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Legend of Korra Book 2 HYPE Thread (Book 1 & 2 Spoilers inside)

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ED Cantu

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Totally missed that. So stupid, she has control of it which she doesn't even earn and uses it for something trivial like a race. What are they even doing?

I don't understand, what do you guys want, a perfect Avatar that never makes mistakes? that would be so boring.

Korra is just a teenager, she's 17, if you give that kind of power to any normal teenager they will most likely abuse that power or be tempted to use it for their own benefit.
Mastering the Avatar state doesn't magically makes the Avatar an adult or make their minds to be more mature.

Take Kuruk for example, most of the time he used his powers to impress ladies, pick fights and have fun and he was older than Korra, and Korra unlike Aang is not a monk, Aang being raised by monks made him grow spiritually and mature faster, he was the most mature person of his group.

Like Satchwar already said, the season will probably be about humbling her spirit-wise, she already got scolded by Tenzin for that, maybe later in the story she will lose the Avatar state like Aang and that will make her appreciate it more and use it responsibly.

To me it seems some of you expect the Avatar to be a perfect being or at least be another Aang, which again, would be boring and unrealistic.
 
can't wait tll season 2 is delayed to 2014.

anyway, anyone have a pic of mako's new outfit? didn't think he'd be cop but I guess he's gotta make that money.
 

Poyunch

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Koh better put Korra in her place. The Water Tribe Avatars we know about all suck. Must be their cockiness controlling the best element.
 

Artemisia

Banned
oh lord I am so ready

I didn't even know we were going to get new info. Now I have something to hold my excitement over for a little longer.
 

Jacob

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I don't understand, what do you guys want, a perfect Avatar that never makes mistakes? that would be so boring.

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Like Satchwar already said, the season will probably be about humbling her spirit-wise, she already got scolded by Tenzin for that, maybe later in the story she will lose the Avatar state like Aang and that will make her appreciate it more and use it responsibly.

To me it seems some of you expect the Avatar to be a perfect being or at least be another Aang, which again, would be boring and unrealistic.

I'd rather see an Avatar who isn't a self-centered dumbass. I actually don't mind Korra having started off that way in Book 1. Not that she was a total dumbass, but well, she was a teenager. And that's okay! But she's had an entire season of "character development" now and she should have grown up. She's supposedly a fully realized avatar. But at the end of season one she's still self-centered, still impulsive, and still not all that bright. I was disappointed by that in the finale. I really hope that she grows up in this season, but she should have grown up in the first one. If she finally gets that character development in season two I'll be satisfied; not that it really matters, but I'll be happy. :p

Also, I'd love to hear your rationale for how not abusing your powers -> perfect.
 

EulaCapra

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I get that we're all fans, but I think some of you are fans in the sense that "I love you so much that I'll have to kill you, so you don't get the chance to hurt me."

Enjoy the ride. It's only been 12 episodes and the reaction has already reached something akin to LOST's 121st episode and series finale.

Let's just all enjoy the pretty concept art and the attractiveness of Korra's father.
 

Veelk

Banned

Made this to visualize my complaint.

I don't understand, what do you guys want, a perfect Avatar that never makes mistakes? that would be so boring.

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To me it seems some of you expect the Avatar to be a perfect being or at least be another Aang, which again, would be boring and unrealistic.

I don't expect her to be perfect, but I expect her to have to grow and learn before she is granted that kind of power. Aang was childish and silly in the beginning too, but he grew out of it and into a respectable avatar by the series end. Korra now has all the power that Aang had at the end of the series, but without an ounce of maturity to handle it. Hopefully this season will fix that, but considering how Season 1 was suppose to be it's own complete story at the time it was written and how it was published, they really messed this part up with Korra. Now she has no real incentive to grow into a more mature person since she has all the power in the world.
 

Jacob

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I'm curious to see more of the Spirit World. IIRC it was also brown-toned in A:TLA so I'm very intrigued by that picture. I wonder if it's a different part of that realm.

I get that we're all fans, but I think some of you are fans in the sense that "I love you so much that I'll have to kill you, so you don't get the chance to hurt me."

Enjoy the ride. It's only been 12 episodes and the reaction has already reached something akin to LOST's 121st episode and series finale.

Let's just all enjoy the pretty concept art and the attractiveness of Korra's father.

I'm a fan of the original series; have been for years, but I'm not sure I'd call myself a fan of Korra. I'm waiting to see how the rest of the show plays out. It's not like I hated everything in the first season, either. I'm certainly interested to see where the show is going. :)
 

Artemisia

Banned
Made this to visualize my complaint.

Well, I don't think that's a fair comparison.

There's only been one book, and the other examples you gave had avatars that had mastered their powers. Korra just tapped into the avatar state, and still needs to become accustomed to airbending.

and how did she cheat? I seriously can't remember lol
 
I don't understand, what do you guys want, a perfect Avatar that never makes mistakes? that would be so boring.

Korra is just a teenager, she's 17, if you give that kind of power to any normal teenager they will most likely abuse that power or be tempted to use it for their own benefit.
Mastering the Avatar state doesn't magically makes the Avatar an adult or make their minds to be more mature.

