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[ARCHIVE UP] The Giant Bomb "We've Got A Wii U" Live Stream

Unless they did a paperclip trick, to eject the game mid-load, they presumably pressed the Eject button. Which should have sent an immediate signal to the console to say, "Hey, the disc is being ejected, don't try to load any more from it," and would have popped up an immediate error.

The Gamecube kicked up errors if you opened the lid mid-load (Animal Crossing was a weird exception, since the entire thing loaded into memory on boot). I think the Wii would do the same if you pressed Eject. (But I might be wrong about that.)

That's kind of interesting. It almost makes you think that an exploit could take advantage of the fact that it continues to try and read the disk after it has been removed and for quite some time.
 

MisterC20XX

Member
7+ hours and I was there for every second. Incredible job on the live stream, GB crew!

In regards to the Wii U, I think you saved me a few hundred bucks.

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Alex

Member
What song were they trying to make stick, that Nintendoland 8-bit theme?

Nintendo should run chiptunes for all their system music, I'm not much of a nostalgic dude, but I still love that shit.

I'm 10 minutes into the Zombi U quick look and it's better than everything on today's livestream combined.

Yeah, that's the one game I really thought did it all pretty well. It may not be some smooth, for everyone system seller, but it looked unique, used the hardware well and I dig on Rogue-likes so I'm curious to try it someday. If I'm not swamped, and things clean up (patch on firmware, better controller battery, maybe a deal) I could see getting the machine with Zombiu, Pikmin 3, Monster Hunter and Mario later next year.

A couple of days ago I lamented some of the, IMO, better third party games of this year (Xcom, Borderlands 2, Sleeping Dogs, etc) not getting any extra time to shine on this compared to the crop it actually got, but it may have been for the best. Something has to be either crazy rushed on the development kits or the hardware is outright worse than the PS3/360.
 

AniHawk

Member
Eh the Wii U will probably still end up outselling both the 360 and PS3 combined.

i don't even know where this comes from. there hasn't been an excitement for the console from within nintendo. i don't think other people are going to line up for it either.

the first year will make the 3ds's lifespan so far look nice and smooth.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
Since a lot of people seem uninformed about this,

The error at the end was because they took the game out mid-load so that they could hear the loading music loop, that wasn't a fault of the WiiU.

It still screams that the OS is half-baked.
 

see5harp

Member
I think a lot of these issues just cannot be fixed with patches. The OS can get faster if they optimize but the question is, without a full redesign how much can they actually accomplish. Patching can only get you so far when your underlying framework is extremely flawed. Time will tell if they can actually turn OS around.

They can turn things around. Ps3 was completely unusable as a modern video game machine and it only took a year or so to implement in game XMB. Nothing today seemed to be completely broken so hopefully that stuff is ironed out within the next few months.
 
Pretty depressing to read this stuff. If it was just 3rd party games being shit I'd be okay with it, as I'm all in for the exclusives, but OS problems etc is worrying.

This won't be anything other than a box I use to play Nintendo games - no social networking, media streaming etc - but still, it's sad that in 2012 Nintendo can't get it right.

I was okay with the shit hardware and the fact it's not a real next gen console but that was assuming everything else would be smooth.

If I didn't love Nintendo so much I'd really hate them.
 

PetrCobra

Member
I could live with the lazy-ass ports that I can play elsewhere, but the slow system with loading taking forever, with unintuitive badly designed interface all over the fucking place, and prone to freezing to top it all off? I damn well hope that Ninty will fix at least the majority of these annoying issues by the time I'll need a system to play my Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101 and MH3U on.

Jesus.

I mean, did PS360 have these kind of issues on launch? I know, it's better than waiting for an inevitable RROD but can't they put together a decent gaming system OS with all their software making experience?

EDIT:

They can turn things around. Ps3 was completely unusable as a modern video game machine and it only took a year or so to implement in game XMB. Nothing today seemed to be completely broken so hopefully that stuff is ironed out within the next few months.

Was it, really? I never owned one myself. Okay then. But still.

And I want Nintendo board of directors to bend over to apologise for one minute.
 

Zaph

Member
Really curious to know what effect, if any, will this showing have on MS/Sony's machines. Think they're re-evaluating their respective launch dates?
Guess this once again shows us why Nintendo can only trust themselves to produce games on their systems. Fuck those 3rd party companies.
Nah, I wouldn't be too hard on the third parties, I bet Nintendo fucked them on the dev units and non-final SDK.
 
I'm surprised Brad isn't more angry. At least Patrick has the option of giving the Wii U he bought to the office and keeping the one with his account on it himself. Brad is the one who is really fucked if he wants the user name he made.

Its because Brad didn't buy anything from the eshop so it stung a bit less (as losing all that stuff is still bad).

If he went into that like Patrick i would expect him to be just as pissed
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Eh the Wii U will probably still end up outselling both the 360 and PS3 combined. I blame blind Nintendo fanboys and casuals for Nintendo's laziness.

So you think the WiiU will sell 140,000,000+ units...
MS and Sony each have 70+ mil consoles to their credit

What the fuck are you smoking and "Pass dat shit!"?
 

