Apparently so, doesn't look like it though.
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Elder Scrolls Online gameplay leaked
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Apparently so, doesn't look like it though.
CrazedProfessional
Member
A guess would be it was probably on the drawing board for 4 of those years. or passed around for years to outsourced developers.
PantherAttacks
Member
Eurogamer said:
It strikes me as crazy that you would throw out the core of Elder Scrolls - the very thing it does best. I guess someone thought it was a good risk mitigation strategy to just copy WoW, but boy were they wrong on that one.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Even if that was the low settings, it looked generic and boring.
Just cut your losses, admit it was a mistake.. and move on.
Just cut your losses, admit it was a mistake.. and move on.
Pretty much restating what I said on Rerolled, but this game is going to tank and I say this as someone likely to buy it at launch. All signs point to this being another boring ass treadmill MMO with one true path to advance. I'll quit in a month like 95 percent of the population and unfortunate layoffs will hit the studio and hurt people's career.
But man, playing it safe for easy money has never been a worse idea for MMO developers because playing it safe no longer brings any money. It's time for something completely new in the genre.
But man, playing it safe for easy money has never been a worse idea for MMO developers because playing it safe no longer brings any money. It's time for something completely new in the genre.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
cpp_is_king
Member
I don't know why people re talking about how the game looked generic and boring. What about the fact that the graphics look like they're from pre-2002?
Well it does, in terms of graphics
As in 5+ years of work on it, not graphics from 5 years ago.
D
Deleted member 10571
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Did anyone ever?
Devs still confuse MMOs to be the same formula as other genres, the general way of thinking seems to be "make it like X, just "better"". Works for offline genres most of the day, doesn't work for MMOs. Hell, most games that failed were even hyped to death, and still were dead on arrival. Eve, GW1 and 2 take different approaches (either in gameplay or in business model) and they do just fine. And sub model? Are you kidding me? Even freaking Mortal and TSW, games _designed_ for niche audiences, and LOTRO (imo mostly due to later design decisions) with its HUGE potential playerbase and audience had to go F2P in the end. I honestly have absolutely no idea why anyone would think TESO would be remotely successful in that regard. There's just no way.
And even if I would like what Wildstar is doing, I predict a TOR/Conan for them as well if they go sub model.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
For several years of development, they should have had a group of testers playing weekly builds as soon as they had a working version of the game, even if there wasn't much of a world created yet.
If they did, they might have gotten the wrong group of testers, hehe. Looks pretty generic and time-killing like most MMOs.
Might as well buy a copy of Morrowind with the expansion. Then again, every fucking person should own that already.
If they did, they might have gotten the wrong group of testers, hehe. Looks pretty generic and time-killing like most MMOs.
Might as well buy a copy of Morrowind with the expansion. Then again, every fucking person should own that already.
Didn't Oblivion and Skyrim get most of their sales from consoles and less than 1/3 of overall sales from PC? So what makes them think there's even a large audience of Elder Scrolls players on PC? And how many of those PC TES players play it on PC specifically for the modability? So exactly what market did they research for this release? Who is the target?
So it's not the Xbox player, it's not the PS3 player, it's not the PC player who mods their TES game, so...who?
So it's not the Xbox player, it's not the PS3 player, it's not the PC player who mods their TES game, so...who?
CountAntonius
Member
Give me Morrowind on the skyrim engine with and drop in drop out co op. Done.
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
Seeing this game still be developed is like watching a car drive off a cliff in ultra slow motion. A car that missed its exit like 7 years ago.
You live in some sort of delusional world of lucky charms and fairy tales. What do you expect to be different? How is he not playing it properly? There are monsters and you kill them for XP and rewards. Rinse and repeat - except with bigger and bigger looking monsters. I don't understand what you want from him, or what sort of magical gameplay you are trying to envision, but it won't happen.
The game is like every other MMO out there, except this is oddly sad and bland compared to what it could potential be. I'm not expecting Skyrim 2.0, I would just think they would innovate over SWTOR or WoW. They haven't, it's another MMO, that will go F2P (if it isn't already from the get-go) and just fall into obscurity.
The Elder Scrolls brand is huge on PC, Skyrim is the fastest selling game on Steam and has never left the top 15 best sellers since 2011 (it's #9 right now). Regardless of Skyrim's playerbase on whatever system, for this to be a success Bethesda need to capture players in the MMO market, not Skyrim's fanbase, and that exists pretty much solely on PC.
So to answer your question, they're after the MMO player.
Disheveled_Zen
Member
Not sure if this was posted as I'm too tired to go through 15 pages, but here's some footage from Pax East this year.
http://vimeo.com/62714951
http://vimeo.com/62714951
This actually looks pretty good, so whats the deal here? Maybe the beta hasn't gotten the PAX build yet?
Looks nice, if they have a trial option at release I'll at least check it out if it's like that.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Off-screens a little hard to compare, but it definitely looks a lot better here than the leak. Maybe Worst Youtube doesn't have a good computer or the beta doesn't have high graphics turned on yet.
It's not unheard of.
Problem still is that the gameplay is too far removed from Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim apparently.
Is that bad thing though? I can hardly recall people being positive about the combat in TES games.
Gorgon
Member
It's Elder Scrolls.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Speak for yourself sonny, I'm grabbing this day one - the butthurt in this thread is amazing, given that it's early beta shit.
