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[TheExodu5]

The controls in Uncharted 3 were extremely broken. I quit playing the game because it was not enjoyable in the least with all of that input lag. It certainly wasn't an issue in Uncharted 2. The gameplay was fine, though.

 

[keit4]

I wonder where you pulled that number from. These numbers are impossible and would require PS2, a dying console that has been discontinued, to have sold way more than the previous six months (Sony released combined numbers for PS3+PS2)

Yeah, i was wrong, i have mixed the numbers. Looks like both sold ~76M.

 

[noobasuar]

yes, the gameplay in Uncharted games was fine. You can call it shallow or linear but the gameplay was never broken. And I beat Uncharted 3 on hard before it was patched, the issue was overblown.

Well yeah it's hard to screw up a third person cover shooter. TLOU seems much more ambitious though and will probably be harder to pull off than standard third person cover shooting.

 

[Satchel]

Funny. Would we have been banned for calling the OP a fanboy had this info not come to light?

 

[SniperHunter]

Well yeah it's hard to screw up a third person cover shooter. TLOU seems much more ambitious though and will probably be harder to pull off than standard third person cover shooting.

I have no idea of what you are trying to say, are you saying that Naughty Dog is a deceptive company? Are you saying the E3 demo was all smoke and mirrors and no substance?

There have been plenty of shitty third person shooters this gen...

 

[uncharted86]

It's all fake

https://twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/311873472877969408

Where does that tweet say that it's all fake? In Secretarial Dog's original post with the info, which he posted in another TLoU thread, he had two clearly seperated sections of points. One section with points from his "source" (not credible most likely) and another section of points with info from the mag. In the OP in this thread it all got mixed together.

 

[noobasuar]

I have no idea of what you are trying to say, are you saying that Naughty Dog is a deceptive company? Are you saying the E3 demo was all smoke and mirrors and no substance?

There have been plenty of shitty third person shooters this gen...

Yeah I'm gonna say they are deceptive based on the control issues with UC3. And yes I'm starting to believe that the e3 demo was highly scripted. Also the fact the demo you get with GOW:A doesn't unlock until 10 days before the game is released makes me think that they're not confident in the game and are going to try to sell the game purely of promises.

 

[the mark]

M! Games is definitely trustworthy...so there's only one possible conclusion.

 

[Vorg]

Yeah, i was wrong, i have mixed the numbers. Looks like both sold ~76M.

Where are you getting your numbers?

 

[JJD]

Yeah I'm gonna say they are deceptive based on the control issues with UC3. And yes I'm starting to believe that the e3 demo was highly scripted. Also the fact the demo you get with GOW:A doesn't unlock until 10 days before the game is released makes me think that they're not confident in the game and are going to try to sell the game purely of promises.

Take off your fanboy glasses friend. This post is pretty ridiculous. You may not like ND games and that's fine but arguing that they are not confident on their game and are trying to sell it purely on promises is just plain stupid.

The reason the demo will unlock so late is to try to stop people from trading GOW:A.

If TLOU is anything like U 1, 2 and 3 it will be a success both commercially and critically.

 

[SniperHunter]

Yeah I'm gonna say they are deceptive based on the control issues with UC3. And yes I'm starting to believe that the e3 demo was highly scripted. Also the fact the demo you get with GOW:A doesn't unlock until 10 days before the game is released makes me think that they're not confident in the game and are going to try to sell the game purely of promises.

Please tell us how it was deceptive. I absolutely had no problems with the controls in Uncharted 3 before the patch, I got the game on release day and beat it soon after. Naughty Dog really doesn't have a history of lying to their fans or gamers in general. I am pretty sure their CEO said, Uncharted 3 was rushed and they announced the release date far too early, something they have avoided with The Last of Us.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

lol this took a turn for the funniest.

So was the magazine info confirmed legit?

 

[Lord Error]

lol this took a turn for the funniest.

So was the magazine info confirmed legit?

Not confirmed or denied, yet. The two pages posted don't have any of that info on them.

Isn't this the same company that shipped a game with broken controls and had to have GAF bitch them out before they acknowledged something was wrong?

They were absolutely not broken, but the aiming wasn't as intuitive as in UC2. All the other controls except for the aiming were fine as is.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Please tell us how it was deceptive. I absolutely had no problems with the controls in Uncharted 3 before the patch, I got the game on release day and beat it soon after. Naughty Dog really doesn't have a history of lying to their fans or gamers in general. I am pretty sure their CEO said, Uncharted 3 was rushed and they announced the release date far too early, something they have avoided with The Last of Us.

