So why does everyone always talk about the story of DDS?
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Shin Megami Tensei 4 announced for 3DS (Teaser site live)
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So why does everyone always talk about the story of DDS?
Or if the world was "remade" into a new form, with only Tokyo city itself being retained!
I loved Nocturne, but I'm more of a Persona 3/4 guy.
Still, since I already have a 3DS, I shall anticipate this with astounding vigour.
Well, they are making a Persona 5, and it'll probably be on HD consoles (not sure if that's confirmed). SMT4, meanwhile, is on a handheld. Mix that together with all the Persona re-releases and the fighter, and I think it's pretty clear what they see as their central SMT series. I'm actually kind of glad, though. With the Persona franchise pretty much covered for the near future, they're far less likely to succumb to commercial pressures to bring SMT4 closer to the experience that P3/P4 already offer. With that in mind, putting the game on the 3DS probably helps too, given the cheaper development costs.
Still, since I already have a 3DS, I shall anticipate this with astounding vigour.
Well, they are making a Persona 5, and it'll probably be on HD consoles (not sure if that's confirmed). SMT4, meanwhile, is on a handheld. Mix that together with all the Persona re-releases and the fighter, and I think it's pretty clear what they see as their central SMT series. I'm actually kind of glad, though. With the Persona franchise pretty much covered for the near future, they're far less likely to succumb to commercial pressures to bring SMT4 closer to the experience that P3/P4 already offer. With that in mind, putting the game on the 3DS probably helps too, given the cheaper development costs.
BlazingDarkness
Member
DDS is another SMT spinoff with a heavier focus on story, it's different to mainline SMT games
TurnipFritters
Member
I could be down for Fantasy RPG People Exploring The Demon-Infested Ruins of Tokyo.
Those lakes DO suspiciously look like craters though. Though I guess in remaking the world all the other cities/settlements left behind craters or something that gradually filled up, whatever.
NoirVisage
Banned
sensitive bunch. SJ was a joke to me, a diversion, i was waiting for the true successor to one of my favorite PS2 games. instead the creatures chose to follow the money rather than create a grand spectacle in HD. thats their right, just like its my right to bail, i don't do handhelds.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
As long as they don't use the city naming system from Evangelion.
They should name stuff after the tribes of Israel instead. Oh wait, that was Xenosaga. My bad!
Huh, well there was something I didn't catch.
Anyway, my vote goes to Chinese dynasties.
iamaustrian
Member
wow
what a pleasant surprise. still waiting for the other 2 to appear in EU.
japanese gamers will probably go nuts over this news
truely <3 my 3DS
what a pleasant surprise. still waiting for the other 2 to appear in EU.
japanese gamers will probably go nuts over this news
truely <3 my 3DS
cultureculture
Member
I've been waiting for something like this ever since the original 3DS announcement in 2010, when SMT and Etrian Odyssey were listed as possible Atlus releases. I think the Wi-Fi stuff modern handhelds like 3DS and Vita have is a perfect match for classic SMT, given that in the original Shin Megami Tensei, you played a bloke who got the devil summoning program over the internet and ran it off a portable computer... I think it has potential to tie in nicely. I've been looking forward to something like that since I was trading and looking up demon codes for Strange Journey.
XANDER CAGE
Member
This argument doesn't really make much sense. Wasn't SMT2 for Famicom? The series has always hopped between platforms. And of course the "creatures" go where the money is. Why do you think Nocturne was on PS2 in the first place?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Platforms "mainline" MT games have been on:
Famicom -> Famicom -> (Super Famicom / PC-Engine / Mega CD) -> Super Famicom -> PS2 -> DS -> 3DS
Platforms "spinoff" (Persona, Devil Summoner, etc) or remake games have been on:
Famicom, Super Famicom, Playstation, PS2, Saturn, PSP, Windows, PS Vita, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Xbox, DS, 3DS.
Stop platform hopping!!!!
Femmeworth
Banned
Very ominous teaser.
