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Hey Gaf,

Don't know if any of you ever been through breakdowns and unjustice. Me i'm a beat poet.
I've had my whole life in a country robbed from me. From a woman I was in love with.
The story is sad, and tragic. And i'm far from over it. I am now in europe. And I love video games for their escapism.

Anyway, I used to live in toronto canada. I had a career and university. Friends, an apartment. But I got deported from having a fight on the phone with my exgirlfriend.

I'm 23, and I have to start over. I'm living with depression, and some neurosis.

Anybody know this feeling? Of moving back to your parents, due to something injustice or maybe some other reason?
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
How does one get deported because of a fight with his girlfriend?

He said something that made his ex-GF report him to immigration?

1. If you had university, you could still stay on student visa. Although, I am not familiar witl Candian immigration law.

2. If you had graduated, and as you say are a "beat poet." I'm guessing that occupation doesn't sponsor resident status.

3. What in the world happened that you go deported? Either your ex dropped the dime on you because, she overreacted, or you said something kinda harsh.

Was it your intention to permanently stay in Canada?

Lots of people move to a strnage new place with no friends after college, man. You'll survive.
 
Hey Gaf,

Don't know if any of you ever been through breakdowns and unjustice. Me i'm a beat poet.
I've had my whole life in a country robbed from me. From a woman I was in love with.
The story is sad, and tragic. And i'm far from over it. I am now in europe. And I love video games for their escapism.

Anyway, I used to live in toronto canada. I had a career and university. Friends, an apartment. But I got deported from having a fight on the phone with my exgirlfriend.

I'm 23, and I have to start over. I'm living with depression, and some neurosis.

Anybody know this feeling? Of moving back to your parents, due to something injustice or maybe some other reason?

This fascinates me, could you share the full story?
 

Steelrain

Member
After I left the military I ended up back home for awhile. I had been gone 4 years and all That I learned in the military was useless in the civilian world. It was pretty lonely for awhile. I spent a month or two of binge drinking and laying around the house. After a while I tried a few small jobs but nothing really clicked and I drank way too much so I quit those. Then I got a call out of the blue from a buddy of mine that went On to become a defense contractor and he said he'd hook me up with a job. Fast forward a year and I get back from Qatar and same situation. I didn't know what to do with myself. So I chose to go to Japan for university. Now I'm here, not really feeling it, wish I could quit but I need the visa to stay in the country so....yeah I dont know. I'll probably end up back in Afghanistan next year.
 

Izick

Member
Yeah, I'd really like to hear a more in-depth version of that story, only if you're willing to share it that is.
 
He said something that made his ex-GF report him to immigration?

1. If you had university, you could still stay on student visa. Although, I am not familiar witl Candian immigration law.

2. If you had graduated, and as you say are a "beat poet." I'm guessing that occupation doesn't sponsor resident status.

3. What in the world happened that you go deported? Either your ex dropped the dime on you because, she overreacted, or you said something kinda harsh.

Was it your intention to permanently stay in Canada?

Lots of people move to a strnage new place with no friends after college, man. You'll survive.

I'm betting he threatened his girlfriend and she went to the authorities.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I'm betting he threatened his girlfriend and she went to the authorities.

Maybe he acted ina way where his ex might have not seen it as threatening, since she knows her, but an outside part like the ex's friend found it threatening and dropped the dime on him.

Either way, you effed up if this is indeed the case.

I hope it wasn't.
 
I'm betting he threatened his girlfriend and she went to the authorities.

I never threatened her, I never shouted at her, I never hurt her.

I didn't leave her alone, and she called the authorities and made up some stories. I put my faith in a lawyer, who than plead guilty not in my best interest.

The police lied about evidence, my while life I suddenly became a subject.

I'm a beat poet now, I wasn't before. It just happens to you.

Supposedly it's against the law to write unwanted emails. It's "stalking", I was hurt. I wanted to stay and not lose her because I loved her.

She gets me banned from school by telling the security there she fears for her "safety", which was complete bullshit because a month before we were still sleeping together. I was dating a very stupid bitch. Who thought it was ok to lie to hurt me.