Do you prefer input lag? Does it make your games feel "weightier"?

 

[The_Hitcher89]

noobasuar's had a shocker these last 2 pages

 

[RoKKeR]

one guy made a stupid thread with fake info and now people are bashing an unreleased game and ps3 sales.

NeoGAF.gif

 

[JB1981]

Yeah I'm gonna say they are deceptive based on the control issues with UC3. And yes I'm starting to believe that the e3 demo was highly scripted. Also the fact the demo you get with GOW:A doesn't unlock until 10 days before the game is released makes me think that they're not confident in the game and are going to try to sell the game purely of promises.

LOL WOW dude.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

noobasuar's had a shocker these last 2 pages

it's really fun watching people grasping at straws at least.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Haha! I knew when I read the title and part of the OP last night it wasn't going to end well.

 

[SniperHunter]

Do you prefer input lag? Does it make your games feel "weightier"?

I didn't see any input lag in Uncharted 3....I beat the game on hard soon after release

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I didn't see any input lag in Uncharted 3....I beat the game on hard soon after release

I'm not asking about that, I'm asking if you like input lag and feel that it makes games feel weightier, in your opinion.

 

[SykoTech]

No more stupid ass Meta4 PS3 fanboy posts

thank you based mods

He can still post of course. But yeah, no more crazy threads. The silver lining of this thread.

Reminds me of when pramath got permabanned. Felt pretty good to not have to deal with a million Nintendo fanboy worship threads whenever I logged onto GAF.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

This thread haha

 

[SniperHunter]

I'm not asking about that, I'm asking if you like input lag and feel that it makes games feel weightier, in your opinion.

The only game I have played that had a lot of input lag was Killzone 2, and I felt it would have been a much better game without it....

 

[Deleted member 47027]

The only game I have played that had a lot of input lag was Killzone 2, and I felt it would have been a much better game without it....

Good to hear, good to hear. You're on the "sensible" side.

 

[Amir0x]

damn some of those ideas were really swell too. Back to being cautiously pessimistic as per Naughty Dog's game library so far I suppose until i am convinced the game is extremely challenging and has real tension.

 

[Dreamgazer]

Good to hear, good to hear. You're on the "sensible" side.

Are you just randomly picking people and ask if they like input lag?

Cause that's kinda creepy.

 

[Dr.Acula]

If you get junior'd, do you ever go back to being a member? How long does it take?

Life.

If you can even call it that

Well done.

Why punish the OP tho? He got fooled just like everyone else? Is it because of the thread title he used?

I think it's also frowned upon to make threads for other people -but this is a special case cause it's real news, and not shit like some celebrity GAFfer's question about discharge or something.

Article source is this thread

GAF->Internet->GAF

 

[JJD]

Are you just randomly picking people and ask if they like input lag?

Cause that's kinda creepy.

I for one loved KZ2 version of input lag, and hated U3 version of input lag! ;-)

 

[keit4]

Where are you getting your numbers?

Official sources (360/PS3).

 

[SniperHunter]

I for one loved KZ2 version of input lag, and hated U3 version of input lag! ;-)

The input lag in Killzone 2 is acceptable in the single player, since it's a slow and heavy shooter. But it's extremely annoying in the multiplayer.

 

[demolitio]

This thread has turned into another battleground in "The Console Wars".

I never really believed the original post considering anyone can come up with "sources". People are too quick to jump on shit they want to hear and immediately deny what they don't want to hear regardless of the credibility of each place making the rumors.

 

[sflufan]

But I kinda liked what I read in the original post

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Are you just randomly picking people and ask if they like input lag?

Cause that's kinda creepy.

Not randomly.

Spoiler

How do YOU feel about input lag, Dreamgazer?

 

[JJD]

The input lag in Killzone 2 is acceptable in the single player, since it's a slow and heavy shooter. But it's extremely annoying in the multiplayer.

KZ2 was one of the best MP on this generation IMO, right next to Bad Company 2.

I played it mostly at release, without the patch. I even got the 1% trophy. That game was glorious, controls were perfect for what Guerrilla was trying to do. Too bad they caved in to the pressure of addressing it.

They tried to address the fans complains again on KZ3 and turned the game pure trash.

IMO Guerrilla should have sticked to it's vision.

 

[RoKKeR]

Wait, meta got Junior'd? This thread, hot damn. Keeps getting better.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

But I kinda liked what I read in the original post

Eh me too. More mainstream games need some balls mechanically.

 

[SniperHunter]

KZ2 was one of the best MP on this generation IMO, right next to Bad Company 2.