Try SMT Imagine Online (a Free2Play MMORPG) if you cannot wait.
wastedyears
Member
Awesome!!! My favorite game is finally getting a sequel. I was hoping it would be on a console, but portable SMT is better than no SMT.
The Incarnation
Member
Considering the difference between the first two games and 3, and then that to Strange Journey I'm not getting my hopes up about this game.
If this game is more like the latter in design, it probably won't see Europe for a long long while if at all. A lot could depend on how well Devil Survivor 2 sells when it finally gets here.
Also wondering if they're going to be reusing assets from Devil Survivor 2, personally don't see Atlus designing monsters they already have 3/DS assets for from the ground up. If it was coming to the Vita then using Ps2/Psp assets wouldn't be much of an issue.
If this game is more like the latter in design, it probably won't see Europe for a long long while if at all. A lot could depend on how well Devil Survivor 2 sells when it finally gets here.
Also wondering if they're going to be reusing assets from Devil Survivor 2, personally don't see Atlus designing monsters they already have 3/DS assets for from the ground up. If it was coming to the Vita then using Ps2/Psp assets wouldn't be much of an issue.
Absoludacrous
Member
They can use PS2 assets on the 3DS, so that's the most likely candidate.
That statement can get you banned. I take it you have not played RE:Revelations or Kid Icarus: Uprising?
I can't follow your reasoning. Why exactly do you think that they couldn't re-use PS2 assets on the 3DS?
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Funny you should mention lightheartedness appealing to the west; that was one of the big things they harped on in their ads for SMT3:
I also said back in the day that Megaten was the perfect gateway drug for WRPG fans to get into JRPGs due to the maturity level, agency, and holy triumvirate-derived battle systems. This holds true today, even with both subgenres taking on water lately.
I don't think there is any chance that SMT4 is going to end up being a "cheap" looking 2D game with 3D dungeons at all. Even on the DS with SJ, because it had the SMT name on it, Atlus made a big effort to have animated sprites for enemies in battle. Animated sprites which they didn't re-use in any other game ever again.
Considering how they've already decided that because the 3DS has a 3D feature they want to take advantage of that and have actual 3D models in EO4, there is no reason to think that they're not making SMT4 a full 3D game. It's about time anyway.
Considering how they've already decided that because the 3DS has a 3D feature they want to take advantage of that and have actual 3D models in EO4, there is no reason to think that they're not making SMT4 a full 3D game. It's about time anyway.
redfiend00
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Is this game going to be in First Person like Strange Journey?
Memento_Mori15
Member
Well, with this game and fire emblem, I'll finally wipe the dust off my 3DS(which I still need to send to Nintendo for repairs...).
NoirVisage
Banned
It makes perfect sense, i don't want to play a main entry SMT on a handheld, i'm surprised you can't fathom that.
TurnipFritters
Member
Even if it ends up being 2D sprites, I hope they're fully animated like in the DQ DSmakes.
We literally know nothing about it except for what's contained in the teaser images from the official website.
We literally know nothing about it except for what's contained in the teaser images from the official website.
redfiend00
Member
Ok i hope it's not
It's just something we have to get use to. Anything Japanese that not guaranteed to make a bunch of money is just getting released on the 3DS. Plain and simple. Lots of the same talk around here went on when DQIX was announced.
The only SMT game I can see getting a console release is Persona.
So it's official, SMT Strange Journey is not SMT4. Makes sense since it didn't get the 4 affix.
Also, what do you guys think, should I buy a 3DS now, or just wait when more info on this and soul hackers comes out. It's going to be obvious that his handheld generation Nintendo's got the lead.
I still have my old pink DS lite, and am on the fence if I should buy a 3DS.
Any good games on it now? RPG wise. (Already played Abyss on the ps2). And can I also play ds games on a 3DS?
thanks
Also, what do you guys think, should I buy a 3DS now, or just wait when more info on this and soul hackers comes out. It's going to be obvious that his handheld generation Nintendo's got the lead.
