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Analyst: Nintendo sold 55,000 Wii Us in March, 85,000 Wiis
- Thread starter ClovingWestbrook
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Well, those 'hardcore' fans didn't show up and buy N64s and GameCubes, so I'm not sure why Nintendo was supposed to keep trying to find success through their wallets.
Given the current state of console sales, they would HAVE TO move hardware if the software is expected to sell well.
Tell that to 1st-year 3DS owners. Or try justifying that imposed strategy to Vita owners.
Tallshortman
Member
I can't wait for the inevitable argument that it's going to be a system seller. It flared up during December but died down as worse Wii U noise drowned it out.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
When does NPD drop this month?
Thursday night.
shinra-bansho
Member
That not all of his prediction numbers are necessarily fairly off. Your characterization implies that he is consistently poor with his predictions. He came 17th in the 2012 predictions, which while not fantastic was also not terrible.
His predictions are neither consistently close, nor consistently poor.
What? When has he ever said anything of the sort? Please point me to any instance where he alludes to what you're implying here, that he has some secret info that will change everything, but you gotta pay. By your asinine definition, everyone who has ever done their job, ever is a "snake oil salesman."
to be fair, people were excited for lego city back when it was revealed a year ago. it's had its fair share of hype. this isn't some weird recent thing.
Zoramon089
Banned
Geez. It's an ESTIMATE. People need to realize Pachter is not a videogame analyst. He does it as a hobby. He doesn't have insider info into NPD numbers of anything like that. He simply makes these estimates like the rest of us. There's no accurate or inaccurate. It's either he guessed well or guessed poorly
-Pyromaniac-
Member
thanks, that's good then. Should be interesting.
JordanLMiller
Member
With a new name it would move 400k per month easily.
I don't know, I feel like during the Wii times I was constantly nodding my head along to their message of expanding the gaming audience. Now whatever their message is I'm just left scratching my head thinking "what?"
TheNatural
My Member!
Everyone's job is to be completely wrong in predicting things and charging for it? News to me.
DragonSworne
Banned
To be fair, it was shown alongside Pikmin 3, Batman: Different Content Edition, and Nintendoland fireworks.
Anything would look good comparatively in that lineup.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
People need to quit ripping Pachter. As of the last few months/maybe a year, he's generally been spot on. Before that? Usually dumb. But not as of late.
metalslimer
Member
Yes, that's why he put if accurate. Stop being so defensive
Ninja Scooter
Member
if it really had plenty of great games available, it would be doing better.
KingJ2002
Member
When the next PlayStation & Xbox are released it will be a hard sell for anyone to pick up a Wii U at 349.99
regardless of software these things need to happen for the system to gain momentum
+ An aggressive marketing campaign that clearly.. and I mean CLEARLY explains the system. No more fluff campaigns of random people playing it.
+ A constant stream of releases from Nintendo... including a system mover like Wii Sports.
+ A price drop to 199 / 299 bundle. It's clear people aren't motivated to buy the system at it's current price when other systems are cheaper and subsidized. Take the poison pill and start moving units
If these things don't happen... Dump the Wii U and Try again. Just say it's an HD version of the Wii and move inventory... then go back and Work on a system that can and will compete with the PlayStation & Xbox... while also work on a System that will stop the iPhone & Android from cannibalizing the handheld gaming market.
regardless of software these things need to happen for the system to gain momentum
+ An aggressive marketing campaign that clearly.. and I mean CLEARLY explains the system. No more fluff campaigns of random people playing it.
+ A constant stream of releases from Nintendo... including a system mover like Wii Sports.
+ A price drop to 199 / 299 bundle. It's clear people aren't motivated to buy the system at it's current price when other systems are cheaper and subsidized. Take the poison pill and start moving units
If these things don't happen... Dump the Wii U and Try again. Just say it's an HD version of the Wii and move inventory... then go back and Work on a system that can and will compete with the PlayStation & Xbox... while also work on a System that will stop the iPhone & Android from cannibalizing the handheld gaming market.
i completely disagree. i've seen little negativity over the console outside of GAF. even on websites like reddit, the groupthink opinion is no longer hostile and is changing to be more accepting of the console. abandoning the console would damn nintendo's console efforts forever.
