Oh god @ Joseph Cecil Smith "privacy advocate" new post. Fucking nut job.
lol Someone should make a whole tumblr for this shit, I'm sure it would spread quickly.
thank you much reverendphil, Johnny, and everyone in here who has tried to make PEACE in this projects comments sections.. remember, those who oppose this project on principle are not the ones who threatened to break into people's houses and rape the kids.. those threats were made.. huge numbers of people secretly harassed backers and the creators of this project.. I know for a fact that Susan has worked every day trying to deliver the goods to the backers... and Kenzie's games should turn out to be amazing gems.. and kids are being offered MIT education because Susan and Kenzie said, Let's share the wealth of Kickstarter's amazing support. I have watched the good intending backers who disagree with this project gradually seek higher principled ground.. and some of them even have realized wow, Susan is telling the entire truth here.. all i would ask is for the detractors to keep an open mind and give the girl time.. there's a game+++ in the works, and MIT is focused on that.. don't stress guys.. and it is almost all guys who are repeatedly posting.. very few actual females and fewer actual females who actually have small children.. Moms like Susan don't steal from their kids.. they sacrifice EVERYTHING to advance their kids. I would point to the way Susan has spent hundreds of hours this month repeatedly responding to the detractors.. she's patient, strong, principled, honest, truly smart and very sensitive.. what really happened, is a little girl went to her mom and said mom i want to make a video game.. and my brothers said i can't and the mom said , here let's put in on kickstarter.. and daughter, i love you so much, even if kickstarter will not send you to RPG camp, i mom will give you the $829 anyway, i love you...
then kickstarter came in and said, yes, we 1000 strong love Kenzie's dream too.. and a FEW MALES came in and for $1 those males have posted over 1500 comments. a lot of those comments were deleted: the comments had gotten up to 2000 did you remember that? look there are only 1672 now.. lots of comments were deleted.
this means people are using $1 donations to harass susan.. and I swear it has hurt this game being developed.. and susan has bled inside for this project.. because she loves her daughter and her boys and her family so much.
imagine please all you good people.. having someone post your address and then strangers threatening to break in and rape your kids.. that happened to susan.. all i ask is please, close ranks and disagree if you want, but protect the sanctity of kickstarter and this project and all moms and families by being so very principled.. this project deserves the chance to succeed.. and i keep reminding susan that only a handful of $1 protesters are in here fomenting.. the VAST MAJORITY of backers have remained 100% silent and 110% supportive.. and that include MIT, ADOBE and large corporations with huge resources.. silent backers.
one last salient point: EVERY SMART SUPER SMART CREATIVE GENIUS THAT ENCOUNTERED THIS PROJECT IMMEDIATELY SUPPORTED IT.. only less talented people with no great work going on came in looking for relevance and started protesting repeatedly.. anyone with important work would never have time to disturb a girls rpg camp dream so much.
other projects with 1000 backers often have about 10 comments, not 1670.. that's coming from the repeat $1 protesters repeatedly asserting there is a lack of trustability, etc for this $829 project request.. Susan is not a gamer, not a programmer, not a software developer.. she has no idea how to structure workflows to get the deliverables to you fast. but her team is doing just that.. and all for you the backers.. you kids Will benefit.. i would ask you all to help with all your heart and the most you lose is about $1.. you can still come in here and complain for years after the project loses.. but what if it wins?
peace
Oh god @ Joseph Cecil Smith "privacy advocate" new post. Fucking nut job.
lol Someone should make a whole tumblr for this shit, I'm sure it would spread quickly.
You should of included it with your post. Here it is for anyone wanting to read it.
So thanks to MIT's generosity, they don't need Kickstarter then.and kids are being offered MIT education because Susan and Kenzie said, Let's share the wealth of Kickstarter's amazing support.
You should of included it with your post. Here it is for anyone wanting to read it.
The guy must be trolling. Must be. Has to be.
Either that or he's Susan in disguise. "Few males" just sounds off to me.
