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Rumor: Monster Hunter Franchise "Handheld" Exclusive for 3 Years on 3DS
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I need a plane ticket to Japan
clay_ghost
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They do play mh. I think its a Asian thing.
Other way around, now Capcom has full access to that Pokemon fanbase which was something they were not fully guaranteed when MH was not on the 3DS. No matter what anyone would say the numbers pokemon regularly pulls will always be attractive to any 3rd party and the chance to get a slice of that is more than enough incentive for Capcom to bring the series over (Especially when Capcom knows their own fanbase will move with the games).
Pokemon and DQ probably played a part in roping in MH to the 3DS as well, pooling the fanbase of DQ onto the 3DS as well would more than justify Capcom moving MH to the 3DS also. That's 2 giant fanbases they know have 100% access to as opposed to only partial access.
Also all 3 of them have spaced out their releases as well in order to prevent themselves from cannibalizing each other too much.
DQ7 for Feb
MH4 simply Summer (Which starts around May or August)
Pokemon X and Y for October
The 3DS numbers in Japan this year are going to be freakish.
Aquamarine
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Considering the state of Vita right now, I really don't think that a Monster Hunter release in 2014 will change much of Vita's prospects at all...just as MHFO didn't change the 360's failure in Japan.
As for MH on the Vita, it could go either way, honestly. Sony could legitimately decide to just swallow their losses with the Vita and give up in the system in 2014 to focus on the PS4.
Now it's 3DS, regardless of spinoffs.
There is a problem with comparing all of those titles, and Monster Hunter. The Monster Hunter series' main focus is grouping together and hunt monsters. That isn't possible when it is multiplatform, unless they use online, and the huge problem with that is the fact that Japan prefers local over online. None of the multiplatform titles you've listed requires has this focus. They don't need their userbase to be on a single platform.
ToyMachine228
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I've heard so much about the Monster Hunter franchise but haven't tried it yet for myself because I've yet to see a mainstream release from the franchise on a platform I'd play it on in North America. I don't play handhelds but I'd really like to play a Monster Hunter sometime. Would love to see a new entry on the next Xbox and/or PlayStation worldwide.
The Xbox 360 failed in Japan for similar, but decidedly different reasons than why Vita's failing right now. With that said, Monster Hunter Frontier and a hypothetical Monster Hunter Portable 4th are incredibly different in terms of importance. Monster Hunter's stomping ground is on handhelds. 360 is not a handheld. Monster Hunter rose to prominence due to local multiplayer gaming. Monster Hunter Frontier is an online-only game.
Smiles and Cries
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I still think Monster Hunter 4 comes out on Vita we should know by summer
I was doing the same for Wii U
I was doing the same for Wii U
Snowden's Secret
Banned
I'm in the same boat; I tried a demo of some PSP Monster Hunter but couldn't get around the controls but still had a little fun. I'm really excited about the one coming out on Wii U in a couple months and hope the game is good enough to warrant its status.
You are forgetting Tomodachi Collection 2 first-party from Sakamoto's division in Nintendo. The DS one sold like 3.5 million. This one is going to be huge.
Smiles and Cries
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this has a date?
grimshawish
Banned
I still think the clusterfuck will be completed by Final Fantasy somewhere.
Aquamarine
Member
Of course. But by the time the theoretical Portable 4th would come out for the Vita, the Vita will be in its third year.
And if it's still failing by that point, I don't see Sony continuing to support it.
Sega discontinued the Dreamcast 2 years and 4 months into its lifespan. The Vita is tracking below the Dreamcast in terms of sales...
That's why it might be too late.
lolwut
Never heard of that game before.
lol if i remember correctly Sony attempted to nuke the GCN launch with FF in Japan in the past.
If there was any doubt in peoples minds about Nintendo owning Japan im pretty sure that would erase it completely.
That would be the first time 1 console has had all 4 big RPG series as exclusives (Closest before was 3 with the PS2).
This is what happens when you have lolbrandloyalty.
Moral of the story: lolbrandloyalty
I just want the device with superior hardware to have a place in the market, even if it's smaller.
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with brand loyalty either. Look at all the people loyal to Valve/Steam, no one makes fun of them for that.
Aquamarine
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Never mind. I read it as "Tamagotchi Collection."
Sony is not SEGA.
that's not true, I do that!
You make worst posts than me.
Brand loyalty isn't bad, but when you have strong brand loyalty to say stuff like that is kinda ridiculous and comes off fanboyish.
Also, in that case, you can say this is karma to Sony for securing FF back in the PSX days, but that is just stupid to say.
Tomodachi Collection
It seems to be really popular in Japan.
Tomodachi
Well, I make fun of them for believing that PC is some magical platform where if every game was released on it they would all be successful. That has nothing to do with brand loyalty though.
Tomodachi Collection
Last known sales were 3.634 million, according to Famitsu/Enterbrain sales tracking.
chertipros
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He's talking about Tomodachi collection. A weird but very popular JP nintendo life sim game for the ds with Miis
Aquamarine
Member
Wow, I need to get some more sleep. Could have sworn I read "Tamagotchi Collection."
don't worry the Vita's not gonna die.
