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London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT2|

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Meier

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Just posted this in the other olympics thread, but check out this clip if you haven't already.

Clip: http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/gymnastics/highlights-fabulous-five-on-vault.html

McKayla Maroney's vault at 2:50.

Also, check out the slo-mo at 4:08 and look at the judge's expression to the left of her at 4:30.

And yet it still had a deduction. Insane!
 

masud

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I really think there should be 3-on-3 basketball.
And 3 point shootout.
And Skills contest.
And Sprite Rising Stars Dunk Contest.

There should also be a medley for all these events. Lamar Odom would do well.

Don't forget 1 on 1 and horse!
 

DrM

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China's gold medals are much more dispersed:
Weightlifting 4
Swimming 4
Table tennis 2
Shooting 2
Diving 4
/disciplines with 1 gold not incl.

They still have several golds in table tennis, badminton and diving on their radars
 

Sky Chief

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yeah that's how it's done. the collegiate system has no contribution to USA swimming.......

In Beijing, Olympians who went to PAC 12 schools represented 46 countries in 21 sports and won 89 medals. Only two countries, China and the USA won more medals and that is just from 12 US colleges.
 

Subitai

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yeah that's how it's done. the collegiate system has no contribution to USA swimming.......
The truth is the NCAA championships are a much more fun meet to participate in and watch. Everything down to 16th place counts for points and is hotly contested.
 
China's gold medals are much more dispersed:
Weightlifting 4
Swimming 4
Table tennis 2
Shooting 2
Diving 4

They still have several golds in table tennis, badminton and diving on their radars
Are you just naming some of them? I now they have at least one other one, in Fencing, Men's Foil Individual.

EDIT: Ah, just saw your own edit (disciplines with 1 gold not included).
 
USA have a very smart tactic. Invest everything on 5-6 good swimmers, then they can together earn 36 medals for USA...

That's the beauty of Team USA: USA doesn't invest in its athletes.

Swimming has always been a strong US event, really. The question is how well the US will do in the Track events. I still think China lacks success in those events.
 
I really think there should be 3-on-3 basketball.
And 3 point shootout.
And Skills contest.
And Sprite Rising Stars Dunk Contest.

There should also be a medley for all these events. Lamar Odom would do well.

As long as they don't use the dumb gimmicky theatrics that the NBA dunk contest uses...
 

Kjellson

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Does swimming and athletics get a lot of coverage in the US? I've heard that nobody cares outside the Olympics, which is a bit sad since you're so good in those sports.
 

Sky Chief

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The US doesn't invest anything into them. That's not how swimming works in the US. Swimmers train in clubs which receive no money from the government. Sure they spend about a month at the Olympic training camp but most all the swimmers bring their own coaches and do 99% of their training with the respective clubs and/or universities.

This, as I said on the previous page
 

numble

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Does swimming and athletics get a lot of coverage in the US? I've heard that nobody cares outside the Olympics, which is a bit sad since you're so good in those sports.
It's very big in high school and college. Even in Division 2 and 3 schools.
 

Knoxcore

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So does Lochte still have races to run?

I think he is done unless he shows up at the final relay.

Phelps still has the 100 fly and the relay according to NBC. He could get another individual gold if he swims right and does not make any rookie mistakes like in the 200 fly.
 
In Beijing, Olympians who went to PAC 12 schools represented 46 countries in 21 sports and won 89 medals. Only two countries, China and the USA won more medals and that is just from 12 US colleges.

Yeah. I mean.....without the US collegiate system many countries who dominate track and field today would be absolute shit. So many athletes get their training and start within the US collegiate system. Its not just swimming.
 
Does swimming and athletics get a lot of coverage in the US? I've heard that nobody cares outside the Olympics, which is a bit sad since you're so good in those sports.
Swimming has been getting a lot more attention after Phelps in 08, still not as big as Basketball, Football, etc obviously.
 

Meier

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Does swimming and athletics get a lot of coverage in the US? I've heard that nobody cares outside the Olympics, which is a bit sad since you're so good in those sports.

No exposure at all outside of the Olympics. Very few sports do in the US -- essentially only those with major professional leagues/organizations.
 
Us medals


Swimming 23
Diving 3
Shooting 2
Rowing 2
Judo 2
Gymnastics 3
Cycling 1
Archery 1



China medals

Swimming 9
Weightlifting 6
Table tennis 4
Shooting 5
Judo 1
Gymnastics 1
Fencing 2
Diving 4
Cycling 1
Archery 1
 

giga

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That's the beauty of Team USA: USA doesn't invest in its athletes.

Swimming has always been a strong US event, really. The question is how well the US will do in the Track events. I still think China lacks success in those events.
I really wish we would. If they're not in college and not a top swimmer with a sponsor, it's expensive and hard for athletes.
 
No exposure at all outside of the Olympics. Very few sports do in the US -- essentially only those with major professional leagues/organizations.

Not true. You just don't watch the right channels.

Universal sports has Diamond league and many swimming meets every year.
 

masud

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Does swimming and athletics get a lot of coverage in the US? I've heard that nobody cares outside the Olympics, which is a bit sad since you're so good in those sports.

Amateur? No. But the collegiate stuff is popular and that’s where all these athletes come from.
 

Kjellson

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It's very big in high school and college. Even in Division 2 and 3 schools.

Swimming has been getting a lot more attention after Phelps in 08, still not as big as Basketball, Football, etc obviously.
That's good to hear.

No exposure at all outside of the Olympics. Very few sports do in the US -- essentially only those with major professional leagues/organizations.
That's too bad. I hope someone will take care of that.
 

Meier

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Not true. You just don't watch the right channels.

Universal sports has Diamond league and many swimming meets every year.

Umm, that's not exposure. That's limited coverage that is only viewed by diehard fans of the sport. No one, and I mean NO ONE, knows any swimmers other than Olympians (whether it's just qualifying or not) unless they're heavily invested in swimming.
 

Sealda

Banned
The US doesn't invest anything into them. That's not how swimming works in the US. Swimmers train in clubs which receive no money from the government. Sure they spend about a month at the Olympic training camp but most all the swimmers bring their own coaches and do 99% of their training with the respective clubs and/or universities.


I know that too. I even spent a whole intercontinental flight talking to a Big Ten US swim team coach. He was on his way to scout talents in Europe.

However, in most of the world, we refer to just the country. For instance, in USA you say Team USA won gold about the USA in the olympics. Meanwhile in rest of the world, you probably just say USA won gold.

A big difference between USA and rest of the world, is that the athletes in USA, have basically been "rockstars" since they went to junior high.

In most other countries, a swimmer is only / possibly a rockstars once he wins olympic gold.
 
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