On the phone, I dared her to call the police. Because I knew i didn't do anything criminal. They came to my house that night, saw my phone, saw that she tried to call me, heard my side of the story, they left asking me only not to waste their time. Next day, I get a call from a family detective, saying I should come in to a station for questioning. They arrested me there, with all my school supplies, And once you're in a system like that you never get out. The police threatened while I was in jail. Saying if i beat this case they'll break my jaw or plant drugs me.
as if I was going to murder her or something. When the last time we saw each other and had a fight, she hit me, punching me. She said stuff like "I can get you deported" "I will break you" , she had motive and used the law against me.


What country in Europe?
I'm in vienna, austria now. But they deported me to my home country in Uruguay. When you're found guilty of something you lose your student visa.

And guess what. If you don't have family or can't contact your real friends to get bail and assurity(someone to be with you 24/7) You're left in jail awaiting the day they buy your ticket out.
 

bjb

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I never threatened her, I never shouted at her, I never hurt her.

I didn't leave her alone, and she called the authorities and made up some stories. I put my faith in a lawyer, who than plead guilty not in my best interest.

The police lied about evidence, my while life I suddenly became a subject.

I'm a beat poet now, I wasn't before. It just happens to you.

Supposedly it's against the law to write unwanted emails. It's "stalking", I was hurt. I wanted to stay and not lose her because I loved her.

She gets me banned from school by telling the security there she fears for her "safety", which was complete bullshit because a month before we were still sleeping together. I was dating a very stupid bitch. Who thought it was ok to lie to hurt me.

On the phone, I dared her to call the police. Because I knew i didn't do anything criminal. They came to my house that night, saw my phone, saw that she tried to call me, heard my side of the story, they left asking me only not to waste their time. Next day, I get a call from a family detective, saying I should come in to a station for questioning. They arrested me there, with all my school supplies, as if I was going to murder her or something.


And once you're in a system like that you never get out. The police threatened while I was in jail. Saying if i beat this case they'll break my jaw or plant drugs me.

Crazy girls are the best. You've never truly loved until you've been with one.
 
I never threatened her, I never shouted at her, I never hurt her.

I didn't leave her alone, and she called the authorities and made up some stories. I put my faith in a lawyer, who than plead guilty not in my best interest.

The police lied about evidence, my while life I suddenly became a subject.

I'm a beat poet now, I wasn't before. It just happens to you.

Supposedly it's against the law to write unwanted emails. It's "stalking", I was hurt. I wanted to stay and not lose her because I loved her.

She gets me banned from school by telling the security there she fears for her "safety", which was complete bullshit because a month before we were still sleeping together. I was dating a very stupid bitch. Who thought it was ok to lie to hurt me.

On the phone, I dared her to call the police. Because I knew i didn't do anything criminal. They came to my house that night, saw my phone, saw that she tried to call me, heard my side of the story, they left asking me only not to waste their time. Next day, I get a call from a family detective, saying I should come in to a station for questioning. They arrested me there, with all my school supplies, as if I was going to murder her or something.


And once you're in a system like that you never get out. The police threatened while I was in jail. Saying if i beat this case they'll break my jaw or plant drugs me.

Yeah, incoming 20+ page thread.
Some will question you, others will engage in a discussion on true nature of women, and nothing constructive will be said.
 
^edit: just read the above. If what you say is true, that shit really sucks. She sounds fucking crazy. Maybe legal GAF can find a way to loophole your way back into Canada? Sorry man.

I guess the good news is that you're still pretty young and have your whole life ahead of you. Some people need to start from scratch at double that age sometimes. You've gone to university, you've had a career, and I'm sure you've learned tons along the way. Focus all of that experience in your new environment and see where it leads you. My circumstances weren't as dire as yours, but I do know that "starting from zero" feeling, arriving at a totally new place with no friends or family members nearby. It's scary, but a new start can always lead to a better life.

Good luck.
 

LordCanti

Member
Yeah, there's a storm coming.

