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Bayonetta 2 development video

"Do you want to touch me?" is one of Bayonetta's taunts.

P.S it never happens
unless you stink

Makes sense. Kick the shit out of Paradiso in Bayonetta. Not really anybody left, except for Inferno. Maybe I'll get to axe kick Queen Sheba into a black hole.

demonessl4i3d.jpg

This is a badass picture
 

Majukun

Member
Makes sense. Kick the shit out of Paradiso in Bayonetta. Not really anybody left, except for Inferno. Maybe I'll get to axe kick Queen Sheba into a black hole.

demonessl4i3d.jpg

well all the enemies in the video were undoubtedly from paradiso..so..maybe we will be against both paradiso and inferno.
 
This'll be fantastic. Not really a fan of the character bayo, but the enemy design is fantastic, and the graphics looked killer for a 60fps game on the original. This'll be a great technical showcase for the Wii U.
 

monome

Member
How crazy would it be if Nintendo bought platinum.

I begged for that way before the annoucement of a partnership.
Partnership is better.

Pg staff will beg to work on humpfier tech in a few years. I don't see Nintendo ever returning to the arms race.

Interesting scenario is PG gets financially better after the Konami/Nintendo deals, launches a successful new IP on PS720, yet comes back to WiiU for Bayo 3 late in the cycle, or for WiiU's successor.

I'm not betting on PG doing a Nintendo IP this gen.
From the look of it Kojima Prod offered them quite some space yet it wasn't always rosy.
Can't fathom Nintendo being easier to work with.

Would PG license their WiiU engine so that Nintendo can offer 1st/2nd party studios an easy path to building action games for their console?

Wii showed that RPGs can do good on aging hardware, I believe WiiU's hardware is strong enough to satisfy action gamers needs for the few coming years. especially if the WiiUmote proves to bring something to the table. "You want to touch me"
 

tkscz

Member
Fuckouttahere.

Nothing on the wii U bar bayonetta 2 appeals to me enough to buy the console. I don't like most Nintendo games and my third party needs are much better served elsewhere.

Will I play other games once or if i have a wii u? Of course but that doesn't change the fact that if it wasn't the only place to play the sequel to my top 5 fave game of all time I wouldn't of payed it the slightest attention, especially now the tons of stupid drawbacks the system has over it's competition, both current and future.

As it stands, I'm still buying Bayo 2 at launch but it will be a very long time before I have my own system to play it on. I fully intend to borrow a system off a friend for a month or so first.

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NG3: RE doesn't appeal to you at all? Have you even looked at whats on/will be on the WiiU before making this rant? Honest questions, I like to separate the ones who bitch for the sake of fanboyism, over those with actual complaints.
 
How crazy would it be if Nintendo bought platinum.

The arrangement they have now is better for everyone involved.

Kamiya, Inaba, etc. don't like having a strong corporate overlords dictating their every move and that is exactly what Nintendo is known for with their direct subsidiaries. They go in and micromanage every thing. There's stories of Retro, having proven themselves with three huge and critically loved games, having to speak to producers at Nintendo late at night via webcam to touch base every day on DKCR.

If Nintendo bought Platinum and everyone just left Platinum, they'd be left with nothing of value. If they bought Platinum and locked them in for years, they'd be unhappy and their output would suffer.

Either Platinum has to become happy working under a corporate structure that doesn't trust them to be independent or Nintendo has to change their culture to allow a developer like Platinum to thrive.

Or, you know, they could keep doing contract work for a company that needs their brand of credibility.
 

DaBoss

Member
The arrangement they have now is better for everyone involved.

Kamiya, Inaba, etc. don't like having a strong corporate overlords dictating their every move and that is exactly what Nintendo is known for with their direct subsidiaries. They go in and micromanage every thing. There's stories of Retro, having proven themselves with three huge and critically loved games, having to speak to producers at Nintendo late at night via webcam for to touch base every day on DKCR.

If Nintendo bought Platinum and everyone just left Platinum, they'd be left with nothing of value. If they bought Platinum and locked them in for years, they'd be unhappy and their output would suffer.

Either Platinum has to become happy working under a corporate structure that doesn't trust them to be independent or Nintendo has to change their culture to allow a developer like Platinum to thrive.

Or, you know, they could keep doing contract work for a company that needs their brand of credibility.
How do they work with Monolith Soft? I think Retro wouldn't be as good of an example due to the fact that they were involved with 2 pretty big IPs (Metroid, Donkey Kong Country). Monolith Soft has 3 teams, which Platinum has also, and they are based in Japan.

I'm not saying buying Platinum would be a good thing, I think their current partnership is good, but I'm inclined to believe they would do something similar to how they work with Monolith Soft.
 

Majukun

Member
Maybe under direct management and marketing from Nintendo their games will sell well. I mean what Nintendo did with Retro was amazing.

wasn't metro created by nintendo itself?

and anyway,nintendo changed metro heavily since its foundation...before it was a less productive team
 
The arrangement they have now is better for everyone involved.