Take Kuruk for example, most of the time he used his powers to impress ladies, pick fights and have fun and he was older than Korra, and Korra unlike Aang is not a monk, Aang being raised by monks made him grow spiritually and mature faster, he was the most mature person of his group.

Like Satchwar already said, the season will probably be about humbling her spirit-wise, she already got scolded by Tenzin for that, maybe later in the story she will lose the Avatar state like Aang and that will make her appreciate it more and use it responsibly.

To me it seems some of you expect the Avatar to be a perfect being or at least be another Aang, which again, would be boring and unrealistic.
Thats the problem, she was given it. I don't want her to have control over the avatar state to begin with. She hasnt learned jack shit about it like aang did when relelasing his chakras. She hasn't matured at all, which is why she shouldn't have it. Earning control is supposed to mean she has already learned what her duty is and that she knows she's suppose to use this power responsibly. Clearly that didnt happen, so how does she have control? It makes no sense for what were told previously, but then the whole avatar state stuff hasnt been consistent with the previous series all season. By the time kuruk became fully realized he was ready to settle down, koh took his wife for his lifestyle before that.

I don't expect Korra to be perfect, but I also don't expect her to be rewarded for something for no reason.
 

Jacob

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Well, I don't think that's a fair comparison.

There's only been one book, and the other examples you gave had avatars that had mastered their powers. Korra just tapped into the avatar state, and still needs to become accustomed to airbending.

and how did she cheat? I seriously can't remember lol

The cheating thing is from a report about the Book 2 preview from SDCC. At the end of Book 1 Korra was granted full control of the Avatar State.

I agree it's an entirely fair comparison, but I think the point is to illustrate a difference in attitude between the various avatars.

Thats the problem, she was given it. I don't want her to have control over the avatar state to begin with. She hasnt learned jack shit about it like aang did when relelasing his chakras. She hasn't matured at all, which is why she shouldn't have it. Earning control is supposed to mean she has already learned what her duty is and that she knows she's suppose to use this power responsibly. Clearly that didnt happen, so how does she have control? It makes no sense for what were told previously, but then the whole avatar state stuff hasnt been consistent with the previous series all season. By the time kuruk became fully realized he was ready to settle down, koh took his wife for his lifestyle before that.

I don't expect Korra to be perfect, but I also don't expect her to be rewarded for something for no reason.

Well said.
 
Well, I don't think that's a fair comparison.

There's only been one book, and the other examples you gave had avatars that had mastered their powers. Korra just tapped into the avatar state, and still needs to become accustomed to airbending.

and how did she cheat? I seriously can't remember lol
she cheats in season 2.
 

Tuck

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Book 2 Spirit, as expected. VERY happy we get to see more of the spirit world. And more of the world outside the City, though i hope they do get to do some exploring of Republic City.

I hope they turn down the shipping, turn up the character development and adjust the pacing.

VERY, VERY excited.

Art looks incredible. Dat spirit world.

EDIT: Sounds like the cast is being expanded significantly. That could be a problem - Book 1 had trouble juggling all the characters at once.
 

Parallax

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I hope that's not a coincidence and he mumbles just like him.

if they turn him into a nathan explosion type character, i will be all over this.

why is everybody else in this show so fucking BASIC compared to my FLAWFREE FAV GODDESSAMI SLAYTO

youre about to hit overdrive satch. those arent even real words at the end.
 

Tuck

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I wonder if the nonbenders being oppressed plotline has been dropped. I hope not. That would be a very nice side-plot to the main story.
 

Tuck

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can;t wait to see mako flying around and shit with fire jet feet or hands or whatever.

I really want an Asami/Mako confrontation scene where she just calls him out on his bullshit.

Then he can go sit in a corner or something while the real firebenders (Iroh) do their thing*.

*I don't actually hate Mako, but a scene like that would be wonderful.
 

Artemisia

Banned
I wonder if the nonbenders being oppressed plotline has been dropped. I hope not. That would be a very nice side-plot to the main story.

After a certain point, it seemed like the nonbenders only cared about the equalist movement because of Amon.

I know Amon is the leader, but if the non bending population have qualms with equality, it only makes sense for them to have them with or without amon.
 

SaintZ

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- Asami takes over her fathers company, more business attire
- STILL A BADASS THOUGH, Goggles, and updated racing leathers
Praise the lawd.

She looks so fierce (what else is new tho).
 

WillyFive

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Everything about that sounds fantastic.

The costume designs are a bit too close to Book 1, and they could use a little bit of color, but the scenery should more than make up for it.

After a certain point, it seemed like the nonbenders only cared about the equalist movement because of Amon.

I know Amon is the leader, but if the non bending population have qualms with equality, it only makes sense for them to have them with or without amon.

Well, yes. There was no indication at the end that race relations have been calmed down, only that the guy who rallied them up was dead.
 
I really want an Asami/Mako confrontation scene where she just calls him out on his bullshit.

Then he can go sit in a corner or something while the real firebenders (Iroh) do their thing*.

*I don't actually hate Mako, but a scene like that would be wonderful.
lol mako sit in the corner over asami? mako dumped her bro the minute they got together bro.

edit: really like bumi's face design.

why is tenzin still alive? he's on screen only to get knocked out, such a waste of a good design.
 

