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[Painraze]

You guys really think they are going to give you gaikai WITHOUT an online subscription? really?

 

[Bulzeeb]

#FiveHundredandTwntyNineUSDollars #Bomba

Definitely won't be that expensive.

I won-t be that optimist, ps3 is still selling for $300, I suppose a new machine with twice the power will cost around $450+

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Seems like they're trying to squeeze too many different ideas into that controller. Reminds me of Homer's car.

 

[yellowjacket25]

I don't see it even being remotely plausible that we will have to pay to play online on the PS4. Sony isn't nearly that stupid. They will have an enhanced subscription service, but online multiplayer will be fine.

 

[Lambtron]

I'd be way more shocked if the Orbis or Durango were released at a price ending in anything but $x49 or $x99 than I would nearly anything else about launch. They're pretty serious mental hurdles to cross. Once you're between them, you may as well go up to the next level.

 

[gryz]

429 is too much. It needs to be $399 max. Also, practically forced paid service is a terrible idea.

you can't save an extra 30 dollars in the next 9 months?

 

[DaBoss]

Hundred dollar difference? Wonder what for.

What was the difference between the 2 SKUs for the PS3? All I remember is an HDD difference.

 

[Uno Venova]

This is amazing, the word online play wasn't even mentioned being a paid service.

 

[Baconsammy]

What if you don't want to make any noise?

Don't eat beans.

 

[Achtius]

If they charge for online, Playstation world better give us free games like PS+

 

[FourMyle]

FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

Lool if this pricing rumor turns out to be true then Sony must really love losing money. It will suck if they don't reveal pricing at the event and then we're left guessing until E3/who knows when.

 

[Spongebob]

If Sony also block used games and are always online, then this industry will crash.

They're probably including PSEye 2.0 in every box judging by this price.

 

[JABEE]

Sony can't charge for PSN right now because people would laugh. So if they're going to charge for it next gen, you have to think they have a pretty good reason for thinking people (non fanboys) will pay. Perhaps we'll hear about those reasons tomorrow.

People would laugh either way. It's asinine to charge for online and to gate apps like NetFlix that you already pay a subscription for. It is just as laughable right now for Live to charge.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Hundred dollar difference? Wonder what for.

1GB RAM USB stick, dummy.

 

[chubigans]

I don't see it even being remotely plausible that we will have to pay to play online on the PS4. Sony isn't nearly that stupid. They will have an enhanced subscription service, but online multiplayer will be fine.

I agree, especially since two of their platforms already does this.

 

[Maxrunner]

pay to play online really? who's going backwards now?

 

[Kun Aguero]

I can't see Sony being stupid enough to charge for normal online play. I also don't believe the pricing in this article.

 

[Liamario]

Triggers are a little concerning. There may be little resistance to them, so they are nicely balanced.

 

[UrbanRats]

They'll charge and we'll all pay. Me included.

No.
Never paid for Live nor PS+, most likely i won't pay for PSWorld either.

 

[TEH-CJ]

Holy shit guys

this is actually happening!

kind of serial feeling.

 

[Cmagus]

if they don't keep online gaming free on psn, i'm out.

Pretty much in the same boat. Xbox live turned me off so much I stopped even turning on the 360.I really hope this isn't true because I am only interested in the new Playstation console next gen if they blow this it will be the first time I won't be buying a console.

 

[Loudninja]

I don't think so. Playing MP will be free, but most of the other online features they offer won't (cloud saving, sharing recorded footage on Sony servers, BC streaming, the current PS+ bonuses etc).

Yeah same as the PS3.

 

[Meier]

Sony can't charge for PSN right now because people would laugh. So if they're going to charge for it next gen, you have to think they have a pretty good reason for thinking people (non fanboys) will pay. Perhaps we'll hear about those reasons tomorrow.

They can't charge now because it being free was touted at the beginning and it was a selling point that could help differentiate it from the 360. Unfortunately it's completely clear to everyone in the world that people are a-okay paying for online play thanks to the fact that XBL grew exponentially from last gen and at this point Sony would be stupid to not capitalize on that fact.

I think they'll keep the benefits of PS+ as well (nice deals, some free games, etc.) but if they don't charge for online play, they're not being run very well.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Kotaku looking for last minute hits before we finally get straight facts from Sony themselves and rumors like this won't be able to lure people to their site anymore.

 

[Proxy]

Be some bullshit if they start charging for online play or lock media options behind a pay wall. Then again this is Kotaku and I have serious doubts about their source. If he were a developer he would have no way of knowing the specifics of their pricing. I also doubt he would know the specifics of their online plan.

 

[SmokyDave]

$429/529 for a system which includes:

-7850 Level GPU
-8 tablet level CPU cores

Sony haven't learned their lesson and if they choose to go anti-used, then for me Sony can FUCK off.

If they choose to go anti-used, always online and £10 per month for 'Playstation World', I'm still gonna buy one. This generation has gone on for far too long. Fuck it, drop a 5850 in there, I'm still on board.