I still have my old pink DS lite, and am on the fence if I should buy a 3DS.
Any good games on it now? RPG wise. (Already played Abyss on the ps2). And can I also play ds games on a 3DS?
thanks
RyougaSaotome
Member
Nailed it, I think.
Also I was positively shocked that they never reused those animated sprites. I was expecting to see them pop up again in Devil Survivor 2 or even the 3DS enhanced port of DS.
For what it's worth, I thought SJ was a great looking DS game. The 3DS is a significantly more powerful beast (Revelations, Kid Icarus), and I'd be shocked if Atlus copped out on making this the game it could/should be.
Memento_Mori15
Member
Yup, I don't play it that much and I bought it at launch. Not that many games interest me. But once Fire Emblem gets localized, I'll probably use it more often.
@isual
Yes, you can play DS games.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
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XANDER CAGE
Member
Of course I can "fathom" it, I just don't really get why it's such a huge deal. It sucks that it's not on the platform you wanted/expected but you're being really dramatic about it.
You're missing a bunch of systems. There were two Game Gear games even, how weird is that?
Didn't they get reused in some GREE game, Devil Hunter Zero I think? Could be misremembering.
Also I'm not sure why people are wondering what platform Persona 5 is gonna be on. It's all but confirmed for PS360.
http://andriasang.com/comxue/persona_5_engine/
Pinko Marx
Banned
I just hope this game is more like Nocturne and less like Strange Journey.
we.are.the.armada
Member
Damn, I am so excited for this. I hope that this game is a first person dungeon crawler where you play outsiders that must deal with the sudden appearance of an apocalyptic Tokyo in their fantasy world.
The story is convoluted but is flawlessly executed toward the end where you come to terms with a conclusion that shatters the entire perspective carefully constructed all along. Even the use of 3D plays a part in pulling at the wool.
I don't get it either. But, I wonder what that 3DS Persona game is going to be - IIRC one unnamed title was listed.
The story is convoluted but is flawlessly executed toward the end where you come to terms with a conclusion that shatters the entire perspective carefully constructed all along. Even the use of 3D plays a part in pulling at the wool.
I don't get it either. But, I wonder what that 3DS Persona game is going to be - IIRC one unnamed title was listed.
No reason it couldn't be a port of a Persona game or even P5. I'd say it was probably a planned port of 3 or 4 and that it could still happen.
Absoludacrous
Member
People question Persona 5 because they look at the PS2 era and see how much mileage Atlus got out of those demon models. It makes even more sense in this era to reuse demons in that fashion, and we're so late in the cycle that Persona 5 would probably be the only game to use those resources (at best we'd get a second game of some kind given how late in the cycle P4 came out, but even that is a far cry from the 7 last gen).
Honestly my biggest hope is that they push P5 to next gen, and kickoff a brand new era of SMT goodness.
At the very least, if they are making P5 on 360/PS3, I hope they're creating those demon models with an eye to the next generation.
Honestly my biggest hope is that they push P5 to next gen, and kickoff a brand new era of SMT goodness.
At the very least, if they are making P5 on 360/PS3, I hope they're creating those demon models with an eye to the next generation.
Nah, SMT Strange Journey is indeed really SMT4. Simililarly, SMT IV is SMT5. QED!
All hell's going to break loose when we have to figure out what the hell's going on with SMT IX.
Paracelsus
Member
Their next generation is 3DS and maaaaaybe PSV/Wii U, they won't give a flying **** about PS4 and XBOX3.
Cancer killing gaming right here.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Never buy a platform until it has enough games RELEASED for you to bite the bullet. This is especially true for a single game.
All waiting will do is have you play the game you are looking forward to at the same time while all of the good games that came before that are cheaper. Also you still never know about this game. What if say the Wii U is a colossal success in Japan and Atlus moves it there? What if Index Holdings pulls the plug on the project? Or what if the game is released and just well sucks. Not trying to make heart jumps in this thread, but if last gen showed anything, never buy a console for games that aren't out yet.