Calm down downer police.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Somethings up with this leaked footage - it feels like first build janky, especially compared to that PAX video which is clearly a later build, and quite impressive.
Odd.
Very Odd.
LowerLevel
Member
Thank you. A few people I know said it was their game of show at this year's PAXEast. from the info I've heard and read from people close to the product, this will be a different feeling MMO. And, PLEASE people, ZeniMax Online is making the game. NOT Bethesda Studios. My guess would be (parent company) ZeniMax Media has Bethesda working on the next Fallout and I wouldn't put it past them to have Arkane Studios work on a Elder Scrolls shoot off in the vein of Redguard or New Vegas for the Fallout series.
And before somepne asks for a "link" or "source" from my comment on heard and read, here.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/
http://elderscrollsotr.mymiddleearth.com/
LowerLevel
Member
My guess would be closer to fall/winter.
Chinese mirror of the video from the OP: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTQzMDc0MDU2.html
Bringer Of Bacon
Member
You guys are dumb. I think this looks pretty cool actually. Looks like elder scrolls but in MMO form. Day one purchase. Who is with me?
I think you are an smart person who has an opinion that I don't agree with.
I think it looks like a generic post-wow MMO with a Skyrim UI mod slapped on
andregnreis
Member
Game actually looks good in the PX East video. My main concern isnt actually the graphics... I do think that in the final version its going to be a beautiful looking game. I'm more concerned about gameplay and quests. And didnt like to hear that there arent 10 man raids... one of the many reasons I didnt like Guild Wars 2 endgame.
TheCongressman1
Member
I don't mind the style of the game, I just don't like the gameplay at all. It does look a lot more janky than Skyrim. I pretty much lost all interest in this.
The Elder Scrolls Online - Journey to Coldharbour Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhH8S7oMfVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhH8S7oMfVA
Jawmuncher
Member
they sure love hiding that gameplay....
Complete disappointment. I like the idea of a megaserver though. +1 for that... I guess.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Can you blame them?
Jawmuncher
Member
Not really, guess it shows that even they aren't impressed by it.
CountAntonius
Member
Was this planned as having a WoW like combat engine that was scrapped and forced into action style combat because of the reveal backlash?
Combat seems so bad.
Combat seems so bad.
Oh boy, so everyone is the hero that will save the world. But first, kill 500 rats and do a fetch quest that will take you to every nook and cranny of the world. Also still no gameplay, mainly because
No major backlash yet because all the gameplay footage we got is from a closed test and thus everyone will believe it will be better on release, etc.
it's WoW's and not something decent.
No major backlash yet because all the gameplay footage we got is from a closed test and thus everyone will believe it will be better on release, etc.
This game has action combat though. The recent footage looks decent.
Giriath_89
Member
I'm not at all surprised the combat is lackluster. When I first heard about TES Online I knew it wouldn't appeal to me, unless they reworked their entire gameplay formula, which of course they wouldn't do.
Take away those features and Elder Scrolls would be as generic as you could get... the only thing left special that it would have is being a mainly FPS sword combat experience... and the MMO doesn't even have that going for it either.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Why cant we get unique MMORPG? The only ones that are not trying to mimic WoW are EVE and Runescape.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I'm gonna twerk it. That was an awesome video.
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
Haha, what is this supposed to be? A PS2 game? Looks pretty bad for such a big company. Even Sui Genesis, an indie game made by a few people, has 100 times better animations that this excuse of a game. This ain't 2005 anymore.
If my opinions are too strong, just tell me to tone it down a bit. I had to tone this down a lot already.
Giriath_89
Member
I'd like to see an MMORPG with Souls-esque melee-oriented, heavy and hypersensitive combat. With gear and spells customization rather than classes, that take a lot of time to acquire, meet the stat requirements to wield and finally upgrade.
You build your own class, and with a lot of time and dedication, you can swap between them (or make hybrid builds) on one character by switching equipment and spells.
Go for light armor, a knife, a thrusting weapon and a parrying shield to move fast (or sacrifice a weapon, the shield or some stats for a mobility boost spell to be faster than anyone) and sneak in critical damage where it really hurts.
Or go for heavy armor, a greatshield and an ultra greatsword to be able to block and get hit without losing your footing against any but the heaviest of attacks, and survive even them, and be capable of dishing out your own heavy attacks. Or sacrifice some of it to get a ranged weapon to shoot any fleeing fools in the back, or perhaps a regeneration spell to heal what little damage manages to get past your great defence.
The more I think about the possibilities, the more hopeful I am we will see such a game.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
The first guys voice sounds amazing.
The biggest problems with MMO combat is that you're dealing with extreme latency all the time. It is difficult to create something that feels responsive when you're always dealing with around 100ms of latency. Latency can also be extremely volatile with huge spikes.
Its just easier to look at existing MMOs then work on a different solution to that problem. Willing to bet a lot of publishers won't fund projects that "maybe" don't feel shitty when being played. It totally sucks, and is a good reason to not play all but the top one or two MMOs on the market.
Its just easier to look at existing MMOs then work on a different solution to that problem. Willing to bet a lot of publishers won't fund projects that "maybe" don't feel shitty when being played. It totally sucks, and is a good reason to not play all but the top one or two MMOs on the market.