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Sometimes I think I am the only Who fan that thinks the weeping angels are dumb. I just don't like them at all, and everybody else seems to think they are the best villain since the Daleks. They are DUMB. They are Boos from Super Mario World, only they look like angel statues. I find the logistics of their "powers" to be entirely stupid. Everybody fucking blinks. It is basically impossible not to blink after a few minutes of trying not to, but somehow nobody ever blinks. Bullshit. Everybody that encounters them should be dead.

In my opinion they are just a beta version of The Silence aliens, a villain that also uses a "something happens when you look away" mechanic that makes much more sense. Their power doesn't completely fall apart after you think about its mechanics for more than a minute and a half.

Anyway, as for a different topic, I noticed that in the new trailer the Doctor mentions to Amy that he is doing something to honor the victims of "him, The Master, and the Daleks". Rory is not in this scene. This is more fuel to the "Rory is the Master" theory. Does anybody here buy that theory? Personally, I'm not sure, but I really hope it's true because that would be awesome.
 
I hope it actually is The Doctor finishing off The Daleks. I'm growing tired of the assistants having the 'killer' moments. The feeling I get from that trailer is that it is Amy that did it, which would not please me at all.
 
Tiring of River and Angels. Hopefully they really do break clean when Amy and Rory go and we don't see much of River after that point either.

Noticeable: The new paradigm Daleks have been given a makeover.

Even more noticeable: They're buried under a metric fucktonne of Proper Daleks. :D

Yeah, proper admission of failure, I feel. Good, though, as those new ones are bloody horrible. Hopefully the adjustments made make them look better.
 

Tizoc

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I want to see 11 team up with previous Doctors already @3@
Which of the previous Doctors are still in fit condition to star in action packed episodes, etc.?
 
Sometimes I think I am the only Who fan that thinks the weeping angels are dumb. I just don't like them at all, and everybody else seems to think they are the best villain since the Daleks. They are DUMB. They are Boos from Super Mario World, only they look like angel statues. I find the logistics of their "powers" to be entirely stupid. Everybody fucking blinks. It is basically impossible not to blink after a few minutes of trying not to, but somehow nobody ever blinks. Bullshit. Everybody that encounters them should be dead.

In my opinion they are just a beta version of The Silence aliens, a villain that also uses a "something happens when you look away" mechanic that makes much more sense. Their power doesn't completely fall apart after you think about its mechanics for more than a minute and a half.

Anyway, as for a different topic, I noticed that in the new trailer the Doctor mentions to Amy that he is doing something to honor the victims of "him, The Master, and the Daleks". Rory is not in this scene. This is more fuel to the "Rory is the Master" theory. Does anybody here buy that theory? Personally, I'm not sure, but I really hope it's true because that would be awesome.
Well, with the Weeping Angels, they usually do not stare at them for a long time but mostly get interrupted by something, but there have been a couple of moments in the series where the people would not blink their eyes simultaneously so that one eye is open.
 
I want to see 11 team up with previous Doctors already @3@
Which of the previous Doctors are still in fit condition to star in action packed episodes, etc.?

8, 9, 10 for sure. 7 actually has fared alright, though not for action - but he doesn't look all that older - partly because they showed him old in the movie pre-regeneration. The others... tough to say, really - not really without some time-bending plot to explain why they look older. Even then, I'd not expect them to be running around.

A "modern era" multi-Doctor episode would be the wisest thing, I think - 8, 9, 10 and 11.

I still feel what would be very cool is that if Matt is regenerating next year (I really do feel like Series 8 will be his last) is if that was the regeneration episode. Helped through his regeneration by his past selves? Would be very cool.

As a random side note - with Red Dwarf coming back for a proper, full series later this year, I feel the next Red Nose Day has to have a Who/RD crossover skit. Surely. Please?!
 
Sometimes I think I am the only Who fan that thinks the weeping angels are dumb. I just don't like them at all, and everybody else seems to think they are the best villain since the Daleks. They are DUMB. They are Boos from Super Mario World, only they look like angel statues. I find the logistics of their "powers" to be entirely stupid. Everybody fucking blinks. It is basically impossible not to blink after a few minutes of trying not to, but somehow nobody ever blinks. Bullshit. Everybody that encounters them should be dead.