This thread isn't doing you any favours, you don't just 'get deported' like that.

It doesn't help that most stalkers don't realize that they are stalkers. It's like saying "I'm not an alcoholic" despite absolutely being an alcoholic.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Well, how many emails is unwanted.

Was it her saying "Please don't contact me again." And you continued to contact her?

I never threatened her, I never shouted at her, I never hurt her.

I didn't leave her alone, and she called the authorities and made up some stories. I put my faith in a lawyer, who than plead guilty not in my best interest.

Supposedly it's against the law to write unwanted emails. It's "stalking", I was hurt. I wanted to stay and not lose her because I loved her.

I mean, you dropped the snowball, that unfortunately turned into an avalanche.
 

Locke_211

Member
You said 'I didn't leave her alone' - this kind of sounds a little like stalking, perhaps? Did she specifically ask you to leave her alone?
 
I have to agree, though. This is quite incredible breakup revenge.

I can post her naked pictures online, but I don't really see the point of that. She lived a horrible and dark life. A muslim mother she shared a bed with at age 21.

Her parents forbid her to be with me, not being brown and not being rich. We were very much in love. I was going to be the guy who didn't give up through the worst.

And than, something truly unfair happens. Like the law, stepping inside of a relationship that simply got complicated. That's such bullshit man. If someone lives in Toronto, they could even see the court documents.

How a lawyer plaid guilty for me, during a joint submission full of bullshit. When the first day in court. I was just asked to leave her alone, but the second day, because her parents came to court. they change the conditions. And than finally when being sentenced, they go all out with complete bullshit from what I was initially being accused off.

And when I had a chance of a retrial. I couldn't think straight anymore, what jail does. Is suck all the soul out of you. Waking up everyday in jail because of something you didn't do.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I can post her naked pictures online, but I don't really see the point of that. She lived a horrible and dark life. A muslim mother she shared a bed with at age 21.

Her parents forbid her to be with me, not being brown and not being rich. We were very much in love. I was going to be the guy who didn't give up through the worst.

And than, something truly unfair happens. Like the law, stepping inside of a relationship that simply got complicated. That's such bullshit man. If someone lives in Toronto, they could even see the court documents.

How a lawyer plaid guilty for me, during a joint submission full of bullshit. When the first day in court. I was just asked to leave her alone, but the second day, because her parents came to court. they change the conditions. And than finally when being sentenced, they go all out with complete bullshit from what I was initially being accused off.

And when I had a chance of a retrial. I couldn't think straight anymore, what jail does. Is suck all the soul out of you. Waking up everyday in jail because of something you didn't do.

But you didn't leave her alone.
 
You said 'I didn't leave her alone' - this kind of sounds a little like stalking, perhaps? Did she specifically ask you to leave her alone?

A man has the right to fight with someone he was in a relationship with. If he's not hurting her, or threatening her.

That's just relationships sometimes. Yeah she warned me. But you never expect someone who used to say they love you to go so far.
 

Tristam

Member
I never threatened her, I never shouted at her, I never hurt her.

I didn't leave her alone, and she called the authorities and made up some stories. I put my faith in a lawyer, who than plead guilty not in my best interest.

The police lied about evidence, my while life I suddenly became a subject.

I'm a beat poet now, I wasn't before. It just happens to you.

Supposedly it's against the law to write unwanted emails. It's "stalking", I was hurt. I wanted to stay and not lose her because I loved her.

She gets me banned from school by telling the security there she fears for her "safety", which was complete bullshit because a month before we were still sleeping together. I was dating a very stupid bitch. Who thought it was ok to lie to hurt me.

On the phone, I dared her to call the police. Because I knew i didn't do anything criminal. They came to my house that night, saw my phone, saw that she tried to call me, heard my side of the story, they left asking me only not to waste their time. Next day, I get a call from a family detective, saying I should come in to a station for questioning. They arrested me there, with all my school supplies, And once you're in a system like that you never get out. The police threatened while I was in jail. Saying if i beat this case they'll break my jaw or plant drugs me.
as if I was going to murder her or something. When the last time we saw each other and had a fight, she hit me, punching me. She said stuff like "I can get you deported" "I will break you" , she had motive and used the law against me.


