simply a move for the benefit of the RPG fanbase alone. Sorry!

It was the Tales comment that threw me, because you seemed to be equating the plans for a company that worked on a variety of different projects to the plans for a single RPG franchise. Wouldn't it be more correct to have referred to 'Namco' there, not 'Tales'?

Oh, come on. You don't think Catherine, Persona 2, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 4 Arena, and Megaten 4 are targeted at the same fanbase? That's 4 platforms you need to own.
 

ultron87

Member
Put a little zoom on it and those medieval castley looking things appear to be Skyscrapers.

Definitely a medieval style wall around the city.

The surrounding bare countryside would be pretty weird to have around a modern walled city. Though I can definitely see that that either looks like skyscrapers or big medieval keeps.
 

duckroll

Member
Oh, come on. You don't think Catherine, Persona 2, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 4 Arena, and Megaten 4 are targeted at the same fanbase? That's 4 platforms you need to own.

I'm fairly confident in saying that in Japan at least, SMT4 is definitely not targeted at the same fanbase as modern Persona and Catherine. That just leaves 2 systems. One console, one portable.
 
The surrounding bare countryside would be pretty weird to have around a modern walled city. Though I can definitely see that that either looks like skyscrapers or big medieval keeps.

That's what I'm seeing. Castle towers and walls. I don't see Shinjuku towers at all. I could be wrong. I'd like to be wrong.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
I'm fairly confident in saying that in Japan at least, SMT4 is definitely not targeted at the same fanbase as modern Persona and Catherine. That just leaves 2 systems. One console, one portable.

They don't really hit the same market in the states either. Tons of people come asking around about other SMT titles when they are released wanting to know how they measure up to P3/P4. Hell it even happened when P1P came out.
 
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Deleted member 20920

Unconfirmed Member
Put a little zoom on it and those medieval castley looking things appear to be Skyscrapers.

Definitely a medieval style wall around the city.

Maybe Tokyo gets teleported to the past. Or some alternate medieval world.
 

mclem

Member
I'm pretty sure the first image is also Tokyo. Look within the walled city and you'll see skyscrapers. Definitely post-apocalypse.

I was viewing it as particularly blocky keeps, but they could easily be skyscrapers, you're right.

The church in the foreground is still a bit on the odd side, though.
 

duckroll

Member
I was viewing it as particularly blocky keeps, but they could easily be skyscrapers, you're right.

The church in the foreground is still a bit on the odd side, though.

Well, it looks like the walls and the church were probably built in the new era, which has reduced to nature + stone buildings, etc. What is possible is that what was left of the old Tokyo is walled up and protected as a fortress of a particular faction?
 
I'm curious about what battle system they'll use. Since EO4 looks like more of the same I kind of wish Daisuke Kanada was directing this so we could get a new Press Turn.

NEW PRESS TURN. It is the finest turn-based combat on earth, yet has only been used three times!

Sadly, Atlus' platform of choice means that I will most likely skip this iteration of my beloved RPG series.

It's not that I don't enjoy playing handhelds. It's that when I game, it's gonna be at home - on my rig, or on my HDTV. When I leave my home, it's with the intention of doing something, like hanging out with friends, going bowling, hitting up a university club, working a job, etc. I don't vacation enough to make it worth bus or plane rides.

Why would I want to squint at two tiny screens when there are plenty of other games that meet my gaming desires? It still makes me extremely sad, as this is my all-time favorite RPG series.

Hi, this generation happened. And it'll keep happening. Blame others for not buying HD JRPGs.

Well, it looks like the walls and the church were probably built in the new era, which has reduced to nature + stone buildings, etc. What is possible is that what was left of the old Tokyo is walled up and protected as a fortress of a particular faction?

Messian church? It does look "traditional".

GAWDDAYUM, my mind's whirling with speculation!
 

duckroll

Member
I think one big possibility is that SMT4 might actually take place -after- SMT3, just like SMT2 took place after SMT1. Remember how most of the endings of SMT3 ended...
 
Interesting.. Looks like another post apocalypse scenario, but the medieval trappings in the first pic lend the whole affair a different flavor. Hope some new media is shared soon
 

guit3457

Member
Last image is the famous Ginza crossroad:

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Eusis

Member
I think one big possibility is that SMT4 might actually take place -after- SMT3, just like SMT2 took place after SMT1. Remember how most of the endings of SMT3 ended...
I wonder, they might have decided to explore different angles for an apocalypse with each game, with 1 (and a lesser extent 2) being about living in the near-immediate aftermath, 3 and Strange Journey exploring fully supernatural ones in different ways, and this going back to SMT1/2's more traditional apocalypse BUT fast forwarding several hundred years. Reminds me of a Dying Earth setting vaguely (which would be a setting I'd REALLY like to see explored with an RPG), but if that's the case then I don't think it's inherently continuing off of an SMT3 ending. Then again I guess the Yosuga reason could result in a rebuilt world immediately nuking itself.

Bonus: If it's exploring the near future after civilization's been wrecked and has rebuilt back to a medieval level, it comes off as possibly better exploring the idea than ANOTHER recent Atlus game ultimately did, to be specific
Etrian Odyssey.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
I just hope the success of Persona 3/4 doesn't cause Atlus to wimp out with this game. I want a dark, unhappy RPG. I want Matador 2.0. I want more bosses who wear people's faces.

If they try and make it a little more lighthearted or try to appeal to the West, now that they've found success here... well, that's going to be a huge disappointment.
 

Cactus

Banned
I just hope the success of Persona 3/4 doesn't cause Atlus to wimp out with this game. I want a dark, unhappy RPG. I want Matador 2.0. I want more bosses who wear people's faces.

If they try and make it a little more lighthearted or try to appeal to the West, now that they've found success here... well, that's going to be a huge disappointment.

Considering how dark Strange Journey was, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
 

Teknoman

Member
Sadly, Atlus' platform of choice means that I will most likely skip this iteration of my beloved RPG series.

It's not that I don't enjoy playing handhelds. It's that when I game, it's gonna be at home - on my rig, or on my HDTV. When I leave my home, it's with the intention of doing something, like hanging out with friends, going bowling, hitting up a university club, working a job, etc. I don't vacation enough to make it worth bus or plane rides.

Why would I want to squint at two tiny screens when there are plenty of other games that meet my gaming desires? It still makes me extremely sad, as this is my all-time favorite RPG series.

To be fair, 3DS screens really arent that tiny, and you could still chill in your favorite chair at home with a handheld.

I just hope the success of Persona 3/4 doesn't cause Atlus to wimp out with this game. I want a dark, unhappy RPG. I want Matador 2.0. I want more bosses who wear people's faces.

If they try and make it a little more lighthearted or try to appeal to the West, now that they've found success here... well, that's going to be a huge disappointment.

I'm sure they wont, especially since the Persona series was never that dark to begin with. I will say SMT 1's home music is unusually cheery.
 

Clott

Member
One thing that always worries me when I see one huge castle as part of the promo, I have a loud siren that goes off in my head that tell me" Dungeon Crawler, STAY AWAY".

I hope I am wrong tho.
 
I just hope the success of Persona 3/4 doesn't cause Atlus to wimp out with this game. I want a dark, unhappy RPG. I want Matador 2.0. I want more bosses who wear people's faces.

If they try and make it a little more lighthearted or try to appeal to the West, now that they've found success here... well, that's going to be a huge disappointment.

I doubt it. If Atlus had big ambitions to follow up on the success of Persona 3/4 we would probably have a Persona 5 right now instead of re-releases and a fighter spin-off.
 
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