In my opinion they are just a beta version of The Silence aliens, a villain that also uses a "something happens when you look away" mechanic that makes much more sense. Their power doesn't completely fall apart after you think about its mechanics for more than a minute and a half.

Anyway, as for a different topic, I noticed that in the new trailer the Doctor mentions to Amy that he is doing something to honor the victims of "him, The Master, and the Daleks". Rory is not in this scene. This is more fuel to the "Rory is the Master" theory. Does anybody here buy that theory? Personally, I'm not sure, but I really hope it's true because that would be awesome.

The thing is...powers in Doctor Who aren't really built to hold up to that much scrutiny anyway. It's a pulpy Saturday tea-time family show and it works best as such. When it's trying to pin more hard sci-fi continuity and depth on to the framework it falls apart a bit in my opinion, look at the last series for an example of that.
 
8, 9, 10 for sure. 7 actually has fared alright, though not for action - but he doesn't look all that older - partly because they showed him old in the movie pre-regeneration. The others... tough to say, really - not really without some time-bending plot to explain why they look older. Even then, I'd not expect them to be running around.

A "modern era" multi-Doctor episode would be the wisest thing, I think - 8, 9, 10 and 11.

I still feel what would be very cool is that if Matt is regenerating next year (I really do feel like Series 8 will be his last) is if that was the regeneration episode. Helped through his regeneration by his past selves? Would be very cool.

As a random side note - with Red Dwarf coming back for a proper, full series later this year, I feel the next Red Nose Day has to have a Who/RD crossover skit. Surely. Please?!

Series 8 won't be next year.

From what I remember hearing, series 7 is split in two and next year has the 50th anniversary specials. Series 8 will be 2014.
 
Series 8 won't be next year.

From what I remember hearing, series 7 is split in two and next year has the 50th anniversary specials. Series 8 will be 2014.

Well, that's what I meant, rather. That he'll go in 2013, as part of the 50th celebrations. I didn't know it wasn't going to be a series, though.

That does make sense, mind - S7 is split in two - Amy/Rory episodes up until Christmas, the Christmas Special introduces the new companion, and then the 'second half' of the series with the new companion early in the new year. Specials late in 2013 make sense. Matt's in very high demand, he'll have done four years then, and what better way to celebrate than with a new Doctor?
 
The thing is...powers in Doctor Who aren't really built to hold up to that much scrutiny anyway. It's a pulpy Saturday tea-time family show and it works best as such. When it's trying to pin more hard sci-fi continuity and depth on to the framework it falls apart a bit in my opinion, look at the last series for an example of that.

Yeah this is my problem with the angels. Based on how insanely fast they seem to move when you aren't looking, it doesn't follow that you could actually survive an encounter with one of them.
 
Remember when they did the Muti-Doctor episodes in the past, and they had to re-cast The First Doctor because William Hartnell had passed? Seeing how Eccelston is dead set against showing up for a special, how would you feel if they hired someone else to portray the "Ninth Doctor"?
 
Remember when they did the Muti-Doctor episodes in the past, and they had to re-cast The First Doctor because William Hartnell had passed? Seeing how Eccelston is dead set against showing up for a special, how would you feel if they hired someone else to portray the "Ninth Doctor"?

A bit too soon for me. Just skip him. Anyone before McGann they can recast, although I'd avoid the 5th since we've seen the original actor play him recently.
 

Quick

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Remember when they did the Muti-Doctor episodes in the past, and they had to re-cast The First Doctor because William Hartnell had passed? Seeing how Eccelston is dead set against showing up for a special, how would you feel if they hired someone else to portray the "Ninth Doctor"?

I don't think you can really capture Eccleston's portrayal of the Ninth Doctor without casting Eccleston himself. I guess I guess wouldn't mind in the end, but I'd rather they just leave the Ninth Doctor than get someone else to play him.
 
Remember when they did the Muti-Doctor episodes in the past, and they had to re-cast The First Doctor because William Hartnell had passed? Seeing how Eccelston is dead set against showing up for a special, how would you feel if they hired someone else to portray the "Ninth Doctor"?

Personally, I feel that if you can't get the original actor then they shouldn't be in it. Using some old footage in a t. baker 5 Doctors way or not having them at all is preferable to recasting.