I'm in vienna, austria now. But they deported me to my home country in Uruguay. When you're found guilty of something you lose your student visa.

And guess what. If you don't have family or can't contact your real friends to get bail and assurity(someone to be with you 24/7) You're left in jail awaiting the day they buy your ticket out.

Is your ex Ivan Drago?
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
A man has the right to fight with someone he was in a relationship with. If he's not hurting her, or threatening her.

That's just relationships sometimes. Yeah she warned me. But you never expect someone who used to say they love you to go so far.

Yeah.....about that.
 

bjb

Banned
I can post her naked pictures online, but I don't really see the point of that. She lived a horrible and dark life. A muslim mother she shared a bed with at age 21.

Her parents forbid her to be with me, not being brown and not being rich. We were very much in love. I was going to be the guy who didn't give up through the worst.

And than, something truly unfair happens. Like the law, stepping inside of a relationship that simply got complicated. That's such bullshit man. If someone lives in Toronto, they could even see the court documents.

How a lawyer plaid guilty for me, during a joint submission full of bullshit. When the first day in court. I was just asked to leave her alone, but the second day, because her parents came to court. they change the conditions. And than finally when being sentenced, they go all out with complete bullshit from what I was initially being accused off.

And when I had a chance of a retrial. I couldn't think straight anymore, what jail does. Is suck all the soul out of you. Waking up everyday in jail because of something you didn't do.

What exactly happened though that caused this breakup?
 
I can post her naked pictures online, but I don't really see the point of that. She lived a horrible and dark life. A muslim mother she shared a bed with at age 21.

Her parents forbid her to be with me, not being brown and not being rich. We were very much in love. I was going to be the guy who didn't give up through the worst.

And than, something truly unfair happens. Like the law, stepping inside of a relationship that simply got complicated. That's such bullshit man. If someone lives in Toronto, they could even see the court documents.

How a lawyer plaid guilty for me, during a joint submission full of bullshit. When the first day in court. I was just asked to leave her alone, but the second day, because her parents came to court. they change the conditions. And than finally when being sentenced, they go all out with complete bullshit from what I was initially being accused off.

And when I had a chance of a retrial. I couldn't think straight anymore, what jail does. Is suck all the soul out of you. Waking up everyday in jail because of something you didn't do.

Your story doesn't hold up and makes no sense. At first it sounds like she started to hate you for some reason (the details of which you conveniently left out). Now you give us some romeo and juliet bullshit?

All your posts are fragmented and nobody knows what you're talking about. What caused the breakup to begin with? The way you're talking, I assume what caused the breakup was you being batshit fucking insane.
 
But you didn't leave her alone.

After the police was involved, I never contacted her or saw her again.

A month or two later she writes me an email. Telling me to get undergrad, and prove that i'm seeing psychological help. And than she'll look into signing an affidavit which would let me return.

You see that's a psycho right there. Someone proud of what they did to try and control you. And your future. And I don't think she even feels guilt. Especially when it was her mother. Who broke us up. Not even her.
 
I can post her naked pictures online, but I don't really see the point of that. She lived a horrible and dark life. A muslim mother she shared a bed with at age 21.

Her parents forbid her to be with me, not being brown and not being rich. We were very much in love. I was going to be the guy who didn't give up through the worst.

And than, something truly unfair happens. Like the law, stepping inside of a relationship that simply got complicated. That's such bullshit man. If someone lives in Toronto, they could even see the court documents.

How a lawyer plaid guilty for me, during a joint submission full of bullshit. When the first day in court. I was just asked to leave her alone, but the second day, because her parents came to court. they change the conditions. And than finally when being sentenced, they go all out with complete bullshit from what I was initially being accused off.

And when I had a chance of a retrial. I couldn't think straight anymore, what jail does. Is suck all the soul out of you. Waking up everyday in jail because of something you didn't do.