That goes for Durango too. I'll re-up my XBL sub at twice the price. Just someone, anyone, bring me next gen.

 

[Eusis]

"Playstation World" sounds like PS1, 2 and 3 BC to me. Probably through streaming though.

I've said it before, but PS1 streaming is profoundly stupid. Onlive bandwidth was about 2 GB per hour, the system seems to be extremely easy to emulate near-perfectly for Sony, and even as a subscription type thing they'd be better off just caching the game locally then cycling out when you move to something else. PS2 seems unlikely too, but that depends on how much of what they accomplished can be carried over to PS4, if not improved on PS4.

... PS3 though, yeah, that'd kind of need it.

 

[Kyoufu]

You guys really think they are going to give you gaikai WITHOUT an online subscription? really?

No? Nobody here has demanded Gaikai for free.

We don't want to pay to play online multiplayer.

 

[Iacobellis]

I won-t be that optimist, ps3 is still selling for $300, I suppose a new machine with twice the power will cost around $450+

The PS3 could easily be $200-$250 if the included hard drive was smaller and didn't come bundled with any extras.

 

[Haunted]

you can't save an extra 30 dollars in the next 9 months?

People have an absolute ceiling they won't go above, even if they theoretically could.

 

[PopeReal]

Can't wait till tomorrow. Going to be fun. If it launches around $450~500 I will probably wait till a bundle and price drop down the road.

 

[LastNac]

No.
Never paid for Live nor PS+, most likely i won't pay for PSWorld either.

Missed out.

 

[Spongebob]

$529 is dangerously close to $599, there is simply too much stigma associated with releasing a console with a price in the $500s.

 

[tusken77]

From the sounds of it, Online gaming is free but services like Gaikai's Cloud and PS+ features will not be. Sounds... reasonable?

Yep, online play remaining free. PlayStation World giving access to the Gaikai stuff. ie: the 'world' of PlayStation games. ie: backwards compatibility of sorts. That'd my guess.

 

[alr1ght]

And now the bad rumors start.

Hopefully the subscription just unlocks cloud saves and the rumored youtube integration.

 

[Sorral]

Holy crap, people need to slow down/calm down. @_@ We are less than 13 hours* until the announcement! Have some patience. :lol

ninja edit: *23 hours

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Kotaku looking for last minute hits before we finally get straight facts from Sony themselves and rumors like this won't be able to lure people to their site anymore.

hahaha yes!

Regardless, I simply can't see Sony charging for basic online MP play or services like Netflix/Amazon/etc.
If this 'PlayStation World' thing is real, it will be a premium service for things like streaming games, cross play, game/DLC discounts, etc., which is expected.
People just need to relax a bit.

 

[Sowee]

I can see where this is going. If sony charges for online, everyone will be ok with that because everything sony does is very acceptable.

 

[ironcreed]

$429 is fine, but I don't like the sound of $529.00. Also, I sure hope that I don't have to start paying to play online or I will start to sour on the whole deal.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

This is amazing, the word online play wasn't even mentioned being a paid service.

Maybe its for stuff like party chat, and ps home and all that not necasaily online play?

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

$429 for the turd pack, subscription for online, needs a phone/tablet? Welp, I'm out.

Charging for online play?

I'm out.

Yes, go flock to the... Wiiu..? To play the same games online for free! Also, the article highlights that SOME online features will be subscription based. Jump-to-conclusion-GAF never disappoints.

 

[AgentP]

I don't see how they can charge to play online and have two other console which do not. It is also a really big selling point for Sony,

 

[SlowRevolution]

Holy crap, people need to slow down/calm down. @_@ We are less than 13 hours until the announcement!

the hype train is going too fast to stop now

 

[Killthee]

Lol, underneath, running alongside the side of the controller, between R1 & R2 shaped like a sharks fin. Am I going mad and seeing things?

I think it's just the angle or maybe the bottom half uses a different material like rubber.

R2 doesn't look that different from the DS3 one. Guess the improvement is in the spring : /

 

[Cake Boss]

Calm the fuck down people, they said most, not all features will be paid sub, wait a day when you get the full details before the meltdowns.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

This is Kotaku anyway but even if this was true it doesn't mean online play won't be free still.

 

[Mr. Poolman]

Because it's one of the most iconic designs in gaming and they'd be completely crazy to alter it in any major way.

Iconic doesn't make it good.
Don't be so atached. Evolution is good.

 

[darkside31337]

Holy crap, people need to slow down/calm down. @_@ We are less than 13 hours until the announcement! Have some patience. :lol

6 PM dude.

 

[JABEE]

I see, we're almost there now, bad news are coming...

Source? What new information is coming?

 

[90TilInfinity]

Eh, don't believe this. Other insiders have said Sony wants to stick to just one SKU this holiday.

The single 500GB SKU rumour?