Using holograms/video screens/Some sort of CGI and old soundbites they should be able to include Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee even for a small segment. They can always use surviving actors to represent those eras like Ian, Jamie and Jo.
 
It's only been two series and like 20-something episodes. In America (depending on the show) that's like a season-and-a-half.

Yeah except when you compare it against other Doctor/Companion duos in New Who. She's been around longer than Rose. And Rose traveled with two Doctors. This dynamic is overplayed now.

Comparing against American TV shows is comparing apples and oranges. It needs to be compared against the internal universe.

And by your logic River is just a cameo.
 
Yeah except when you compare it against other Doctor/Companion duos in New Who. She's been around longer than Rose. And Rose traveled with two Doctors. This dynamic is overplayed now.

Comparing against American TV shows is comparing apples and oranges. It needs to be compared against the internal universe.

And by your logic River is just a cameo.

I for one am glad the show is able to retain a cast for more than a season or so-I hate when the cast is constantly changing every season. I actually like the cast changing-to keep it fresh-but it doesn't need to be every season or 2. I'm glad Smith loves the role and isn't itching to leave and mentioning it all the time.
 

Tizoc

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8, 9, 10 for sure. 7 actually has fared alright, though not for action - but he doesn't look all that older - partly because they showed him old in the movie pre-regeneration. The others... tough to say, really - not really without some time-bending plot to explain why they look older. Even then, I'd not expect them to be running around.

A "modern era" multi-Doctor episode would be the wisest thing, I think - 8, 9, 10 and 11.

I still feel what would be very cool is that if Matt is regenerating next year (I really do feel like Series 8 will be his last) is if that was the regeneration episode. Helped through his regeneration by his past selves? Would be very cool.

As a random side note - with Red Dwarf coming back for a proper, full series later this year, I feel the next Red Nose Day has to have a Who/RD crossover skit. Surely. Please?!

Coolios...and funnily enough, so far we've had:
The 3 Doctors
The 5 Doctors
The 2 Doctors
8, 9, 10 and 11 would make up The Four Doctors lol
 
I for one am glad the show is able to retain a cast for more than a season or so-I hate when the cast is constantly changing every season. I actually like the cast changing-to keep it fresh-but it doesn't need to be every season or 2. I'm glad Smith loves the role and isn't itching to leave and mentioning it all the time.

I'm not asking for Smith to leave. I'm asking for Karen to leave. I want to see how the Doctor travels with more than one person. You can talk about Rory and River all you want, but the two of them are just extensions of Amy. Hell they even said "Rory Pond."
 
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I like that Master comment in the trailer. I wonder if that that's a hint of things to come?
 

gabbo

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Remember when they did the Muti-Doctor episodes in the past, and they had to re-cast The First Doctor because William Hartnell had passed? Seeing how Eccelston is dead set against showing up for a special, how would you feel if they hired someone else to portray the "Ninth Doctor"?

If they can't get the actor back, don't use that Doctor. Recasting just isn't the same, especially with Eccleston's take on the Doctor (and those ears).

I like that Master comment in the trailer. I wonder if that that's a hint of things to come?

The Doctor is making amends to his victims. Sounds more like we'd see old companions drop in than a new Master.
 

The Technomancer

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Cool trailer, but it seems his traveling alone lasts for all of a few mins. I was actually looking forward to a more low key who where he's alone and trying not to draw attention to himself...

Ah well, will watch anyway.

Same. Ah well, maybe its for the best considering how the whole "River Song" thing played out (as an example of them trying to do something besides over-the-top quirky fun)
 
Cool trailer, but it seems his traveling alone lasts for all of a few mins. I was actually looking forward to a more low key who where he's alone and trying not to draw attention to himself...

Ah well, will watch anyway.
He's still travelling alone. The first half of the series is made up of standalones, with Amy and Rory going home between each episode.

Man, I hope they put out a soundtrack CD for the first half of the series. I need that new I Am The Doctor arrangement.
 

TehOh

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I'm not asking for Smith to leave. I'm asking for Karen to leave. I want to see how the Doctor travels with more than one person. You can talk about Rory and River all you want, but the two of them are just extensions of Amy. Hell they even said "Rory Pond."

