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Lightning Returns trailer

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Here, I found unedited footage when LR was unveiled:

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All according to the plan so far.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Don't be surprised if Square becomes a mere handheld and mobile port 3rd party in the future.

Along with the occasional MMO every 20 years.
 

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
I think Toriyama was completely mesmerised by Lightning when uttering those words. I bet he was thinking about her only, ha... what obsession!

I mean if he could just channel that passion in a proper way, he could have created something special. But it depends on skill too I guess, which I doubt he has.
 

LuuKyK

Member
This thread is a mess.

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I will not let this hatred affect my hype. But I have to say...

It is such pain to read through it. Each hate comments is a stab in my heart tbh, and will be remembered when the game launches.

But in the end I really don't care, because I know this is all fair based on the fact that the trailer does have its flaws, but I expected better from some of you (I'm not even surprised on some people comments though, based on the experience in the other FF threads lol), since the game is clearly FAR from launching, and I'm sure I will be experiencing an amazing game with a much better frame rate and the goddess being perfect as per.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Quite surprised they'd show footage from what is clearly an early build in a trailer. Realistically we know what the FFXIII engine can do visually already, so getting hung up on what the trailer looks like seems a bit silly.

That whole trailer looked uncharacteristically unpolished, from the cheap looking fonts to the VO, to the edit.
 
This thread is a mess.

imHWDktp1Kdom.gif


I will not let this hatred affect my hype. But I have to say...

It is such pain to read through it. Each hate comments is a stab in my heart tbh, and will be remembered when the game launches.

But in the end I really don't care, because I know this is all fair based on the fact that the trailer does have its flaws, but I expected better from some of you (I'm not even surprised on some people comments though, based on the experience in the other FF threads lol), since the game is clearly FAR from launching, and I'm sure I will be experiencing an amazing game with a much better frame rate and the goddess being perfect as per.

Wow, I feel sorry for you :lol:
 
I will not let this hatred affect my hype. But I have to say...

It is such pain to read through it. Each hate comments is a stab in my heart tbh, and will be remembered when the game launches.

But in the end I really don't care, because I know this is all fair based on the fact that the trailer does have its flaws, but I expected better from some of you (I'm not even surprised on some people comments though, based on the experience in the other FF threads lol), since the game is clearly FAR from launching, and I'm sure I will be experiencing an amazing game with a much better frame rate and the goddess being perfect as per.

Toriyama has a GAF account!
 

Skilletor

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This thread is a mess.

imHWDktp1Kdom.gif


I will not let this hatred affect my hype. But I have to say...

It is such pain to read through it. Each hate comments is a stab in my heart tbh, and will be remembered when the game launches.

But in the end I really don't care, because I know this is all fair based on the fact that the trailer does have its flaws, but I expected better from some of you (I'm not even surprised on some people comments though, based on the experience in the other FF threads lol), since the game is clearly FAR from launching, and I'm sure I will be experiencing an amazing game with a much better frame rate and the goddess being perfect as per.

I hope this is an ironic post.
 

h3ro

Member
This thread is a mess.

imHWDktp1Kdom.gif


I will not let this hatred affect my hype. But I have to say...

It is such pain to read through it. Each hate comments is a stab in my heart tbh, and will be remembered when the game launches.


But in the end I really don't care, because I know this is all fair based on the fact that the trailer does have its flaws, but I expected better from some of you (I'm not even surprised on some people comments though, based on the experience in the other FF threads lol), since the game is clearly FAR from launching, and I'm sure I will be experiencing an amazing game with a much better frame rate and the goddess being perfect as per.

It's just a videogame. It's ok bud, SE will be alright.
 

sublimit

Banned
I really don't understand all the hatred Toriyama gets.The man does what he does but it's Wada and Kitase that continue to greenlight all this XIII fiasco.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
It's pretty bad that Toriyama's obsession with Raitoningu looks worse than Itagaki's obsession with the DOA girls.
 
It's cool looking at SE trailers. In that trailer I see Advent Children Cloud and Riku from the deep dive trailer all thanks to the scene with the sunglasses. So awesome.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I really don't understand all the hatred Toriyama gets.The man does what he does but it's Wada and Kitase that continue to greenlight all this XIII fiasco.

There's Blood of Bahamut, Bahamut Lagoon, XIII series, X-2, Front Mission Evolved, Mindjack, Parasite Eve's 3rd twisted game, Dissidia character bastardization, etc.

I can go on and on really.
 

Despera

Banned
hmm... the battle system looks interesting actually. Lightning seems to have the ability to guard/evade with precision. I always considered selecting defensive actions from a list inefficient.

And the ATB gauge is drained slowly, allowing for more player actions. That's one way of compensating for the lack of party members, and I think reducing downtime in general is a good thing.

