Supermanisdead
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Xenoblade and P4 are both great, but lol if you think P4's dungeons are better than Xenoblade's. Hallways and doors. Endless hallways and doors. But P4 has a better combat system. They are tied, IMO.
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Persona 4 Golden review thread: The Highest Reviewed Game of All Time and The Future?
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No1curr.
This is about Persona 4 I mean that's why there's a sale I believe. lessor garbage games aren't welcome or on topic tbh
P4 you won't regret anything
Either one is amazing. The replies you're going to get are going to be largely opinionated and based upon the style of the two games. =P
Both are fantastic games if you haven't played them. My problem is that I've sunk over 300 hours into P3P over the past 12 months, or I'd play it again
I've been holding off from replaying P4 for such a long time in anticipation for P4G.
It's really up to you. Financially P3P is a smarter decision, but again, both are fantastic games , and you're right, playing P4G with the rest of GAF will be a blast!
Actually Chie held back! Not a single kick. That anime was pretty good
That happened? I dropped the anime, after a five or six episodes, but that warms my cold heart.
I don't think it really matter which you play first. It might feel like a bit of a downgrade going from P4G to P3P, due to P3P missing the anime cutscenes, overworld, and character sprites on screen during in-game cutscenes. Other than that, I see no issue is going back to P3 from P4.
P3P will be on sale again, I'm sure. Weren't all Persona games (or was it all Atlus games) on sale in July? Though I am picking up P3P now, and will replay it someday.
You missed some amazing episodes, including the TV broadcast finale.
Supermanisdead
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Get P3FES and P3P for 15$. Play FES first, then the girl's story of P3P.
DimmuBurgerKing
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Manmademan
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Go for 4. The portable version of 3 is the easiest version by a long shot, and cuts out a lot of the exploration in favor of point and click interaction.
Not a bad game by any stretch, but 4 is way, way better.
What a clusterfuck of a thread. What does Xenoblade have to do with P4G reviews? The blind ranting from both sides is childish as hell. Grow up and just enjoy video games without having to shit on another unrelated game.
Also, I would get P4G. It's the easiest Persona/SMT game to get into, and unlike P3P, it doesn't cut out content.
Also, I would get P4G. It's the easiest Persona/SMT game to get into, and unlike P3P, it doesn't cut out content.
Nope. Walking the city is not exploration, it's a chore.
It's a lot like a visual novel considering you spend the majority of your time reading/listening to dialogue and making dialogue choices. I mean, if they're trying to mesh gameplay and story the way a good RPG does, they do a really shitty job, so I don't think of it that way.
And the idea that Persona 4's randomly generated dungeons are interesting is hilarious. If you removed the wall and floor textures and music, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. That's not even an exaggeration. They are the exact opposite of unique. Dungeon design (or lack thereof) is Persona 3 and 4's biggest weakness. Xenoblade wins in that department just by actually having dungeons that were designed by human beings and not a random number generator.
This.
I dunno about you but I spent the majority of my time in dungeons when I played p4. Or fusing.
Just because there are aspects of a VN in the game doesn't make it a VN itself..
Also there are no randomly generated levels in the dungeons. There something like 4-5 preset floor layouts for each floor.
Just because there are aspects of a VN in the game doesn't make it a VN itself..
Also there are no randomly generated levels in the dungeons. There something like 4-5 preset floor layouts for each floor.
That's even worse, then. They're just corridors and sometimes there's a square room with a staircase or a chest in it. There's nothing else in them. I expect a computer to not be able to design an interesting level, but nothing designed by a human being should ever be that boring.
Nice scores. I enjoyed the game a lot (the original). I'm a bit surprised that a 4 years old game is the best thing ever though.
If you seriously want to discuss the possibility of it being the highest reviewed game of all time, you will have to take in mind there will be probably few reviews for this as it's a Vita game and as soon as someone gives it a 6 or 7 the average will crumble.
Another thread where people fight about which game was better or worse? I'm not totally cynical but it happens in every single thread now in here.
If you seriously want to discuss the possibility of it being the highest reviewed game of all time, you will have to take in mind there will be probably few reviews for this as it's a Vita game and as soon as someone gives it a 6 or 7 the average will crumble.
Another thread where people fight about which game was better or worse? I'm not totally cynical but it happens in every single thread now in here.
we.are.the.armada
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Do any of the megafans know why they made that design choice for the dungeons? I never did care for the design and tedium of the dungeons in any of the Persona games. It seems to fit the game I suppose, but I don't know why it is the way it is.
Can any of you articulate the reason?
Can any of you articulate the reason?