Rory is one of the best companions of all time. He went from wallpaper to being awesome. I think I'll miss him more than Amy.
 

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I'll take this thanks you very much. Decent trailer, can't wait!
 
Same. Ah well, maybe its for the best considering how the whole "River Song" thing played out (as an example of them trying to do something besides over-the-top quirky fun)

Also same. I don't think we'll get low key as long as Smith is in the role. Madcap and frenetic seems to be the order of the day.


Rory is one of the best companions of all time. He went from wallpaper to being awesome. I think I'll miss him more than Amy.

I love any companion who stands up to the Doctor. All my favorites, new and classic, have that trait somewhat.
 

iapetus

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If they can't get the actor back, don't use that Doctor. Recasting just isn't the same, especially with Eccleston's take on the Doctor (and those ears).

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If Eccleston's not available to reprise the Doctor, cast Barry Chuckle in the role and you'd never notice the difference.
 
Eccleston has already said he wont do it and his Thor 2 Commitment likely gets in the way aswell.

Id love to see him and DT back but if it was only DT i think id still be happy.

A good 2 doctor romp would be amazing.

3 Doctors would be fantastic but im not sure how well CE and DT would mesh. It could be horrible.
 
McGann/Ten-Inch/Smith is all you need for a multi-Doctor anniversary special. Eccles would be nice, but if he's not interested, that's all there is to it.
 
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ZombieFred

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If Eccleston's not available to reprise the Doctor, cast Barry Chuckle in the role and you'd never notice the difference.

Everybody knew that the Chuckle brothers were time lords in disguise so they are a best fit to make an apperance of the show.

What have you for reminding me of that show, damn you! :lol:
 
There's a number of "in the know" people on Gallifrey Base that say that (writer/basic plot spoiler)
Neil Gaiman is writing a script for the second half of Series 7 that involves a "Cybermen re-imagining".

These people have been accurate in the past, but don't hold your breath.
 
There's a number of "in the know" people on Gallifrey Base that say that (writer/basic plot spoiler)
Neil Gaiman is writing a script for the second half of Series 7 that involves a "Cybermen re-imagining".

These people have been accurate in the past, but don't hold your breath.

I think I recall him mentioning
wanting to do something with the Cybermen.
 

Tizoc

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Amy is hawt, and I have nothing against her, but I really think it's time to move onto a new companion.
Rory is one of the most badass companions, but much like Amy I think his time with 11 was well and enough.
 
Amy is hawt, and I have nothing against her, but I really think it's time to move onto a new companion.
Rory is one of the most badass companions, but much like Amy I think his time with 11 was well and enough.

I think they've had a really good run and are leaving at the right time. The show is told through the eyes of the companion so it's good to get a new perspective every so often.
 
I think they've had a really good run and are leaving at the right time. The show is told through the eyes of the companion so it's good to get a new perspective every so often.

I agree-it will be sad but they are leaving at the right time. It keeps the show fresh and they haven't worn out their welcome.
 
There's a number of "in the know" people on Gallifrey Base that say that (writer/basic plot spoiler)
Neil Gaiman is writing a script for the second half of Series 7 that involves a "Cybermen re-imagining".

These people have been accurate in the past, but don't hold your breath.

I just got goose bumps.
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
There's a number of "in the know" people on Gallifrey Base that say that (writer/basic plot spoiler)
Neil Gaiman is writing a script for the second half of Series 7 that involves a "Cybermen re-imagining".

These people have been accurate in the past, but don't hold your breath.

That would be sweet, the
Cybermen at this point are just Dalek episodes without having to use the Daleks, would be nice to see a more modern re-imagining to something more threatening.
 
That would be sweet, the
Cybermen at this point are just Dalek episodes without having to use the Daleks, would be nice to see a more modern re-imagining to something more threatening.

Except they suck.....
Cybermen are the worst. I can't think of the last time I liked an episode involving them. Hopefully Gaiman can fix them. I have faith.
 
Except they suck.....
Cybermen are the worst. I can't think of the last time I liked an episode involving them. Hopefully Gaiman can fix them. I have faith.

the premise of Cybermen is scary-they take your still living brain and stick it in a robot body-that's truly disturbing. The problem is the Cybermen LOOK silly.
 
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