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The Last Of Us - Off screen footage from PAX East
- Thread starter Loudninja
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First: you trying to judge this game from some video of a prealpha I imagine; opinable to have an idea of what do you talking about. Secondly: HDR & procedural shader are present in every console game? Lol wat? Uh on console? Absolutely no, the hell do you are talking about? Procedural shader are quite limited compared ND engine & just lately Ubi has tried something but not at the same level. & about HDR, Ue3 not use HDR, Rage engine (aka GTA/RDR) not use, never will use (GTA V), probably only the cryengine use it. HDR it's a rarety except for some ps3 exclusive, are you sure to know so much? About poor geometry probably you don't know anything but ND game use one of the most higher number of polygons in their character, the fact you can't perceive it, it's your fault. I doubt they have pared back something compared uncharted 3. In any case, you are trying to pass your impression like a tech analysis, I assure to you ND hardly fails from this point of views. I can concur just for the texture, but probably because it use I guess trilinear filter.
Dictator93
Member
uh.... UE3 has HDR built into its lighting.
I am pretty sure you cannot render without it actually.
Agreed! Arne you're alright.
HocusPocus
Member
Well I don't really feel like being trained to like something new. I kind of new what I wanted going in. Looks different than that. Oh well there's still time to fix it.
I respond to what I can or have answers to. what am I missing?
Now if you actually looked around and not jumped to a simple conclusion, you would know human interaction is as big, if not bigger, than the infected interaction and they are also very deadly.
These infected are way different and worse than your traditional zombies ( like 1 hit kill) and the way you play this game is different, stealth, cautious punish rambo style.
What? Sorry I don't read every page of every Last of Us thread in NeoGAF. I saw the new footage. The last footage I saw was the E3 reveal. I didn't think it would be a zombie game. Stop getting emotinally attached to games, there's nothing nefarious about my statement.
It's a news to me. UE3 use HDR? I don't know until now, but I'm not that sure if is it exactly a 'proper' HDR.
it's penance for talking all sorts of shit about gaffers on gametrailers.
I didn't do that.fuzzyreactor
Banned
Seriously, the first thing ever shown of the game hinted at the stuff we are seeing in these gameplay videos, not of The Road-esque post-apocalyptic struggle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGXGlI21uHU
SniperHunter
Banned
Yes good point, I totally forgot about the pacing issues.
You should read some coverage too. We've always said it's about what humans are like when faced with the third party stressor of something very dangerous and unknown - the infected. This has happened to some degree historically with plagues and other diseases that humans at the time had little or no understanding of. So, there's this terrible third party threat that destroyed civilization. We have to also show you why this third party threat is so, we, threatening that it makes the survivors make all these interesting choices.
It is truly bad luck that you only saw the one section of the game in the past year that only had humans, because all five or so trailers and several demo videos that have been put out reveal the infected, lol
But you oughta look/read more before you post a reductive comment, ya know?
??? zombies were in the very first trailer footage of TLOU
arne please print this out and post it in your cube
as our mission statement that we should only stick to make the same old dudebro shooters?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
WE'RE NOT SURVIVAL HORROR! *kills self*
Seriously we aren't, and if you treat this game as an action game or a survival horror game, rather than let the game teach you the "new" mechanics of this "new" genre, it game will be more difficult in an unsatisfying way. The game will teach you to think about combat differently, hard to do in a 30min+ demo, but that's a lot of what you see with the repeated deaths. The moment I tell someone - dont fall back to genre conventions for gameplay mechnaics, people start being far more successful in combat for this demo.
Listen mode is mapped to a button. Don't use it if you hate it, but it's not a massive advantage. You can't see things from across the map, only if they are making some sound, slows you down, etc. It will be a give and take. But if you hate it, and you want to be all hardcore, don't hit the button. You do have some self control right?
I see. If that is the case then would I be wrong if I played the game too conservatively?
Actually now that you mention it I do see some dangers in playing it too conservatively. The clickers look difficult to melee and the one shot kill perhaps tells us we should sneak behind or shoot them. Exploring could also lead you to more clickers which could cost you your life. I can understand what your saying now.
The listen mode only shows you enemies that make sound. So that would mean just clickers right? Would a human enemy walking create enough sound to be seen in LM?
The problem I have with LM is that you "see" what your supposedly listening too. I thought it would be a mode where the environmental sounds are amplified.
Nevertheless, I can assure I will be playing the game without using listen mode because I like my survival games as hard as possible
On that note are you guys going to have a hardcore mode, because I remember some talk about it. If so what would be the changes in hardcore mode?
Thanks for answering some questions and clearing up any misconceptions.