Floor layout isn't important in P4, though. It's just .. irrelevant. What do you want out of a floor layout, for it to spell something out? Lol
I'm joking, but also kinda serious. What are you missing out on? The gameplay is the interesting part.
i enjoy the sim aspect waaaaay better than the fighting. I want a persona universe game with out the supernatural stuff *.*
just go to school/around town and hang out ^-^
Well kinda like I said above, there really is no reason to have any important designs in the floor layouts. SOME dungeons do some interesting things,
Yukiko's square dungeon where it flips you around, finding the key for Naoto's laboratory, the 8-bit dungeon, etc
There's not any importance to exploring, aside from farming for chests, and how interesting does that actually have to be? Literally the only other thing I can think of for floor design is on
Nanako's
What would you guys want out of the floor design that would actually benefit the game?
platforming would be cool *O*
They would have to actually add another feature like this for floor design to be relevant. So if your point is that the dungeons themselves are stale (outside of the random encounter gameplay) then that's legitimate, however there's not much they can do without a major system change. But if you actually are more upset that the floor design is not random, then I really don't understand why.
im not upset about anything in the game. The game is perfect *O*
And here I thought the topic grew due to more reviews or at least some decent P4 discussion. But it seems Xenoblade nuts just need to market and force their game on everyone for the umpteenth time an unrelated thread. Neat.
Chie and Yu becoming an OP? No, not really. There were some hints, but I'd say Kanji and Naoto were the only sure-thing.
Anyways, the anime was pretty good. You should watch it.
Chie and Yu becoming an OP? No, not really. There were some hints, but I'd say Kanji and Naoto were the only sure-thing.
Anyways, the anime was pretty good. You should watch it.
There are so many other RPGs with dungeons that have actual things in them. Puzzles. Traps. Rooms that don't look identical to one another. I do appreciate the one-puzzle-per-two-dungeons-or-so they threw in there. There should be more of them. It's not like they have to completely revamp the entire idea of Persona to put some effort into designing dungeons.
Because there was nothing else to play on the Wii and no one bought it so I applaud them for the free promo.
If P4 ever had struggles id be doing the same tbh but luckily that will never happen
buddha0991
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like roto13 said in another topic, he is realizing that the persona fanbase is kind of screwed up lol
I dunno. I guess I personally feel like I don't want any more in there. I just like grinding through the floors.
Agree to disagree, I suppose.
Random elements? Like what?
random elements?
The Persona side were the ones who actually started it though. Doesn't really matter now I guess.
I still wish they would bring back the ability to use any weapon and different physical types. Yu using a revolver or doing Kung-Fu sounds fun. I still don't know why they removed that ability in P3P. It's one of the main reasons why I like P3FES more.
He might be talking about the guys getting lost in the dungeons. It was a nice little touch. Also random floors being pure dark (wasn't fan) or have more/none/golden/red shadows in it (was a fan since the tension of the Reaper showing up was great).
You get a bonus on some Tartarus floors (more exp or more frequent item drops) and sometimes you'd get a few set backs (starting in random spots w/o your party, pitch black floor).
Ohh yeah, that actually was a nice touch. Actually, you can randomly find some of your team members in the P4 dungeons, or the dog, heh, although it almost never happens.
Oh, didn't think about that either. Although you do get bonuses like that via the arcana cards after battle.
Cornbread78
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Ahh two more weeks before this is mine. I can't wait to play my first Persona ever.... I've heard nothign but great things thus far, so I hope it keeps me entertained for a long time coming.
Someone has to pay for this clusterfuck!
I have three main suspects in custody.
Supermanisdead
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Is there any way to split up your party and send them to fight and find shit? That was the best part of P3 dungeons.
The "The Highest Reviewed Game of All Time and The Future?" bit was added by a mod as a joke.
Originally the title was "Persona 4 Golden review thread - 2012's highest rated game?" which I think is actually possible, if unlikely.
Nope :/ They took that out. They also took out collision with your teammates, though, so you can't get clipped on them, and they can't also get intercepted by the enemies.
Here's a list of the various things that can happen. A lot of them are Persona 3 Portable only however.
Sadly, the floors on Persona 3 are too small and not randomized enough to make full use of them.
Yup. Exactly. Also...
.... I imagine it probably had to do with space concerns. They had to cut a LOT of corners in P3P to fit in that UMD, and that's one area that is easily cut.
I loved that feature too.
Lazy dungeon design, is all I can think of.
Would have been so much better to have substantial, unique dungeons modeled after the psyche of the character they represent. Like a crazy mash of events and locales from their lives, squeezed into this space. Rather than the exact same dungeons, with a different coat of paint.
Throw them in the T.V. for all their fuzziness, and show them the way of fuzzy logic!
elementalsin
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I'm actually semi ashamed to admit p3p was my first persona... but I'm absolutely hooked now. 2 more freaking weeks.... 2 more damnit!
:> I played P4 first, then P3P
Serious question:
A lot of hyperbole gets thrown around in positive reviews. Many reviewers will claim a sequel is great for first timers but in reality, plot-wise, it isnt. There's references to old games that are (sometimes) required to understand the context of a certain scene.
Is this going to be the same? Can a new person to the series jump in?
A lot of hyperbole gets thrown around in positive reviews. Many reviewers will claim a sequel is great for first timers but in reality, plot-wise, it isnt. There's references to old games that are (sometimes) required to understand the context of a certain scene.
Is this going to be the same? Can a new person to the series jump in?
Persona 4 was my first game in the series, and I was fine. There's an optional scene that has a vague reference to Persona 3's ending (but somehow doesn't really spoil it either), but it has no impact on the story. Previously playing Persona 3 isn't important; it's just a bit of fanservice. Let me tell you from experience that if you're going to enjoy Persona 4, you're going to enjoy it from start to finish regardless of whether you've played previous games in the series. It's very self-contained.