Kamiya, Inaba, etc. don't like having a strong corporate overlords dictating their every move and that is exactly what Nintendo is known for with their direct subsidiaries. They go in and micromanage every thing. There's stories of Retro, having proven themselves with three huge and critically loved games, having to speak to producers at Nintendo late at night via webcam to touch base every day on DKCR.

If Nintendo bought Platinum and everyone just left Platinum, they'd be left with nothing of value. If they bought Platinum and locked them in for years, they'd be unhappy and their output would suffer.

Either Platinum has to become happy working under a corporate structure that doesn't trust them to be independent or Nintendo has to change their culture to allow a developer like Platinum to thrive.

Or, you know, they could keep doing contract work for a company that needs their brand of credibility.
Agreed, although nintendo's complete micromanagement seems much less for their japanese subsidiaries like Monolith
 
Kamiya, Inaba, etc. don't like having a strong corporate overlords dictating their every move and that is exactly what Nintendo is known for with their direct subsidiaries. They go in and micromanage every thing. There's stories of Retro, having proven themselves with three huge and critically loved games, having to speak to producers at Nintendo late at night via webcam to touch base every day on DKCR.

At the end of the day this is a good thing IMO. Because DKCR was an amazing game, and Retro is now likely entrusted with a new IP. Nintendo is probably a very strict, involved friend but in the long term they are certainly loyal which is great IMO.
 
Agreed, although nintendo's complete micromanagement seems much less for their japanese subsidiaries like Monolith

Curious. How was Nintendo's relationship with Retro Studios?

So much of the stuff that Kamiya has spearheaded will have trouble coming back to light because the rights belong to someone else. Everybody is excited for the next Zelda when I just want another Okami, which I'll probably never get.
 
R

Retro_

Unconfirmed Member
Makes sense. Kick the shit out of Paradiso in Bayonetta. Not really anybody left, except for Inferno. Maybe I'll get to axe kick Queen Sheba into a black hole.

That'd be weird if Bayonetta started offing her source of power

Like I think she's contractually obligated to kill angels lol

So I'm not sure how that'd work, let alone why


Maybe that sage in the trailer was a possible playable character whom we might take on Inferno with.

http://www.abload.de/img/demonessl4i3d.jpg[img][/QUOTE]

Where is this image from? I've seen it before so many times but never knew where it came from.

[quote="monome, post: 46839547"][B]I'm pretty sure her face is shown because they're still tweaking its appearance.[/B]

No way Bayo will star a different female protagonist (at least for most of the game) other than the titular character. nintendo paid for it.

and the blue theme is clearly a tribute to WiiU's color scheme.

The game could take place a long time after the first one if they bother finding a reason for that.

Talk of the larger scope gives me a boner.[/QUOTE]

Yeah probably. They could just want to make a bigger deal about the reveal of her new design than this type of video.

It's exciting though :)
 
That'd be weird if Bayonetta started offing her source of power

Like I think she's contractually obligated to kill angels lol

So I'm not sure how that'd work



Where is this image from? I've seen it before so many times but never knew where it came from.



Yeah probably. They could just want to make a bigger deal about the reveal of her new design than this type of video.

It's exciting though :)

What if we also get to play as a Lumen Sage? :D Also, that image was posted on platinum's official blog, I believe.
 
R

Retro_

Unconfirmed Member
What if we also get to play as a Lumen Sage? :D Also, that image was posted on platinum's official blog, I believe.

Yep

I edited my post to suggest that just as you posted lol

Better than living in constant fear that their next game would bankrupt them. So, I wouldn't mind.

I think they might mind though

Don't think they went independent just to end up working under another big company again
 
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NG3: RE doesn't appeal to you at all? Have you even looked at whats on/will be on the WiiU before making this rant? Honest questions, I like to separate the ones who bitch for the sake of fanboyism, over those with actual complaints.

NG3:RE is still fundamentally a broken game, by the very fact it is built upon NG3.

You are also kidding yourself if you don't think that it will be ported in someway to the HD twins/ Next gen sony and microsoft consoles. Its Hayashi's and Temcos bread and butter at this point.

Probably the main reason why they haven't announced rachel for RE yet. She is being saved for the sigma release.

As for look yes I am well aware of what is currently available on the system and what is in the pipeline. I am just not interested in most nintendo first party titles (although a new metriod prime could sway me).

There is just nothing that so far could make me buy the system in any kind of a timely fashion. My needs as of now are best served elsewhere, apart from this one game. I will not bitch its exclusive to the wii U because I greatly prefer it on the WiiU than non-existant, but im not going to buy the console for this one game. If Nintendo do buy platinum however, my hand will be forced, but honestly I hope that never happens, simply because that rules out possible PC versions of their amazing games.
 
I just realized, regardless of whether or not this witch is Bayonetta, she doesn't let the hair hang off of her sleeves. I kinda liked that. :(

Yep

I edited my post to suggest that just as you posted lol



I think they might mind though

Don't think they went independent just to end up working under another big company again

Here's hoping Light Speed is the next Zero Shift.
 