I played it mostly at release, without the patch. I even got the 1% trophy. That game was glorious, controls were perfect for what Guerrilla was trying to do. Too bad they caved in to the pressure of addressing it.

They tried to address the fans complains again on KZ3 and turned the game pure trash.

IMO Guerrilla should have sticked to it's vision.

I put a lot of time into Killzone 2 as well, but I got my PS3 in March 2010 or so. It had a bunch of problems though....the frame rate was too low in 32 player games, the input lag made it worse and some of the map design was questionable. Also, those spawn beacons led to intense spawn camping, that made rounds really one sided at times.

 

[Superflat]

All my hype chips, where'd they go!?

Spoiler

Nah, they're still all sitting on TLoU, I'm still pretty excited

Bah, that's a bummer though since I'd trust ND to get these (fake) mechanics to work together well but it all did sound too good to be true. Good to hear that the input lag was BS at least.

 

[Dr.Acula]

What happens if the game comes out and has input lag?

 

[JJD]

I put a lot of time into Killzone 2 as well, but I got my PS3 in March 2010 or so. It had a bunch of problems though....the frame rate was too low in 32 player games, the input lag made it worse and some of the map design was questionable. Also, those spawn beacons led to intense spawn camping, that made rounds really one sided at times.

You played the game almost a year after release right? It was after the patch that ruined everything trying to make the game feel right to COD fans.

As I said the game felt great to me on release, I never noticed framerate issues.

The game really shined on clan vs. clan games. I never played many pub games but yeah, things could get a little loopsided with spawn trapping (lol Radec Academy!), but as I said I played mainly clan vs. clan were tactics like that didn't work at all due to the high lvl. of skill of all the players involved.

All maps were good to high lvl. play IMO.

Considering KZ2 MP director is back at Guerrilla I have high hopes for Shadowfall!!! =D

 

[eighty(one)]

M! Games is definitely trustworthy...so there's only one possible conclusion.

April Fools information/issue?

 

[SniperHunter]

You played the game almost a year after release right? It was after the patch that ruined everything trying to make the game feel right to COD fans.

As I said the game felt great to me on release, I never noticed framerate issues.

The game really shined on clan vs. clan games. I never played many pub games but yeah, things could get a little loopsided with spawn trapping (lol Radec Academy!), but as I said I played mainly clan vs. clan were tactics like that didn't work at all due to the high lvl. of skill of all the players involved.

All maps were good to high lvl. play IMO.

Considering KZ2 MP director is back at Guerrilla I have high hopes for Shadowfall!!! =D

yea the game was patched up by the time I played it...even Jett says KZ2 beta was amazing, so I will take your word for it.

 

[the mark]

April Fools information/issue?

The information from the "source that played the game" must be wrong.
Just in case that wasn't a joke.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

What happens if the game comes out and has input lag?

Probably a rash of mostly disingenuous threads saying input lag is the worst/best thing ever with a lot of replies from everyone else saying that it's not the worst/best thing ever. Someone will find some studies from the air force about reaction time and try to prove that it's objectively the worst/best thing ever. Cats and dogs will be making out in the streets, and the rest of us will just judge the game as a whole instead of focusing in on one aspect of it like some obsessed savant.

 

[Messofanego]

damn some of those ideas were really swell too. Back to being cautiously pessimistic as per Naughty Dog's game library so far I suppose until i am convinced the game is extremely challenging and has real tension.

But I kinda liked what I read in the original post

Eh me too. More mainstream games need some balls mechanically.

Have you played I Am Alive?

Flawed but mechanically interesting post-apoc survival game.

 

[CadetMahoney]

It's all fake.

No more stupid ass Meta4 PS3 fanboy posts, thank you based mods

Yea. ppl like Meta just need to chill out for a bit.

 

[MThanded]

dat thread title.

 

[Amir0x]

Have you played I Am Alive?

Flawed but mechanically interesting post-apoc survival game.

no, actually! Thanks for the recommendation... I actually avoided it because it seemed like vaporware for so long and then just suddenly came out so in my mind I thought that meant development was really rocky.

I'll give it a shot sometime

 

[Dr.Acula]

Probably a rash of mostly disingenuous threads saying input lag is the worst/best thing ever with a lot of replies from everyone else saying that it's not the worst/best thing ever. Someone will find some studies from the air force about reaction time and try to prove that it's objectively the worst/best thing ever. Cats and dogs will be making out in the streets, and the rest of us will just judge the game as a whole instead of focusing in on one aspect of it like some obsessed savant.

I meant to meta4.