I have a daughter who likes games
I wish I thought of this
I'm debating whether or not $10 is worth keeping tabs on this. On one hand it's entertaining and in the other it's just supporting this monstrosity. Blah.
I just did a dollar to do that. The amount does not really matter since you can cancel whenever you want to before the deadline. Or do you mean after it has ended?
I thought this thhe other day, but if you were gonna do this you would make your persona normal right? I know Susan is manipulative (being nice here) but dam that dude is bat shit crazy - I rather have the whole Internet hounding me and have no one one my side than have him backing my corner.Either that or he's Susan in disguise. "Few males" just sounds off to me.
I just don't have a problem with people spending their money in any way their like.Really lol? Can't say I agree with that but each to their own.
Creator Susan Wilson 10 minutes ago
@Vernano - Just to be clear, you are wrong and you are being the opposite of helpful. Yes, I pitched the Life-Case and I hired a CAD designer to make it. As I clearly said in prior posts and to reporters, it was inspired by Incipio's Stowaway case (which I still own) but which is too small and has a flaw in the design. The case only hold an ID, 2 credit cards and maybe a single $20 bill. THAT's it! I wanted something that held a car key and more. Look at the pictures and you can see it's not reselling the Incipio case.
No, it didn't have a market so it didn't succeed. That doesn't make it a scam. That makes me an entrepreneur. And like it or not, people like me are what keeps the economy in the U.S. running. Small business entrepreneurs fuel the US economy. So cut the name calling and get off of this campaign.
You are a pox and rest assured you'll be removed from this campaign. I DO NOT WANT YOUR MONEY OR ADVICE. YOU ARE UNINFORMED and ABSURD. How can I be recognized by FORTUNE and Ernst & Young for my success as an entrepreneur if I'm a scammer? If you knew anything about the business world, you'd know it doesn't work that way. It took me years to build my reputation and while I'm proud of my successes (b/c yes, I've done what many only dream of) that also involved a fair number of failures. That's part of the cost of entry to be an entrepreneur. That does not make me a scammer, or a liar or a threat to society.
AND MY NAME IS SUSAN as you've repeatedly been told! NOW PLEASE EXIT THIS CAMPAIGN!
privacy advocate 5 minutes ago
Dear Vernano, i don't think Susan's side of the phone case has been told.. she actually was not scamming anyone with that project.. they had a designer create a different case or some details that are absent from all the accounts labelling that failed project a scam.. that said i do understand your points that i it looked shady or bad or whatever term you'd call a failed project. This project was for a girls gaming dream.. the girl's the Decider in this project.. and Kickstarter supporters gave her more than she asked for... that's not a reason to demand a lot more from Susan than other project creators who have gotten a lot more money and been far less accountable than Susan has been, and i suspect you will see Susan be in the future very giving.
Also, i know she's so busy she has been advised to not spend time in here negotiating peace with those who donate $1 then post so many times.. it's not worth that.. time is very precious and MIT is asking Kenzie to come and learn with them so she can make games.. apparently in the last month, none of Susan's kids have starved, or gone without clean clothes.. their home has always been clean somewhat.. and Susan has no maids.. she's the maid. the Mom, and a few other hats... i have found her nothing except well intending and sincere.. and she's the first to say she's not a gamer or programmer.. so she didn't have any expertise in delivering what was promised for this project.. because that's her daughter's Job.. Kenzie is the decider and she's been dreaming up really cute games for you all.. and they opened the project to other kids too.
peace
That guy sounds too much like those creeps in Law and Order SVU.Oh god @ Joseph Cecil Smith "privacy advocate" new post. Fucking nut job.
lol Someone should make a whole tumblr for this shit, I'm sure it would spread quickly.
They are definitely fools there is no denying that and I don't have any empathy for them either. I can still get angry at her and her many attempts to con people though.I just don't have a problem with people spending their money in any way their like.