R

Retro_

Unconfirmed Member
I just realized, regardless of whether or not this witch is Bayonetta, she doesn't let the hair hang off of her sleeves. I kinda liked that. :(

Yeah she has actual sleeves now. Maybe she's no longer wearing her hair as a suit. Or atleast this character doesn't if it's not her.

Here's hoping Light Speed is the next Zero Shift.

Haha yeah

It'd be neat if it sped you up in real time rather than slowing everything down, to contrast it to Witch Time
 

Erethian

Member
Agreed, although nintendo's complete micromanagement seems much less for their japanese subsidiaries like Monolith

It wouldn't surprise me if part of that has to do with Monolith not only working on new IPs, but having a long history of output before they were even bought.

Whereas the micromanagement with Retro might have to do with them working on historic Nintendo IPs (Metroid, Donkey Kong) and remnants of when Nintendo first bought Retro for MP1 and had to go in and scrap a whole lot of titles they were working on because they weren't up to snuff.
 
Ehh, that kind of stuff turned me off too. I got it an year later for super cheap after people saying it's a great action game, but the forced sexiness was just weird.

This never bugged me, but maybe it's because the whole plotline is so forced and out there that it just fit blindly into place for me.

I honestly can forgive anyone who was turned off by the presentation thinking any old negative thing about the game. It's one of those games you might go into thinking it's one thing until you've put 5 or 6 hours into it in one sitting and realize it's something else.

Also, any chance we'll see a witch with an afro?

I like the cut of your jib.
 

Roo

Member
I just went through the first 15 pages of the Bayonetta Wii U exclusive thread again
God, tears everywhere :p
 
The PS3 and 360 gamers didn't buy it either.



I thought it hit over a million units on each system or something like that? Well, if that is the case, I am a little worried about the numbers for Bayonetta 2 then since I think action games such as Bayonetta appeal more to PS3 and X360 owners.
 
Chû Totoro;46839429 said:
The franchise could be dead by now if Nintendo wasn't pushing it on their system. Why don't all the Bayonetta fans are happy about this? I agree that if you're sure you won't like any of the other Wii U games it could be expensive for just one game but Wii U is clearly not the Wii and it will get way more multiplat games.

Also even if this is bad in you point of view, stop crying :

"they took our game"
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Speaking about the video, the bridge / metro area seems interesting. I really want to see gameplay with different parts of the game and new moves !



I guess it's like Silent Hill going exclusive to the new Steambox system and gamers who already invested so many hours and money into their system and games of choice will have to go out and buy a new system to experience that one game. I am glad that the franchise is still alive and it is one of my favorite games of all time, but I can understand the disappointment from fans because most of the previous owners will not get to play it unless they spend a lot of money. I was extremely disappointed when Valkyria Chronicles 2 was announced for PSP, but what can you do? Hopefully, we will see more sequels to Bayonetta in the future. It is so good.
 
I guess it's like Silent Hill going exclusive to the new Steambox system and gamers who already invested so many hours and money into their system and games of choice will have to go out and buy a new system to experience that one game. I am glad that the franchise is still alive and it is one of my favorite games of all time, but I can understand the disappointment from fans because most of the previous owners will not get to play it unless they spend a lot of money.

Then why isn't everyone up-in-arms about every next-gen exclusive game at the start of a generation? What if Bayonetta 2 had been Durangorbis exclusive, do you honestly think the vehement reaction this game's announcement received would be the same?
 
Then why isn't everyone up-in-arms about every next-gen exclusive game at the start of a generation? What if Bayonetta 2 had been Durangorbis exclusive, do you honestly think the vehement reaction this game's announcement received would be the same?


We would probably see similar reactions I think. If Bayonetta 2 was announced for a next generation console such as PS4, there would be a relatively high chance that the people who had no interest in the PS4 and were planning on procuring an X720 for Halo 5 and Gears of War 5 would be disappointed. Remember the reaction from fans when Virtua Fighter 4 went exclusive to Playstation 2? Yeah, it was pretty ugly.
 
I just play games

If I have to buy new hardware to play the games I want, well, sucks, but I own a Vita, so clearly I have no scruples.

No one ever said getting everything you want was inexpensive.
 
We would probably see similar reactions I think. If Bayonetta 2 was announced for a next generation console such as PS4, there would be a relatively high chance that the people who had no interest in the PS4 and were planning on procuring an X720 for Halo 5 and Gears of War 5 would be disappointed. Remember the reaction from fans when Virtua Fighter 4 went exclusive to Playstation 2? Yeah, it was pretty ugly.

What I mean is, if this was a next gen Sony/Microsoft game (both, not one) would people be as annoyed and have reacted as such, despite the cost? A large part of the reaction was the assumption that this would be the only game ever worth playing for certain people on Wii U, in my opinion.
 
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