StuBurns

Banned
They can turn things around. Ps3 was completely unusable as a modern video game machine and it only took a year or so to implement in game XMB. Nothing today seemed to be completely broken so hopefully that stuff is ironed out within the next few months.
Unstable how? It was fine. It had a crap library, but that's not being unstable.
 
Did a third party make the Wii-U OS?

I'm not denying that the OS is piss poor right now, but that doesn't change the fact that those companies are generally terrible when it comes to Nintendo consoles. But I'm not talking about the OS anyways, I was talking about the shitty ports.
 
It's launch day. Most things don't work right on launch day.

Heck, the Vita really had the smoothest launch of any connected device and even that had some problems with Near, etc.

Patches and firmware updates can fix most of those things. Sure, it should have been ironed out before launch, but breathe party people.

But yeah thisisneogaf.jpg.
 

B.O.O.M

Member
Since a lot of people seem uninformed about this,

The error at the end was because they took the game out mid-load so that they could hear the loading music loop, that wasn't a fault of the WiiU.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any other console does that. They just go to the OS.


Huh?! What are you even talking about? The Vita launch was actually pretty great. Rock solid hardware, some great games, solid OS and little to no major issues...

The Wii U on the other hand is a complete and utter diaster of a launch in quite literally every way possible. The Vita was a GOD-tier launch compared to this mess.

Exactly. I was just about to respond to that. Heck even the ports were great for the most part. I still play UMVC3.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
It's launch day. Most things don't work right on launch day.

Heck, the Vita really had the smoothest launch of any connected device and even that had some problems with Near, etc.

Patches and firmware updates can fix most of those things. Sure, it should have been ironed out before launch, but breathe party people.

But yeah thisisneogaf.jpg.

Pssst... First Impressions

Consumer Confidence

etc.
 
The bad ports is "fine" because if you are buying the system for those you are doing it wrong and that generally comes with the territory but the slow OS and general loading issues aren't.

In theory they can fix that as they have improved the 360 and PS3 interfaces and when games are better optimised for the system the load times should go down in theory.

But man not a good look. I'd be pissed right now if I bought one today.

I was gonna wait until maybe march to jump but now I;m waiting until at least E3 for the other two to be detailed before I strike.

I'll get one, hell I probably will get all 3 eventually but this won't bet he first unless they drop the big bombs next year.

They really needed a Mario64 here. I know NSMB sells but it's not a killer app especially since you just dropped one a month or two earlier...

Nintendo really fucked this up...like really bad.
 

kadotsu

Banned
After this stream I'm of the opinion that the OS is shit, the network is shit, the account management is shit, the dev toolkit (based on the ports) is probably shit and that I'll probably have to buy one because every Japanese publisher will flock to this region locked device.


Still think the controller is a neat idea, though.
 

Squire

Banned
Really curious to know what effect, if any, will this showing have on MS/Sony's machines. Think they're re-evaluating their respective launch dates?

No, I think it's full steam ahead! Everything rumored suggests they're both about to go HAM, too. Vita and Surface had mostly smooth launches; I think they're next-gen consoles are both gonna have really solid starts.
 
i don't even know where this comes from. there hasn't been an excitement for the console from within nintendo. i don't think other people are going to line up for it either.

the first year will make the 3ds's lifespan so far look nice and smooth.

I still think NSMBU will be enough to ride the console out into a very successful first year.

But when it has competition is when things get messy.
 

see5harp

Member
Was it, really? I never owned one myself. Okay then. But still.

And I want Nintendo board of directors to bend over to apologise for one minute.

Ps3 couldn't even check messages in game, rarely had invites, and the store was a straight website. I don't remember crazy long loads or any crashing but then again there weren't really apps besides the busted web browser and blu ray player.
 

zroid

Banned
I'll be honest, everything that happened today has really hemorrhaged my excitement for this thing, and while I'll admit I contemplated once or twice getting a refund, I want to play Nintendo Land and NSMBU too much. Miiverse, despite its issues, and Off TV play both are still compelling. So I'm sticking to my pre-order. At worst, it'll be my Nintendo game player, which is okay.

Either way, this console's in for a bumpy ride over the next few months, to say the least.
 

Bruno MB

Member
Wii U will definitely be a box that can only play Nintendo games. I still was fine with my Wii, instead of forcing me to buy another console just for Pikmin 3, Nintendo Land or New Super Mario Bros Wii U they should have released these games on Wii. Wii U launch (development) should have been postponed and hopefully it would have had better hardware though we can't even be sure of that.
 
How does the OS have a GIG available and still be so fucking slow? I wasn't around for PS3 launch and I know the PS3 was pretty barebones but the XMB has always been quick and easy to use for me and I can't imagine it being worse with less features. Nintendo's had six years to get this right and it seems completely rushed.

I'm 10 minutes into the Zombi U quick look and it's better than every game shown on today's livestream combined.

Faint praise indeed.
 
http://www.twitch.tv/giantbomb/b/341162921

4:44:00 in to hear the raging over accounts being tied to the initial system they were created on.

SINCE WHEN has it been ok to have ads playing before videos that prevent you from muting the sound or even lowering it? i got some shit ad that fucking wrecked my ears and woke up my neighbors and when i press mute on the player it doesn't mute the sound of the ad. such unbelievable bullshit.

fucking ASSHOLE marketers.

/rant

now to watch some funny
 
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