The Last of Us and Tales of Xillia are by far my most anticipated games this year and I cannot wait to play them after my exams have finished.
Playing solely against humans is boring as hell nowadays, having any creatures, even zombies, is great for any game.
These infected are kinda new which is awesome ( well the clickers anyway) so its great to see other enemies that make you change how you play.
Need more creatures in games.
These infected are kinda new which is awesome ( well the clickers anyway) so its great to see other enemies that make you change how you play.
Need more creatures in games.
Metalmurphy
Member
It's sad that you have to lie about it though, maybe you need to stop getting emotionally attached to games.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33369502&postcount=2244
That's the VGA reveal thread, the very first time the game is shown, and there's "zombies" as the main focus.
I thought that was just a crazy woman with a mushroom hat
as our mission statement that we should only stick to make the same old dudebro shooters?
Please make mushroom hat an unlockable costume for ellie
The you can't be tricked, bullied or baited into answering something you do not want to or can not disclose.
Playing this game as the first wave of Media in was terrible. You NEED to take this game at a slow pace. People were getting pissed, believe it. The game was so broken, I died 3 times just falling through the floor, and about 7 times hoping up onto a ledge and automatically getting clipped through the wall and dying.
Got my T-Shirt and that's all I care about.
Got my T-Shirt and that's all I care about.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
I`m not impressed with the graphics to be honest. Those are a little bit overated if you ask me. Especially the textures are not that hot and look very low res to me.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Make a HUD that doesn't look like a shitty Facebook game. The old E3 HUD is a good starting point. Thanks.
So you never saw the first trailer?
ouch
Haha got him.
Uno Venova
Banned
damn
Waited close to 3 hrs to play this yesterday, but it was worth it. I was surprised that it was pre alpha though.
Somebody mentioned earlier in the thread about the scarcity of ammo in the game. During the demo, I was shooting an infected and heard the empty click of the gun, panicked, and had to run and find a metal pipe as the thing was chasing me. I haven't felt tension like that in a video game.
Somebody mentioned earlier in the thread about the scarcity of ammo in the game. During the demo, I was shooting an infected and heard the empty click of the gun, panicked, and had to run and find a metal pipe as the thing was chasing me. I haven't felt tension like that in a video game.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
I wonder Arne, was this how aiming originally looked like?
Just something I've always wondered since the time I saw that screenshot last year. Since we got you here I figure I would ask.
got to say, i do prefer this FOV
Miles Quaritch
Member
Some more footage,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CWpLyUe1y8
Points towards the game not being built around listen mode, but can't say with any certainty until the game is actually, but this footage is encouraging. I don't like the death cut scene triggering when a clicker gets too close, I hope that's removed/replaced as the hitbox for it triggering is pretty big.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CWpLyUe1y8
Points towards the game not being built around listen mode, but can't say with any certainty until the game is actually, but this footage is encouraging. I don't like the death cut scene triggering when a clicker gets too close, I hope that's removed/replaced as the hitbox for it triggering is pretty big.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
it's ok if you did, no one would blame youit's penance for talking all sorts of shit about gaffers on gametrailers.
lolool
I wonder Arne, was this how aiming originally looked like?
Just something I've always wondered since the time I saw that screenshot last year. Since we got you here I figure I would ask.
Wow, props for noticing this.
I would assume that it may have do with granting the player a wider field of view. This is the kind of adjustment that would be born of play-testing.
SniperHunter
Banned
hahaha own3d
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It will be that as well, I'm pretty sure...
I was going to let you off with your "misremembering" of what you've said previously, but the snipe was a mistake. Sorry.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
LOL. Just stop, you're not helping your cause.
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@arne: Anything you can tell us about the tech of the indirect shadows? That's the one thing this game has over all others. Pleeeeease
LOL. Just stop, you're not helping your cause.
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@arne: Anything you can tell us about the tech of the indirect shadows? That's the one thing this game has over all others. Pleeeeease
Imperfect shadow maps. I didn't even know this existed before I saw it in this game (E3 demo). Not everything uses this, however.
It's dangerous to filter posts, but I know two guys that played it and they both thought it was the best thing at the show.
(And one of the PlayerOne Podcast hosts said he "loved it." and getting the sponge brick for completing the demo.)
Are there impressions of people that played it that really didn't like it?
I don't feel like reading every post in this thread as it mainly revolves around the listen mode.
I always thought it was a neat picture, makes it seem like you can aim with the actual sight of the gun instead of a floating reticule. But I have no idea if it was ever actual gameplay, and if it was how it affected gameplay.
well, what happened to him?? for lying?
anyways, this game looks great, and as a person who never played uncharted, it looks really interesting and will pick it up.
It's the same IGN footage spliced together.