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Rayman Legends coming to Xbox 360/PS3, all versions releasing in September
- Thread starter Nirolak
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I'm not sure if there are any more third party exclusives that could possibly go multiplat.
I think MonHun Ultimate might be the last one?
They get to report the sales of the game to their investors in one large lump.
Well you can't charge $60 for a game that would likely be $20-$30 on Wii U by then.
BruiserBear
Banned
This was a day one $60 purchase on the Wii U for me at the end of this month.
Now it's going to be a steeply discounted purchase in early 2014, because I know damn well I'm going to have a pile of new games to play come this fall.
Good job Ubi.
Now it's going to be a steeply discounted purchase in early 2014, because I know damn well I'm going to have a pile of new games to play come this fall.
Good job Ubi.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
Smaller marketing budget required i suppose. Only one campaign needed for the 3 consoles.
It's the only reason i can think of.
Snapshot King
Member
I am laughing so hard at this oh jeez. Fantastic encapsulation.
50K in the US in the first month for all three platforms, then its price dropped significantly. They could've easily sell 200K-300K on Wii U for full price and make more money, then release it on PS360 and earn even more.
I said it back then in this thread - that exclusivity thing was carefully worded. It would've come to Wii U exclusively, but only at Xmas 2012.
:lol
That is a completely different relationship.
I planned on getting it as a stopgap in the lull between PC games coming out, but now it's coming out when I have other games to be playing.
I have no reason to even look at it now until it hits the bomba bin at $10.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Like The Uplay one exploding right now?
mysteriousmage09
Member
Holy shit......
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Unless Nintendo is exceptionally bad at third party partnerships, there's no way Bayonetta 2 can go to other consoles. Isn't Nintendo the one funding development?
ShockingAlberto
Member
Reading the stuff from the investor call, it seems like Ubisoft delayed the Wii U version because they want other Nintendo properties to be on the system first (presumably increasing the install base).
This seems short-sighted and was something Sega once said when it delayed fully complete games on the 3DS that then ended up bombing.
This seems short-sighted and was something Sega once said when it delayed fully complete games on the 3DS that then ended up bombing.
Gold, hahaha.
Nintendo is publishing it IIRC. It's not going multiplatform.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
well here are some possibilities:
1) ubisoft actually has no idea how much their own game sold or what the platform make-up is. they are willing to pay cash for message board posters to give them this information.
2) ubisoft does know, and whatever private information they have contradicts the information you have.
3) ubisoft does know, and your information is entirely correct, but they have private projections that suggest something different about the economics of rayman legends to justify this decision, whether or not it ends up being correct in the end.
4) ubisoft is deliberately sabotaging their own company in an effort to take down nintendo on behalf of all the third parties of the world who hate nintendo for example nomura is a KNOWN sony fan boy and besides third parties said they wouldn't make games for gamecube because of the low install base but then the wii won and SURPRISE SURPRISE they changed their tune and by the way did you know that all those companies wouldn't have gone bankrupt if they made wii games i hate dudebro shooters for example but call of duty black ops 2 on wii u is a good game and
Disorientator
Member
Wonder when release date on Eshop gets updated.
Franchise sales and advertising budgets.
Yup and considering the Wii U is a barren wasteland right now it would be a perfect opportunity for them to make the best of it and release something.
Yeah I understand, I was just playing about
I'm still keeping my preorder for the time being, there's a long wait!
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Well, Microsoft published Ninja Gaiden 2 and that didn't stop Tecmo. But if Nintendo is actually the one paying for the game's development then it's a different story, I think.
I don't know all the details but people seem to be thinking that just because UBISOFT of all publishers is taking a game multiplatform, that the Wii U is entirely out of luck. These are completely different games.
I'm really curious just what the hell happened that caused all of this, or at the very least what Nintendo's stance is on this. As far as I'm aware, they were treating this particular title with an hell of an ounce of respect up to it's release, showing it on Directs and E3, and even undertaking publishing rights for Japan. Where the hell does that go from here?
This is just, wow. The more I think into this, the more I'm at a loss for words.
Publishing isn't the main deal so much as it is them bankrolling the entire development of the game.
This is just, wow. The more I think into this, the more I'm at a loss for words.
Publishing isn't the main deal so much as it is them bankrolling the entire development of the game.
Publishing doesn't mean it's locked down, the publishing rights could revert to Sega after a given period. However, it seems unlikely the PS3 and 360 will be viable for ports after whatever possible exclusive window is in the contract.
WrenchNinja
Member
Whoa hold on, are you asking someone if theyve played those game before judging them? So I take it youve finally played Ni No Kuni, Fire Emblem and P4G?
vasametropolis
Member
Wow they delayed the Wii U version just to release it alongside the others? What kind of nonsense is that?
This is a game that should have been multiplatform to begin with, but Ubi straight fucked everyone over with this. Nintendo should tell them to keep it... I'm getting a feeling it's going to sell horribly on that system come Fall. There's minimal competition in the first few months of the year and this would have still been the best time to launch the Nintendo version. Unless they've all of a sudden decided to add online to it, this is going to be a huge waste of everyone's time (particularly Wii U owners).