Valve is legit though. They haven't made any true fuck ups with the community despite not having any competition in the digital front. Except Half Life 3, where the hell is it?!
edit: iunno about the FF comparison back in the N64 era. Nintendo fucked themselves up with that one. Sony just strolled by and said "Don't mind if I do"
grimshawish
Banned
FFXV 5 year development for 3DS would be worth a laugh or two
Not to mention unlike SEGA, Sony have an alternative device to sell.
Vita has bigger dangers, namely retailers and just Sony staff losing interest in it.
Steam overall is getting left behind for Valve's 'other' interests. Which are neither concrete or adding any value to the customer (imo); I think they've gotten rather vain.
Also, what is Half Life 3?
Let me teach you how running a business works. You see, ideally your product will own the market and your competitors will fail miserably. You want a monopoly. Nintendo doesn't want the Vita to exist; Sony doesn't want the 3DS to exist. Et cetera et cetera.
Aquamarine
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I don't know how happy investors would be with Sony continuing to pour resources into a failed console in its third year, even IF there is the possibility of a Monster Hunter release on the system.
Regardless, there's just too many factors here to make any concrete conclusions here. I hope Sony is able to secure an exclusive Monster Hunter, and I hope it helps restart the console in Japan. A failed console is never a good thing.
The problem is your brand loyalty has turned you into a brand crusader, placing blame on a company that anyone else will tell you has NOTHING to do with the failures of your preferred brand's platform.
Sony continues to make television sets.
Sony's TV business hasn't been profitable in nearly 10 years.
They're a stubborn bunch.
grimshawish
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Aquamarine
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But on the other end, we have Kaz Hirai trying to shake up the old management and trimming the fat. He does seem to be dedicated to turning Sony around. Perhaps the Vita will be one of those casualties as Sony decides to push all of its resources into the PS4?
It's one of the many possibilities. I look forward to see how it all unfolds over the next couple of years.
Vita is one of the devices Kaz Hirai likely had a huge hand in. He's also said that gaming is one of the pillars of his plans for Sony. Conceding the entire dedicated handheld gaming market to Nintendo would go against that.
ArtHands
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SF 4 3D and UMvsC3 are actually more of Capcom dipping their feet into the new consoles.
SF4 3D sold over a million instantly and next you see Capcom announcing 3DS titles left and right (MH 3G, EX Troopers, AA/Layton etc) on top of their already announced 2 RE titles.
UMvsC3 flopped and you don't see anything other than SF x Tekken (which was the only other vita title announced prior launch). We also didn't hear anything regardin their 2 other vita titles.
Also, bear in mind that Capcom projected only 1.2 million sales for MH3G 3DS by March last year. The title ended up surpassing that target by a wide margin. Whether the MH outsell the PSP literation is an null point as indicated by their Wii U MH Ultimate plan, as well as the western release for MH3G.
Aquamarine
Member
That's true...I do see him trying to do all that he can to try and keep Vita alive. After all, if the Vita gets cancelled early, that will reflect badly on his abilities as CEO / his strategy in one of the "new pillars of Sony."
If Kaz's new strategy really starts to turn Sony around, I'm guessing that investors will be more lenient with the Vita's progress. We'll just have to wait and see.
KillerTravis
Banned
Yes this makes sense, I thought MH and Pokemon were going to be released too close from one another. There's two bombs between MH that will increase the 3DS userbase considerably DQ7 and Pokemon.
Lord_Byron28
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I highly doubt a main FF game will be released for 3DS just because the people in charge place cinematics above everything else.
It goes by friend collection in the west.
Smiles and Cries
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Killing Vita off without a proper attempt to revive could also send a bad message to third parties. While Sega and Sony are different companies, Sega lost a lot of good will with third parties after the way they treated the Saturn. The few third parties still investing in Vita likely wouldn't be too pleased if Sony officially abandoned the device before they were done with it.
There's also another thing at play here. It's becoming increasingly apparent that Japan doesn't want home consoles any more. The PS3, and Wii U's performance in Japan thus far indicates that. So if Sony wants the PlayStation brand to still remain relevant in their home country Vita is going to have to start living up to its name, and show some signs of life.
With all of that said, Vita is probably one of, if not the cheapest PlayStation Sony has made. It uses off the shelf materials rather than being built from years of expensive proprietary Sony R&D like the PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS3 were. Having not invested billions into the platform means Sony can cut their losses and not look entirely bad.
Come on really, the WiiU has barely been out for 2 months.
Based on that you could have said Japan did not want handhelds after the 3DS' initial slow start.
The 3DS didn't sell as poorly as the Wii U is at the moment. There's definitely a move away from consoles in Japan, but I think the time to save the Vita is well passed anyway. And pretty soon retailers will start making the decision for Sony so far as its survival, as some have already. (with reports of department stores in smaller towns/cities getting rid of their Vita section)
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