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David Hayter not reprising his role as Snake in Metal Gear Solid 5? Statement
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Night_Trekker
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This is such bullshit :/
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
I'd be upset if he was gone, I don't really think he's as bad as people make him out to be. He always did a pretty good job, although hammed it up a little bit from MGS3 onward IMO.
For them to do it cold shoulder like that is pretty disrespectful. I can see why the voice of Solid Snake for a decade and a half would be a little salty.
With that said, I'm also open for change and it makes sense they would change BB's voice around this time. I look forward to seeing what happens.
For them to do it cold shoulder like that is pretty disrespectful. I can see why the voice of Solid Snake for a decade and a half would be a little salty.
With that said, I'm also open for change and it makes sense they would change BB's voice around this time. I look forward to seeing what happens.
MeBecomingI
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Yeah, I don't think this is a ruse; that statement seemed pretty sincere to me. I think it is a pretty stupid decision to not have Hayter be a part of a new Metal Gear Solid game and that is brutal. It really won't be the same game or even franchise to be honest without hearing Hayter. "Can you read me?" No, not anymore...
Really taints some of my excitement for the game and even Kojima, to a degree.
Really taints some of my excitement for the game and even Kojima, to a degree.
sixteen-bit
Member
Hayter's Snake has bordered on self-parody for years. Good riddance.
The Alchemist Penguin
Member
I thought this was a stunt until the Twitter post this morning, now I'm starting to believe it is genuine. 
It just won't be the same without him as Snake.
It just won't be the same without him as Snake.Dick Justice
Banned
Yeah, Hayter should stay classy. Not the people who dumped him from the franchise for no good reason (and before you start spraying shit from your mouth, no, his later performances weren't terrible. Not as good as MGS1, sure, but not terrible).
brandonh83
Banned
I'd be legitimately shocked if it were a prank. People are just in denial at this point.
Thaedolus
Member
His later performances weren't anywhere close to his original performance. Doesn't matter if you're talking MGS2, 3, 4 or TTS. None were as good as the original. He needs to hang up his cleats like a retiring athlete.
I dunno, this seems right up the alley of some clever bullcrap Kojima would try and pull though.
Dick Justice
Banned
Notice how I said that his later performances weren't as good as his one in the original.
-Plasma Reus-
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This had more to do with Kojima getting rid of Blaustein more than anything else.
Takamura-San
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1. He wasn't dumped. He wasn't working full time or with a contract for all MGS games.
2. It is my opinion that he was terrible post MGS1, you can call it shit or all you want, but it is not a single opinion but one that very much shared by plenty of people here.
3. Stay classy Hayter.
If they don't want you back, you say thank you for the opportunity and move on. You don't go public trying to get a mob of people to change people's minds.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Hayter is Snake to me. The Japanese are keeping their Snake but we're not.
No sale. Snake is dead.
No sale. Snake is dead.
This is exactly why I think this is all just a ruse. Hayter's normally classier than that, and if he actually didn't get brought back for the role I'd assume they'd actually give him a reason why given that he's been a part of the franchise for 15 years.
Takamura-San
Member
If it is a ruse (i doubt it, but still possible) I would like the option to play with the JP track.
Viola of the Abyss
Member
Sad... so sad...
It won't be the same without him.
It won't be the same without him.
For not liking Hayter you should only be allowed to buy a version of the game that only has the Italian dub.
Dick Justice
Banned
1. He wasn't dumped. He wasn't working full time or with a contract for all MGS games.
2. It is my opinion that he was terrible post MGS1, you can call it shit or all you want, but it is not a single opinion but one that very much shared by plenty of people here.
3. Stay classy Hayter.
If they don't want you back, you say thank you for the opportunity and move on. You don't go public trying to get a mob of people to change people's minds.
1) So you're arguing semantics now? He's been a part of the series for 15 years. So yes, he was dumped for this one if they suddenly decided to replace him with someone else.
2) Your opinion, as you said. But the amount of people who share it doesn't make it anymore valid.
3) So because he was trying to persuade Konami to give him the role, that automatically makes him an asshole? Wow. Guess what? People get attached to things. He played the main character(s) in this series for so long. You're really trying to tell me you'd just accept it so readily if you were in his shoes? I doubt it.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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I'm not exactly sure how Hayter isn't staying classy. He isn't calling Kojima or Konami a bunch of cunts for robbing him of the role that HE helped define. And he wouldn't be wrong in calling them out on their shit either.
The Anti-Hayter brigade is getting retarded more than anything. I don't see how bringing someone who doesn't have any sort of attachment to the series would bring anything to the role. It would be just another paycheck to them. Nothing else.
The Anti-Hayter brigade is getting retarded more than anything. I don't see how bringing someone who doesn't have any sort of attachment to the series would bring anything to the role. It would be just another paycheck to them. Nothing else.
Oh come on, the guy's practically throwing a hissy fit. It's a matter of professionalism.
All the more reason to think it might be a ruse though I think. I wouldn't expect someone as experienced in the industry as he is to act this way over something like this.
That poll is so awful now that we know that at that point he knew he wasn't in the game. Surprised he didn't openly whine about it when he heard about the news back in december. He always whine on twitter about how some script he wrote has not been used or got rejected.