Would you say they are fools? The woman asked for less that 1,000 yet they keep giving in more and more, it is obviously a scam, but they give in anyway, and is not like they cannot withdrawn their contribution if they feel scammed.
If anyone is getting scammed is their own bloody fault, can't really feel bad for them, nor be angry because of it :/
My parents are into technology as users but my Mom has to hire programmers and developers sometimes for her work. She's really glad I like computers and programming because she says as a business person she feels like she's held hostage by developers.
Does Susan really think that we think that 9-year-old girls write like this?
Okaaaay a CAD designer you say?
The depth of the lid is exactly the same Susan. The design is exactly the same Susan.
Shill or troll? I'm undecided, but I know he's a strange one.
My heart bleeds for her. I changed my avatar earlier as I don't think she is getting enough positive exposure and wanted to do some good in the world. Spread the good word people.Poor Susan, the misunderstood philanthropist.
I feel like it's been incredibly easy to predict her behavior and responses three or four steps ahead at every moment.
I compared the picture she used for IndieGoGo of the phone case, and the picture of the Life Case, and it's the exact same case lol. She didn't design it, it's exactly the same! All she did was realsell it for 10x the money lol.
Creator Susan Wilson 20 minutes ago
@KS Backer, that's also what the team at MIT Game Lab (and others have offered to help with). At this point, I'm just trying to survive the actual campaign and then I'll figure out distribution (ideally DRM Free).
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Creator Susan Wilson 22 minutes ago
@KS Backer, No that hasn't been done yet. But I'm confident it will be whatever is standard procedure. I understand the DRM free preference and I'll look into the details as we get closer to the July release.
Creator Susan Wilson 29 minutes ago
@KS Backer, she's making the game in RPG Maker and my understanding is RPG maker only creates games for PCs. But again, I'm not a gamer. When her dad gets home from work, I'll ask him. I imagine the game will be available for purchase after it's done (but that assumes it's a game with demand). I know RC and I have been talking about doing some cool things with the game for backers (including signed CDs of the game in a case), but that's a work in process.
As many people have pointed out, this project is all about a 9 year old building her first RPG (and the team at MIT informed me that RPGs are actually the hardest games to make). So most people aren't expecting some huge commercial success b/c this is really about Kenzie making a game - not paying others to make it for her. That said, I'm hopeful it turns out great given the support and network she has access to now, but I have no idea where it would be available to buy at this point.
There's no way for backers to edit comments on KS, so she probably complained and KS removed the link.
I feel like Mr. Belding on Saved By the Bell. I walk into this fiasco and all I can say is, "Hey hey hey! What is going on here??"
I've been checking into this thread sporadically, so correct me if I am wrong but has this story not been picked up by any reputable web publications?
This seems like a very interesting story about the realities of kickstarter's success and the repercussions of that success, but I only ever see it being discussed here or on other message boards.
Has anybody seen this? http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1813
A spoof article, but it seems that the real Susan responded in the comments. There is a great rebuttal by the article's writer. This thing is really blowing up.
Jack says:
April 10, 2013 at 7:14 am
Just because you say theres no shred of truth to scam allegations doesnt mean the evidence magically is not. You cant refute something by saying its not true and then do nothing else. I could say, staring at the sun is bad for you, but all youd do is shout no its not and then stare at the sun and ruin your eyes.
People at uproxx.com arent real reporters either. Neither is any other gaming journalism site you cite (Penny Arcade). None of them are. Hell, I admit Play4Real is still trying to break that gaming journalism barrier into real journalism.
You claim that people are overlooking very rich men who raise millions on Kickstarter. Why not say very rich people? Dont try to pull the gender card again. Youve already used it way too many times making this Kickstarter and probably to your defense as well. People are going to hate scammers no matter their gender.
And about the very rich men making millions, that gullible cybermob are probably critics of those too if they are scammers like yourself so dont say its a gender thing or a fact that people are specifically targetting your campaign over worse and more damaging campaigns. Oh wait, you even say those men shouldnt be attacked. Oh okay, way to destory your own argument there.