Who knows, a more focused approach and giving the player almost direct control over Lightning's actions might benefit the game.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
LuuKyK maybe you should take a break... it's a video game. People being critical shouldn't get you all worked up.
 
I really don't understand all the hatred Toriyama gets.The man does what he does but it's Wada and Kitase that continue to greenlight all this XIII fiasco.

I don't think Wada cares much (which is wrong), he is mainly interested in salvaging FFXIV and mobile games. Kitase greenlights Toriyama because Toriyama follows his "Interactive Movie RPG" philosophy.

This all is not a problem. The problem is the fact that a guy with mediocre writing skills gets to write a game scenario.
 
I really don't understand all the hatred Toriyama gets.The man does what he does but it's Wada and Kitase that continue to greenlight all this XIII fiasco.

He's an awful writter and an awful game director. It was fine when he was more restricted in the PSX era.

Remember all his crazy ideas for FF VII that were (thankfully) scrapped.

Also he ripped to pieces Aya Brea character, his work on 3rd Birthday should be never forgotten.
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
I don't think Wada cares much (which is wrong), he is mainly interested in salvaging FFXIV and mobile games. Kitase greenlights Toriyama because Toriyama follows his "Interactive Movie RPG" philosophy.

This all is not a problem. The problem is the fact that a guy with mediocre writing skills gets to write a game scenario.

....and for such a big and global brand that FF is.

That makes this whole thing even more unbelievable.
 

Juken

Member
I wonder if they are even capable of churning out multiple mainline FFs for current or even next gen consoles. I could see Wada making a series off of newer mainline FFs to save costs.

I think they have a huge opportunity once next gen begins. The two biggest problems this gen have been crystal tools and XIV's failure. These are the primary reasons for the XIII sequels imo. They still have plenty of talent and are financially healthy.

Once ARR is out (freeing up all their devs) and Luminous is up and running (avoiding the mistakes of crystal tools), I'm optimistic a next gen XV can begin a true return to form.
 

LiK

Member
I don't think Wada cares much (which is wrong), he is mainly interested in salvaging FFXIV and mobile games. Kitase greenlights Toriyama because Toriyama follows his "Interactive Movie RPG" philosophy.

This all is not a problem. The problem is the fact that a guy with mediocre writing skills gets to write a game scenario.

Yup, the FFXIII series has a great battle system, pretty art design, great music and fairly interesting lore. Too bad the dialogue, stories and characters are SHIT.
 

Skilletor

Member
He's an awful writter and an awful game director. It was fine when he was more restricted in the PSX era.

Remember all his crazy ideas for FF VII that were (thankfully) scrapped.

Also he ripped to pieces Aya Brea character, his work on 3rd Birthday should be never forgotten.

I'm not familar? Link or explanation, please? :)
 
I'm not familar? Link or explanation, please? :)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=460751

A translation from page 569 of the FFVII Ultimania Omega, in response to a question asking the developers about ideas they’d had that weren’t implemented in the game, highlights this disagreement:

Nojima: What I remember is the Honey Bee Inn. Toriyama (Motomu Toriyama, the director of FFX-2) was in charge of the Honey Bee Inn’s events, but at first what took place there was more extreme, and everyone was saying “That’s going too far.”

Kitase: Was it really that bad?

Nojima: Yeah… for example, Palmer would emerge from the inn saying “Well, that was refreshing~!” *laughing*

Kitase: Toriyama was always making weird, tricky little events like that that kept getting edited. For instance, there was once a scene on the station platform where Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie from AVALANCHE would face each other and try to combine into one.

Naoyoshi: Yeah, that’s right.

Kitase: When an event begins in FFVII, the other 2 party members separate themselves from Cloud’s avatar. Once the event finishes, the party recombines and Cloud is alone once more. It’s just the way the game’s set up, but Toriyama parodied that. The 3 members of AVALANCHE were like “Let’s do that too!” and do their best to combine together, but they just ended up running into each other and muttering “I guess we still don’t have enough practice.” *laughing*

Not only do we get proof that Motomu Toriyama was the most perverted of the bunch, but his desire to joke and break the fourth wall also resonates with the unused “We apologize, but the following contains material unsuitable for the general public” line from ONNA_4. Elements like the Mystery Panties and the stronger adult “showgirl” tones of the lobby are clearly aspects that Toriyama would have greenlit while others might not have been so keen.
 
So I rewatched it, and I think the cloth physics makes the outfit look great from the back :p

I noticed that too it looks pretty cool, since she has the sword on the back and is jumping from something it'd look like a butterfly or something from the back and maybe if you were standing in front of her as she was landing maybe alittle like batman.


I think it's pretty cool, we all know visually what the the engine is capable of visually so the video colors don't even bother me. It's a brown/greyish theme to it. This could be why SE didn't do towns this whole game could be a town. It's reminding me a lot of crisis core actually and that was fucking awesome.
 
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