The Omega Man
Member
You've conditioned to not believe anything anymore, even with Kojima himself saying Hayter is not voicing Snake/Boss this time, even when Hayter said he is not voicing Boss/Snake and he wasn't even asked to do it.
What's so clever about lying about Hayter replacing his role? so Kojima is going to announce in afew months that Hayter is back? or he just hired Keifer Sutherland to voice the trailers but when we plays the game The Bosse's voice is going to be Hayter's and we all are goning to say:WOW!!! Kojima you clever bastard!!!!! you tricked us once again!!!!! you devil!!!
Denial, you are in it.
Exactly. He even says in his goodbye letter "Its Kojimas decision. ANd thats fair"
Clearly he has no class...
Hissy fit? Hes more mopey and sad than anything.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Do you know what a hissy-fit even is?
Yes or no question - Did Kojima not just make up a fake development studio and walk out on stage in a fake bandage mask all just to pimp a game that would have gotten hype anyway if he just announced it as Metal Gear Solid V? What's so clever about that?
If it's all a ruse, it's just for some silly PR to keep people talking about the game.
I'm not in denial, I'm just accepting that Kojima has a history of pulling shit like this.
eot
Banned
You think being* passive aggressive in public about a decision that isn't yours to make is staying classy? It's being childish is what it is.
andregnreis
Member
Don't you guys think there's something behind this story with all Hayter's tweets talking about Snake's voice and how he loves it? And now a big statement on April 1st? I think Kojima is planning something and Hayter will be voicing Snake in some capacity.
1. He wasn't dumped. He wasn't working full time or with a contract for all MGS games.
2. It is my opinion that he was terrible post MGS1, you can call it shit or all you want, but it is not a single opinion but one that very much shared by plenty of people here.
3. Stay classy Hayter.
If they don't want you back, you say thank you for the opportunity and move on. You don't go public trying to get a mob of people to change people's minds.
A 15-year "opportunity" is more like a relationship. Neither Konami or Kojima showed any kind of grace in ending such a partnership, which leaves fans to assume that they're not as great a creative family as they're made out to be, much unlike the folks at Naughty Dog and their practices with their mocap/VA's.
At least Hayter addressed the fans and didn't just leave it all up in the air to be figured out later. That would have been shitty.
To be fair that poll he tweeted to Kojima isn't classy at all.
Takamura-San
Member
If he wanted to argue about getting the gig back, there are ways to go about it that doesn't involved asking the public "how would you feel if I don't get the job?". If you're an employer and you made your choice of letting someone go, taking into consideration public response, would you be inclined to take them back after pulling that kind of stunt. He met the production. He was told that his services would not be needed. He may have presented his case, and the decision still held. How is this twitter charade staying classy?
Snake is a composition of Kojima, shinkawa and many others. Including Hayter. Doesn't mean that he has a hold to be the VA for life. That's the creator decision. Maybe kojima didn't like how Snake was being voiced, maybe it was personal. The decision was made by the people that have a greater stake on the character.
What makes you think that whoever gets to replace him has no stake on the role? Also, since when does caring about the role makes you the perfect VA? I presume that whoever is hired should be a professional and be able to perform as directed.
immortal-joe
Member
Kojima's interview with Geoff sealed it, this ain't no ruse. He even gave the perfectly tuned PR-bullshit answer, how this is a new type of MGS and thus needs a new voice for Snake.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
I like Hayter and I would be upset if any of the OLD games had his voice replaced, however, this is going to be a new experience coupled with a new voice so Im actually looking forward to seeing what its like.
I dunno, if Kojima had an issue with Hayter's version of Snake I think he would have been let go a lot sooner than now.
I still think it's a ruse, because Kojima likes doing shit like that. If it isn't one, oh well. Then I think that stinks, because I like Hayter's work.
The Omega Man
Member
Like a said, I don't think anything can convince you that Hayter is not returning, I would love to have him back as well, but for me, Hayter's tweets, and the interview with Kojima are in a whole different game than just playing tricks and making something up just for hype and PR stunt.
-Plasma Reus-
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I think it's much simpler than most people are willing to accept.
Kojima found Kiefer Sutherland willing to play Snake. Kojima then promptly disposed of Hayter. Sutherland is the only person outside of Snake to do that Snake type of voice well, and, well, he's more famous.
I feel bad for Hayter. From all of the things I've heard/read about, Kojima seems like a really difficult guy to deal with.
Kojima found Kiefer Sutherland willing to play Snake. Kojima then promptly disposed of Hayter. Sutherland is the only person outside of Snake to do that Snake type of voice well, and, well, he's more famous.
I feel bad for Hayter. From all of the things I've heard/read about, Kojima seems like a really difficult guy to deal with.
When I play MGSV and Hayter isn't actually in the game, then I'll be convinced.
Hayter being in it or not isn't the end of the world, I just think given Kojima's track record we shouldn't discount the idea that he's up to more of his tricks.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
DID YOU RIKE IT?!?!
MAX PAYMENT
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Even though mgs1 was his best performance, I still think David hayter is one of the best, if not the best, video game voice actors around. Which honestly isn't saying much because I think they're all weak.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I don't think so. With the way MGS5 was presented, and the whole Moby Dick Studios thing... Kojima must have had an epiphany.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
No I don't rike Kojima randomly deciding to be a piece of shit after 15 years.
Alan Wake's VA was really good. Matthew Poretta, I think?