Veelk

Banned
Well, yes. There was no indication at the end that race relations have been calmed down, only that the guy who rallied them up was dead.

There wasn't even any indication of what happened to republic city. Yeah, Amon ran away and Hiroshi is presumably captured, but the qualists still had an iron grip on the city with technology to hold out for an extremely long time.

Apparently, we're suppose to believe that with Amon gone, the equalists lost all resolve and went home to watch TV or something.
 

ckohler

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Book 2 will explore the Spirit World and how the "Avatar" lineage began. Korra will travel into the spirit world and Konietzko hints that there may be episodes later in the season dedicated to exploring the bigger landscape of the Spirit World.

Wow. That's very intriguing. Hopefully they do this right. You have to be careful when explaining magic to not explain too much.
 

Satch

Banned
i'm not feeling so hot about how many people are being added to the cast so far

i mean, the idea of having more people is really awesome!!!

but we didn't get to know TEAM AVATAR in the first season... i know we've got more writers to help improve quality, but there's only so much you can do with 14 episodes
 

WillyFive

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The only character that could have used more time in Book 1 was Bolin, at least in my opinion; because he never got his moment to shine.

Made this to visualize my complaint.

And Aang went sliding with penguins and burned his best friends during his Book 1.

Those pictures are always funny of how different Korra is compared to the past ones, but I can't turn them into actual complaints against the show with a straight face.
 

Parallax

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There wasn't even any indication of what happened to republic city. Yeah, Amon ran away and Hiroshi is presumably captured, but the qualists still had an iron grip on the city with technology to hold out for an extremely long time.

Apparently, we're suppose to believe that with Amon gone, the equalists lost all resolve and went home to watch TV or something.

im assuming it will be addressed. amon disappearing would only make him martyr i would think. so just resolving it as is would be weak.

And Aang went sliding with penguins and burned his best friends during his Book 1.

Those pictures are always funny of how different Korra is compared to the past ones, but I can't turn them into actual complaints against the show with a straight face.

and he wasnt a fully realized avatar at the end of book one either. in fact he barely got a grip on waterbending, and hadnt even tried the other(except when he burned katara.)
 

Veelk

Banned
And Aang went sliding with penguins and burned his best friends during his Book 1.

Those pictures are always funny of how different Korra is compared to the past ones, but I can't turn them into actual complaints against the show with a straight face.

I already explained this several times.

It's fair to compare the entirety of TLA to Korra in my eyes because season 1 was originally suppose to be it's own complete season and was published this way because there wasn't enough time to change the story by the time they got news of a book 2. While Aang's book 2 and 3 were still part of his single driving story arc (to become a fully realized avatar and save the world), book 1 with Korra was it's own completed story arc and book 2 is a new story with the same characters, which is not the same thing what TLA did.

Second, Aang is allowed to be silly and have flaws. Korra can have flaws as well. But I expected her to mature, and she hasn't. Hopefully she will in book 2, but that doesn't change that she was granted the powers of a fully realized avatar without having to grow up like Aang needed to.
 

SykoTech

Member
-Korra still sounds like a very bad Avatar. Here's hoping That this actually changes this season, and she doesn't have everything handed to her on a silver platter....again.

+Liking the sounds of things for Asami. Hopefully she stays important and isn't pushed aside too much because she and Mako and broken up.

-Bolin....ugh, probending. Still, here's hoping his quest to "become a man" leads to some good actual character development for him.

+Nice to here that Mako's a cop. Hopefully that will help him be more than just a crappy shipping tool and an actual, likable character.

-Nothing on Lin. :(

+Spirit World usage sounds good. It could use a good fleshing out.

Overall, it sounds like it has potential. But I'll be keeping my expectations fairly low after how disappointing Book 1 was.
 

Tuck

Member
i'm not feeling so hot about how many people are being added to the cast so far

i mean, the idea of having more people is really awesome!!!

but we didn't get to know TEAM AVATAR in the first season... i know we've got more writers to help improve quality, but there's only so much you can do with 14 episodes

This is a concern of mine. Now that they have 3 seasons of breathing room, they have no excuse to rush. The main story arcs may end each season, but the character development really doesn't have to. In a perfect world, the Mako/Korra thing would have been developed over all 4 seasons, rather than squished into one, even though the Amon arc ended at the end of the first season.

Amazing how Asami already has a force driving her in season 2 (Trying to prove that she is not her father and can run a business without being corrupt). Great character.

why is tenzin still alive? he's on screen only to get knocked out, such a waste of a good design.

Unfortunately true. He had some badass moments, but he did seem to get knocked up a lot. Four times, throughout the season, I think. Maybe 5. Hopefully they step it up.
 
i'm not feeling so hot about how many people are being added to the cast so far

i mean, the idea of having more people is really awesome!!!

but we didn't get to know TEAM AVATAR in the first season... i know we've got more writers to help improve quality, but there's only so much you can do with 14 episodes
idk why people keep saying this, they're shows with larger casts that do a shitload in 12 or 13 episodes. The Wire comes to mind.
 
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