This is a game that should have been multiplatform to begin with, but Ubi straight fucked everyone over with this. Nintendo should tell them to keep it... I'm getting a feeling it's going to sell horribly on that system come Fall. There's minimal competition in the first few months of the year and this would have still been the best time to launch the Nintendo version. Unless they've all of a sudden decided to add online to it, this is going to be a huge waste of everyone's time (particularly Wii U owners).
Oh fuck, people are pissed in the Uplay miiverse right now.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
those publishing deals ain't what they used to be.
I got a $37 preorder. Maybe ill just find a buyer then and make $15.Yeah I understand, I was just playing about
I'm still keeping my preorder for the time being, there's a long wait!
whatsinaname
Member
September
On the flip side, glad I didn't buy the Wii U during the Costco sale.
Now release it for the Vita, Ubisoft.
On the flip side, glad I didn't buy the Wii U during the Costco sale.
Now release it for the Vita, Ubisoft.
I don't think that's been confirmed at all.
Any delightful samples to share?
5) they're throwing darts at a board like they do with just about every single title they release
Baconsammy
Banned
If Wii U fans are more interested in ports of old games than they are brand new ones, then perhaps Ubisoft made the right call.
Given the poor sales of third party games and the Wii U itself, where are you pulling the 300k number from? I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Ubisoft made their own informed projections, and today's announcement is a direct reflection of what they found out.
If the delay really is true for the Wii U version...
- I don't have a problem with it going multiplatform. In fact, it was hinted that it could happen someday.
- I don't have a problem with them wanting what's best for themselves, as a company.
What I don't get is that; in their pursuit of instant short-term success, they didn't do such a great job of assessing the pros & cons. Not to mention greatly dissapointing a lot of people in the process.
Ubisoft is simply looking at an instant short term success(potentially larger sales on release period), while ignoring the fact that this game had the attention of many Wii U owners right now, with potential to move consoles - something that can actually benefit them in the long term. The dry release schedule for Wii U was actually working out in Rayman's favor. All eyes were on Rayman this Spring. All eyes will NOT be on Rayman this Fall.
Now, on top of the new games that will be out for PS360 by/in September, Rayman will be sharing the spotlight game like other colorful Wii U games like Lego City, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101 and who knows what else.
After putting so much effort into the Wii U version, they just positioned themselves to (potentially) sell mucvh less Wii U games. Even if they recover some sales with the PS360 version, their take home from that experience won't be;
Perhaps we fumbled the Wii U Rayman release!"
but more like:
"Our games aren't selling well on Wii U, regardless of effort/quality"
Raman Legends, followed shortly by Pikmin 3 was planed as my first Wii U games. Now I have to form a new plan. By the time Rayman is out, I may be too preoccupied with other games to care. But who knows?! I just don't see this move working out as well as Ubisoft hopes.
- I don't have a problem with it going multiplatform. In fact, it was hinted that it could happen someday.
- I don't have a problem with them wanting what's best for themselves, as a company.
What I don't get is that; in their pursuit of instant short-term success, they didn't do such a great job of assessing the pros & cons. Not to mention greatly dissapointing a lot of people in the process.
Ubisoft is simply looking at an instant short term success(potentially larger sales on release period), while ignoring the fact that this game had the attention of many Wii U owners right now, with potential to move consoles - something that can actually benefit them in the long term. The dry release schedule for Wii U was actually working out in Rayman's favor. All eyes were on Rayman this Spring. All eyes will NOT be on Rayman this Fall.
Now, on top of the new games that will be out for PS360 by/in September, Rayman will be sharing the spotlight game like other colorful Wii U games like Lego City, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101 and who knows what else.
After putting so much effort into the Wii U version, they just positioned themselves to (potentially) sell mucvh less Wii U games. Even if they recover some sales with the PS360 version, their take home from that experience won't be;
Perhaps we fumbled the Wii U Rayman release!"
but more like:
"Our games aren't selling well on Wii U, regardless of effort/quality"
Raman Legends, followed shortly by Pikmin 3 was planed as my first Wii U games. Now I have to form a new plan. By the time Rayman is out, I may be too preoccupied with other games to care. But who knows?! I just don't see this move working out as well as Ubisoft hopes.
You know that companies not always make the right decisions...
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Its based on Owner, I dont know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (Im an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. Its not like it is in Kotaku where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw Kamiya in Japan, you bring shit to your mouth, and the only way to get rid of that shit is use your brain.
Even if you still remember most people will also remember to drop 60$ for GTA instead of Rayman. Or they'll just keep their cash for the new consoles. Bomba written all over this game.
DownWithTheShip
Member
Ubi Facebook page
Windwaker is a remake and I'm sure there will be a bunch of other games other than Windwaker that will be picked over Rayman.
They have been pushing hard on partnering it seems, and the indie support looks really good.
What Nintendo needs to do is go too third party's and be like "stop treating us like the ugly step child, and gives us the supports"
And pay them of course.