Aquamarine
Member
There were six games released this NPD period.
Out of the six:
1. Two are late ports
2. One is outright shovelware
3. Two are original, but it's doubtful that they will push hardware significantly
4. And the last is another HD-ified iteration of a long-running series that flourishes on handhelds
I can't speak for anyone else but I'm simply not interested in shelling out $350-$430AUD for a system with no games. Like the VITA I'm not interested in multiplats that i can get on my PC/PS3/360/Wii.
The only thing that interests me Monster Hunter Tri, New Zelda, Bayonetta 2, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Windwaker HD and Project X. Only one of those games are out and i already have it on my Wii.
The only thing that interests me Monster Hunter Tri, New Zelda, Bayonetta 2, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Windwaker HD and Project X. Only one of those games are out and i already have it on my Wii.
LOL what? He charges for numbers predictions? You think he's some sort of fucking soothsayer? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
The amount of money they would have to spend on a rushed R&D for their next console to come out in a couple of years time would be way too much at this point. It would be considerably cheaper to try to fix the Wii U's image.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Why should we go back as far as the Gamecube? Are you just cherry picking a generation here?
Modern entries in the series, namely Mario and Mario Kart, sell gangbusters nowadays.
They still sell well as was proven by the 3DS.
So why, again, are you going back so far? Is it because it helps your argument?
Petrae
Member
I personally agree that as time marches on with next to no software and lack of education, Wii U has a slim chance to recover to any kind of respectable level of unit sales.
That being said, for Nintendo to pull the plug on Wii U after less than a year, it would be worse for the company. Those who did buy would be left out in the cold, while Nintendo's image would take a big hit overall.
Nintendo has to try to make this work. Games need to start moving from development to retail shelves. Nintendo needs to market the thing and make an effort, at least. If it can't turn Wii U around by year's end? Then we can murmur about blowing the thing up and looking ahead. Too soon at this juncture, I think.
And during Feburary, there were zero games released during that NPD period.
Sanic
Member
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Wii-U lifetime sales Over/Under N64 lifetime sales
shinra-bansho
Member
What on earth are you on.
DragonSworne
Banned
Let's just hope that Nintendo isn't delaying researching and developing their next system in the hopes that Wii U will make a turnaround.
Nintendo didn't start R&D on Wii U until 2008, which was a huge mistake as well. -_-
If LCU and MH3U are D-tier titles, what does that make The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct? One of those unpronounceable symbols, like Prince had?
For 2007-9, he was consistently near the top. I couldn't find the results for recent years.
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/donny2112/NeoGAF/2009_points.html
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/donny2112/NeoGAF/2008_points.html
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/donny2112/NeoGAF/2007_points.html
AZ Greg
Member
N64? How about Gamecube?
Zoramon089
Banned
Uhh, nothing? Nothing I said was false
ViewtifulJC
Banned
TheNatural
My Member!
He gets paid for "electronics forecasting" in many ways. I'm sure he's not doing some GameTrailers show for free along with "as part of his research coverage, he issues buy, sell, or hold ratings on publicly traded stocks, provides earnings estimates, and sets 12-month price targets."
The guy definitely makes a buck for doing this, and he's not doing anything special.
AZ Greg
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SolarPowered
Member
They did with the Wii, but they forgot to hire people who can make games after making an insane amount of money.
Ninja Scooter
Member
55,000 consoles being sold a month doesn't indicate any such turnaround. Nintendo's biggest problem isn't negativity, that is very much a hyperbolic internet thing, it's complete indifference. People don't hate or talk shit about the Wii U, they just don't care or know about it.
Oh man, this post is somewhere between not being realistic and lying altogether. "Bright future"?
i'm curious where you go that has an overwhelmingly negative opinion of the console
5m ww for 6 years? assuming there are new consoles in 2018. it's possible, i suppose. at this rate they're not hitting 5m ww by the end of the calendar year.
i really see a situation where the old managers are sacked, the new guys come in, and they have a 'the saturn is not our future' moment and vanish from the console market for an unreasonable amount of time.