Relationships sometimes get complicated, genuinely, but sometimes people think their relationship is complicated when it actually doesn't exist.

Example:

(´・ω・`)

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A man has the right to fight with someone he was in a relationship with. If he's not hurting her, or threatening her.

That's just relationships sometimes. Yeah she warned me. But you never expect someone who used to say they love you to go so far.

Threats can be pretty hard to define.
 

Izick

Member
Call me cynical, but I have to ask: Why are the parents, the girlfriend, the school officials, the authorities, and seemingly everyone so hell-bent on trying to "ruin" you?
 
Your story doesn't hold up and makes no sense. At first it sounds like she started to hate you for some reason (the details of which you conveniently left out). Now you give us some romeo and juliet bullshit?

All your posts are fragmented and nobody knows what you're talking about. What caused the breakup to begin with? The way you're talking, I assume what caused the breakup was you being batshit fucking insane.

Yeah she hated me, because I wasn't giving up and moving on.

No trust, it's tragic. I loved her a lot. Maybe that's insane in itself. But 4 months together, and seeing one another almost everyday, being full on partners.

I'm not going to change the way I write, that's my beat poem style. Which helps me. Somehow.
 

bjb

Banned
After the police was involved, I never contacted her or saw her again.

A month or two later she writes me an email. Telling me to get undergrad, and prove that i'm seeing psychological help. And than she'll look into signing an affidavit which would let me return.

You see that's a psycho right there. Someone proud of what they did to try and control you. And your future. And I don't think she even feels guilt. Especially when it was her mother. Who broke us up. Not even her.

I get your hurting and she did this to you, but how did you guys break up in the first place? What led to your relationship falling apart?
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
After the police was involved, I never contacted her or saw her again.

A month or two later she writes me an email. Telling me to get undergrad, and prove that i'm seeing psychological help. And than she'll look into signing an affidavit which would let me return.

You see that's a psycho right there. Someone proud of what they did to try and control you. And your future. And I don't think she even feels guilt. Especially when it was her mother. Who broke us up. Not even her.

What made the police get involved the first time?
 

bill0527

Member
Call me cynical, but I have to ask: Why are the parents, the girlfriend, the school officials, the authorities, and seemingly everyone so hell-bent on trying to "ruin" you?

Could be that the girls parents are wealthy and have political influence. They see the OP as being someone undesirable for their daughter so they've pulled out all the stops to get him out of her life.
 
Call me cynical, but I have to ask: Why are the parents, the girlfriend, the school officials, the authorities, and seemingly everyone so hell-bent on trying to "ruin" you?

Because i'm small, because I actually physically look harmless. And because a woman came to them, saying she fears for her safety?

Yet, to me this was the woman I was sleeping not to long ago. This was my partner for 4 months. This was someone who was crazy, and I understood better than they did.

But I wanted things my way. And I should have backed down. But I was a person of tenacity. I was a grant winning art student.

But she took my school away from me. Her request to the police was that I leave the country for a year. Unable to finish that school year in the process.
 

fanboi

Banned
Yeah she hated me, because I wasn't giving up and moving on.

No trust, it's tragic. I loved her a lot. Maybe that's insane in itself. But 4 months together, and seeing one another almost everyday, being full on partners.

I'm not going to change the way I write, that's my beat poem style. Which helps me. Somehow.

Wait... you where together only 4 months?

...

Get a grip man.
 
What made the police get involved the first time?

There was no other time. She wanted me to leave her alone outside of the police.

I didn't

Police gets involve. I have too. While on bail-program. But that bail-program didn't let me attend school anymore. That already was way to unfair.

If i never got arrested. It would have been a warning, and I would have been ok leaving her alone. But I got arrested and she got to go into a police station. And say whatever she wanted. And my word. Only comes out. When i'm paying someone 200 dollars an hour, to represent me.

I was hurt, I lived alone. I had no family to bail or represent me or speak to my character. She was my family. Hell, i'm never gonna love someone with weaknesses like living away from home again.
 
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