This is about envy and jealousy and reminds me of elementary school kids bullying and being mean because they can get away with it. You are right, some people are going to shout obscenities and be rude, sexist, mysogynistic, and crass. But if you lump those together with legitimate complaints, then youre ignoring a problem.
I have NOTHING TO HIDE! You seem to have plenty to hide. You already started making updates backers-only and youve wanted to kick people out who only have made one dollar pledges and probably also complaining about your project on your comments page. Again, youre just ignoring the problem. Furthermore, hiding substantial updates like how this is no longer about an RPG camp, how youre getting a laptop out of this, and more.
I dont settle for the status quo. I like to explore life Im willing to put myself out there flaws and all. Youre bringing up things that are completely irrelevant to make yourself look better. Thats all youre doing.
Not because Im a millionaire Well at least we know youre a millionaire. Thats something.
I dont plan on looking for a job soon. Well, youre a millionaire.
I had the audacity to create and Kickstarter had the guts to allow and stand by their decision. If you were an honest person trying to make a project like this, no one would have a problem. So dont say the cybermob internet or whatever is going after you because you created something they dont like. Its not the project they dont like, its you and the way youve handled it.
At this point, arent you the scam artist because youre actually making money off of printing outright lies I wish I could make money off gaming journalism. Im sure a lot of people would.
in addition to just being wrong on so many levels, involves a minor Youre the one who is in contact with her every day. People should be more concerned about that over some article on the internet.
I didnt proofread this so I apologize for any mistakes.
It was in the beginning, defending Susan.
CNET's article
Kotaku's article
Past that, there has been nothing said or reported from them.
Has anybody seen this? http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1813
A spoof article, but it seems that the real Susan responded in the comments. There is a great rebuttal by the article's writer. This thing is really blowing up.
Has anybody seen this? http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1813
A spoof article, but it seems that the real Susan responded in the comments. There is a great rebuttal by the article's writer. This thing is really blowing up.
Youre the one who is in contact with her every day. People should be more concerned about that over some article on the internet.
Has anybody seen this? http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1813
A spoof article, but it seems that the real Susan responded in the comments. There is a great rebuttal by the article's writer. This thing is really blowing up.
Jim Profit says:
April 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm
This interview was fake?
Mrs. Wilson, I am completely aghast. This site, some articles about not video games forgiven, is generally filled with accurate and legitimate reporting. I am extremely alarmed that someone would fabricate this kind of thing.
Just earlier in the comments section, a hatemongering basement dweller spoke of punching your daughter. Thats how bad the internet is getting these days. Scum is everywhere. Its hard for a hard working entrepreneur to make a living.
Jack (if that is your real name), you should be ashamed for writing false information. As Mrs. Wilson pointed out, lies and libel is not protected under the Free Speech amendment. Therefore, you have commited a felony for both libel, and having not video game articles on a video games website. Not since Kotaku have I seen such a horrifying breach of what is moral.
Good luck be with you, Susan. A fool and their money are soon parted, and some of us are just there to make that happen. I hope you separate many fools from many dollars now, and in the future.
Please continue to cash in on the feminism and women-empowerment card, it pisses literally everyone off and I get to laugh at their expense.
First time I took a look at that video.Has anybody seen this? http://www.p4rgaming.com/?p=1813
A spoof article, but it seems that the real Susan responded in the comments. There is a great rebuttal by the article's writer. This thing is really blowing up.
Even the editor in this comment section shuts it down b/c the facts seem to be irrelevant to this gullible cybermob that appears to enjoy spreading lies and trying to ruin a persons life over an $829 campaign while VERY RICH men raise millions of dollars on Kickstarter without question. Its absurd.
Those rich men she's referring to aren't raising money to put someone in a class and buy them a laptop. Two things that are explicitly against the TOS.
Those rich men have clear plans for legit games, usually with videos outlining the plans for said games. They're not catching the same kind of flak, not due to being men in a patriarchy, but because they are using Kickstarter as intended.